Now I have gotten proof in form of a video. There isnt a good quality but you can clearly see that the object is moving. We didnt have a stand for the camera so the picture is a little unstable but not that mutch.


I have posted the video file here:

www.angelfire.com/dragon/alieninvestigator/index.html

unfortunently I have a little trubble whith that site at the moment but It will son bee fixed! (I mean it)

That page does not exist, according to Angelfire. Keep at it, because I'm interested to see your video. Thanks for making one for us!

Sorry I didn´t write down the entire address so that might have been the problem. I have now fixed that but as I said the page doesn´t really work but I will soon fix that!!!!!!

page STILL unavailable

QUOTE (albaqwerty @ May 2 2003, 07:11 PM)

page STILL unavailable

Do you have a pop-upp stopper (I dont know what it is rely called)? The page is posted in angelfire which is "a pop-upp center" that might bee the problem you are suffering from!


(kimm wrote this in my user (we are at my place))

actually Kimm, your spelling is off so bad that the link doesn't work. you spelled index wrong, and document wrong. God only knows what you really named that page, but i think that's why the link is broken.

You should be able to provide us with a direct link to the video/pics. There is no need to give us the Hypertext document, just the link to the video itself.

Space Moose: I'm actualy working on that right now. when that works the wideo schould be here: www.angelfire.com/dragon/alieninvestigator/idex.htm
(I realy mean idex not index!)

DSchwartz: I havent wrote "document" anywhere and when did I spell "index" wrong????? and why should the link be broken becos I spelled badly???????

Just copy the damn (excuse the language) thing and paste it in the address square. then it´ll work. At least, it worked for me when I did that.


----Edit-----
Seen it, believe in it, and if you ever stop complaining about what he writes, then you should see it too.

Now the link works (you have to download the file but still it works (you nead winZIP)

OK, I'm downloading it now. I have to say, though, that as it's an .rar file, it may not open for everyone with Winzip. My copy of winzip certainly doesn't open it, but I have an rar opener so it's cool.

Well I do but it's on my other computer.. I have put the thing on CD and sometime today I'll try to get down to the old warhorse.

Lots of problems.. isn't that always the way?

Here is for those who like direct links:

http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/alieninves...or/IMG00001.rar

A capture is attached for those who don't feel like downloading.

Hi Space Moose, Hope you can enlighten me on this mate...What the Hell Is this ?
It looks to me like a stick tied to a string dangling in front of a vase and then all of the sudden...there it goes, the stick jiggled

Yeah, I'm not sure what that is proof of either.

Before the previous thred was locked up, the discussion was on making air move, so perhaps that is what we are being told we are looking at - a stick on a thread that is under the influcence of wind. Kimm or Jera would be best to clear up what it really is.

Based on what we see though, I'm certian anyone with a video camera, a string and a stick could make a video quite similar to what we see with very little difficulty.

If grainy video footage is all that we nees as a proof however, here is lock-solid, matter-of-fact, no-debate-necessary evidence that I personally own the Millenium Falcon and fly it around at my leisure:


Falcon.avi


For what it is worth, I did make that a number of years ago. It took me about 30 minutes to get those 6 seconds right (or as close as I got, the ship still shimmies from side to side on the downswoop) but I think it was worth it.

Anyone care to guess how? It combines 2 different elements - very tricky!

Very nice, Space Moose! Man that's awesome that you got the Millenium Falcon. There must be millions of people that wanted that bird and you're the lucky guy. Can I get a ride in it some time? I wanna use one of the turret guns on some tie-fighters too.

Now about how you did it.. I don't know, but from the look of it, the camera was speeding forward at a fair clip. You must have really had the Falcon flying backwards or something so the dude could film you at that speed. Likely that is the forward camera on a doomed tie fighter, and you intercepted its last few seconds of broadcast before you took him out. If so, beauty tactical flight control there.

About the shimmy; you need to get the main strut-varience servomotor looked at..

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Note: in case it wasn't obvious, I *am* making fun of my own credulity here.. Good animations SM.

that was proof? of what? inferior camera skills?

gah!

All i get is a blurry screen. Does anyone else have this problem and how do i fix it.


I want to see what all the fuss is about...

actually, that is the proof

i mean i dont see any picture at all. The caption that space moose posted up, i cant see.

Nice on Space moose , you and my X - brother inlaw would get on a real treat . I used to have to sit through hours of storm trooper attack video's , not to mention the one where the lawns meraculusy (now look who's spelling's shot) mowed them selves .

I must tell you Space Moose that that thing that moved (that actualy was a match whiyh a nedle run trew it) was inside a jar. I used a training technique that I foud on the internet (whith a few shanges) I dont remember the address but I have got it in a word document here it is:

HOW TO BUILD YOUR TELEKINETIC SKILLS
By Rick Tobin - © 2002
Anyone can learn to move objects with their mind. This exercise will help you increase your telekinetic skills.
MATERIALS YOU WILL NEED

… A glass quart jar with a metal lid
… Thin black sewing thread
… Glue
… A wooden match
… A small sewing needle
… Modeling clay
INSTRUCTIONS FOR MAKING THE JAR
1. Clean the jar and let it dry.
2. Cut the burnable tip off of the wooden match (be careful not to cut near the tip)
3. Put the wooden match on a block of modeling clay
4. Push the small needle through the middle of the match. Do this slowly, with a twisting motion. If the needle is too big, it will break the match. You may also put matches in water and microwave them for 2 minutes, to soften them before putting a needle through them.
5. Push the needle half way through the match.
6. Clean the clay off the needle and the match.
7. Measure and cut a piece of thread long enough to reach from the lid to the middle of the bottle.
8. Glue one end of the thread to the middle of the inside of the lid.
9. Glue one end of the thread to the top of the middle of the match, just above where the needle goes through.
10. Let the glue dry.
11. Put the needle, match, and thread in the jar and screw the lid back on.
The jar should look like the picture above.
HOW TO USE THE JAR
1. Put the jar on a table.
2. Stand or sit nearby so you are not touching the table.
3. Hold your hands, palms inward, about three inches away from the outside of the jar. Keep hour hands level with the needle.
4. Breathe deeply and focus your attention on the needle.
5. Move your hands a little, back and forth, imagining lines of energy moving from them to the tip of the needle. Direct the needle to move.
NOTE: Practice this no more than 20 minutes a day. If you get a headache, stop the exercise. The headaches, usually even with the top of the ears, will go away. Results will take from six-weeks to six months. Best results occurred at night before sleeping.


there are supose to be a pic there to but I dont know how to get it there.
you can probably see that I have not writen that (on the spelling among other things) I'l see if I can get you a picture of that jar late.

I can't even get the video file to extract, I'm using winRAR and it just gives me an 'unknown method in IMG00001.AVI' error and does nothing. I might be using an older version of winRAR however, I'll download the latest version when I get a chance and see if it works with that.

In any case, is it necessary to archive it into a RAR file ? The .AVI seems to be almost the same size as the .RAR file anyway, so it's not making the download any smaller. WinZip would probably be a better choice.

I'l see if I can make an extra download thingi where you can download it in winZIP format

Now you can download it in winZIP to if you click at the text under the text under the picture (the big text)

Ah thanks that's it I've got it to work now.

QUOTE (Jera @ May 3 2003, 07:26 PM)

Just copy the damn (excuse the language) thing and paste it in the address square. then it´ll work. At least, it worked for me when I did that.

Uh, sorry about that post. I know that Angelfire can be a little wierd, and I was tierd, so I didn´t really think about what I wrote.






Still, I believe in the video......

maybe it's the homer simpson in me,,,but proof......proof of what...someone tell me,,please

Sory Kimm but this video doesn't cut it with me at all. Why didn't you pan out a bit so we can at least see that you're not controlling the movement of the match with the string/thread.

There are other features of this footage that I would like to ask you about but I'm not inclined to bother to be honest.

Yeah... even after being told what we are seeing, it does not take a lot of imagination to figure out how to fake this with ease. Bumping the table or tapping the lid of the jar are two ways jut off the top of my head that would have the same effect on the apparatus.

HA HA! Dangly parts. (10 points to whomever knows what that is all about)

Perhaps later on I will put something together that looks the same as yours, I don't think it would be hard to do.

Like I said before, if you are looking for credibility, find yourself a reputable third party to pick up the story. The vast majority of people here would think it was awful neat if you could do this sort of thing, but there is no hard evidence that you can.

Actually, all that would be required is a small magnet of some sort, hense the need for the needle. But yes, the footage is useless.

I think just about anything you do on camera can be faked, so that just leaves your word(and that of your friend) that you can do these "things" and that doesn't cut it with me.Unless someone can come up with something that Kimm can do that we'll all take to be fair dinkum, it will be just another "unsolved post".

It's more or less impossible to conclude anything from that footage, it would be so easy to fake that there's no way anyone will accept it as genuine proof of telekinesis.

I'm afraid this doesn't do much to help your case, Kimm. A reputable third party is really what you need to help you further. Most people will need to hear it from an official group who have the experience and the means with which to investigate and recognise abilities such as that which you are describing.

A few posts and a grainy video will never be enough to convince anyone.

Which is a shame really, because it would be really nice if one day someone would come along one day, that could do feats such telekenesis.

I must tell you that just a while ago you sayd that a video would probably make you change you mind now your telling me that it aint enuf! I will try to find a third party (actualy Jera is tho only one that knows about this but I will show some one that I can move objects whith my mind.) ctualy there is one thing that we might do here in the forum. Acording to a ESP test that I tock I have an unusauly strong power of precognition (to see into the future). If you send me questions of what you are going to do later that day like this:

what am I going to eat today?:
A. hamburgers
B. Pizza
C. sausuges
D. salad

then I'l try to see into the future and see what you will eat. Its often so that psychic powers are conected so if I can see what you ate for example that might show you that I actualy have psychic powers. Alto sometimes I might not have time to see if I have goten any questions befure you did that thing you where going to do so that I can t see into the future and see what you did! I must also tell you that I tock this test on the internet so it might not be suth a good test (you newer know when it is on the internet!)

OK then lets test it:


What am I going to pick up from the shop tomorow?


A: Magazine

B: Book

C: Cigerettes

D: Card

That's all thanks for listening!

Kimm was on the forum and this thread for a good 1/2 hour after I posted above, no reply.

I'll Answer!

Hmmm, Althalus.... You will buy a magazine at the shop... Hmmm. yes, or a book... a book with a soft cover.... yes, reading material with a soft cover, like a paperback book... yes...

It has a card in the softback reading material, yes... a card with writing on it... hmmm... the writing on the card says... hmmm... "Smoke Marlboro!"



Did I get it right?

you got the book with the soft cover right. and it most likely will have a peice of card in it.


Right, Kimm's test will now be name the book that I am getting tomorow, if he is psychic he will get it right, or at least partially right.

Actually I like the Idea of a thread like that one , but it was quite easy to guess you were going to get a book . You and emmy read more books than anyone I know

MAGIKMAN charges schadeaux with a sharp, pointy stick.

QUOTE (Kimm @ May 5 2003, 04:16 PM)

Acording to a ESP test that I tock I have an unusauly strong power of precognition (to see into the future).

Hey, that's terrific. Can you tell me who will win the Kentucky Derby? Oh wait, nevermind.

schadeaux makes wind blow at the sharp pointy stick!





oops...

Magikman executes an incredible 6 foot vertical leap to escape the odorous assault, landing not too delicately amongst a gaggle of Swedish cheerleaders, leading them to believe they were being abducted by a slightly disheveled, sex crazed Martian!!! ( whose found himself suddenly imbued with several pointy objects )

I don't know about any of you, but I find that a majority of the people outside the United States don't say the word "ain't".


I think this is some kind of hoax its really easy to spell incorrectly and try to make those that don't know you think that you are someone else. Just look at some of his(I use the term lightly simply cause I don't really know if he is a woman in hiding or not) posts, they are so grossly mispelled that they are trying to appear like someone else. Then out of no where that one post that was almost entirely correct spelling wise.

I don't think I'll be believing anything they say unless there is absolute proof that isn't blurred or misidentified as being what it is.

if it was someone else, one of the moderators would be able to know - they can see the ip of everyone who post here

Thank you Bloated corpse that's what I was trying to say in the last thread . There was no continuity in the spelling mistakes , it must be very hard to keep up the kind of spelling Jera did in the original post of that last thread.

BC, Kismit, Dowdy and to all those who have expressed the idea that Kimm and Jera are the same person... well they do have seperate Ip's but that does not that there are two seperate people...I did Im Jera about her spelling as it was perfect in one of the reply's here and in her Im's to me.. I have to admit that she agreed with me that the original thread's locking.

<sigh> All of you know what I locked the first thread it was getting nowhere with no proof.... I advised Kimm after so many Im's to me pleading to have it reopened that if he had the proof to open a new thread and put it on preferably within a few weeks or I'd delete as another hoax...<I'm so cruel!?>
Now the so called proof is provided , I'm still very sceptical about Kimm and his so called powers. I have seen with my own eyes a lot of things but I have no proof other than my own experiences and while I am a witch I would not like to claim that every single spell/ ritual I work on will actually work, that I cannot guarentee...
So really Jera and Kimm, you've had your fun but I think it is time to drop the subject while people are still prepared to see it as a joke/hoax. Unless you get REPUTABLE third party confirmation(this does not mean any other family or friends!) we will still remain sceptical....
MM & schadeaux that was soo funny I really enjoyed that.

Hey Al the book you are going to get.. it's not the new Robert Jorden one is it?

I don't know about AL but I just bought Robert Jordans new book, and i can't wait to read it.


The Wheel Of Time series rocks!!!

Neenron,

And it shall come to pass, in the days when the Dark Hunt rides, when the right hand falters and the left hand strays, that mankind shall come to the Crossroads of Twilight and all that is, all that was, and all that will be shall balance on the point of a sword, while the winds of the Shadow grow.

- From The Prophesies of the Dragon translation believed done by Jain Charin, known as Jain Farstrider, shortly before his disappearance.


I want to read book 11 NOW not in 2 years when it will be out.