Dre_T_Hunter
Feb 18 2005, 08:10 PM
Hey anyone ever heard of the 7 sins...
...and i mean the legends
D. T. Hunter faces...
...the seven Sins!!
Byuu94
Feb 18 2005, 08:18 PM
QUOTE
Hey anyone ever heard of the 7 sins...
...and i mean the legends
I've heard of the seven deadly sins. If you don't mean that, then I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, could you give a little more information?
LordBailey
Feb 18 2005, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(Byuu94 @ Feb 18 2005, 04:18 PM)
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Hey anyone ever heard of the 7 sins...
...and i mean the legends
I've heard of the seven deadly sins. If you don't mean that, then I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, could you give a little more information?
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I think that's what he/she meant...
Hoagy
Feb 18 2005, 09:14 PM
wasn't it sleepy, dopey, doc...
oh, wait a second, that's not right...
zandore
Feb 18 2005, 09:35 PM
The seven sins from the Christian Bible?
Dog Demon
Feb 18 2005, 10:00 PM
Y'mean envy, greed, gluttony, sloth, lust, wrath, and pride? Or somthing completely different?
Dre_T_Hunter
Feb 19 2005, 12:39 PM
Yes, but I mean the legends of the physical form sins...
Dre has to explain...
...so his comprandes understand
aquatus1
Feb 19 2005, 01:17 PM
To the best of my knowledge, the physical forms of the sins have only appeared in that one movie, 13 Ghosts. I can't think of any other mentions of physical manifestations of the deadly sins, but I will admit that, while I have read a great many different mythologies and stories, I've never actively looked for anything of the sort.
Dog Demon
Feb 19 2005, 02:03 PM
In the anime "Fullmetal Alchemist", the villans are the embodiments of the 7 deadly sins. Not what you're looking for, but still cool.
et's daddy
Feb 19 2005, 02:42 PM
i think i may be gluttony
i eat alot
zandore
Feb 19 2005, 03:24 PM
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Feb 19 2005, 08:17 AM)
To the best of my knowledge, the physical forms of the sins have only appeared in that one movie, 13 Ghosts. I can't think of any other mentions of physical manifestations of the deadly sins, but I will admit that, while I have read a great many different mythologies and stories, I've never actively looked for anything of the sort.
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Good movie!

A must see for those that have not watched it yet.
Monkyburd
Feb 19 2005, 04:03 PM

Personally I'm a fan of the four horsemen. They would so kick the crap out of the seven deadly sins.
Jesus_Freak
Feb 19 2005, 04:31 PM
never heard of the physical manifestations of the sins, but i've heard of the sins themselves.
zandore
Feb 19 2005, 04:55 PM
I can not remember any reference to physical manifestations of them either. I will ask a Pastor friend of mine if he knows anything.
GutterSnipe
Feb 19 2005, 08:57 PM
in FMA the replaced Anger with Wrath...
KevinM
Feb 22 2005, 11:19 PM
PHysical no but some midevil demonology teaches there are each of the deadly sins has a devil attached to it. I don't recall the entire list although Lucifer is the devil of pride and Mammon is the devil of Greed.
Dezmond
Feb 23 2005, 10:01 AM
You had that magnum ice creams with all sins. That were really tasty ones....
K13Greenfaery
Feb 23 2005, 10:23 AM
Uh weren't there actually more sins but the pope gregory(I think) shortend them down to seven???
DarkAnubis
Mar 1 2005, 11:28 PM
KevinM is correct. I'm not completely sure what you mean by the physical forms, but each of the seven deadly sins has a demon attached to it, in past research i found some of the stories regarding them, i'll try to find them again. The list, though, reads as follows:
Sin- Corresponding demon
Wrath- Satan
Pride- Lucifer
Envy- Leviathan
Avarice (greed)- Mammon
Lechery (lust)- Asmodeon
Gluttony- Beelzebub
Sloth- Belphagor
eschatologist
Mar 1 2005, 11:33 PM
The sins were never in the actual Bible, but created by St Thomas Aquinas for some reason which I can't remember, but they are gluttony, avarice, pride, lust, wrath, sloth and envy - see the film Se7en, one of the best movies ever made
DarkAnubis
Mar 1 2005, 11:37 PM
Dog Demon
Mar 2 2005, 01:20 AM
QUOTE(GutterSnipe @ Feb 19 2005, 03:57 PM)
in FMA the replaced Anger with Wrath...
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Yeah, that's why I say Wrath instead of Anger. Sounds slightly more poetic too.
... And do you mean manga Wrath or anime Wrath? 'Cause I like anime Wrath better.
sultanmuratova
Mar 2 2005, 01:49 PM
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Wrath- Satan
Pride- Lucifer
Envy- Leviathan
Avarice (greed)- Mammon
Lechery (lust)- Asmodeon
Gluttony- Beelzebub
Sloth- Belphagor
i recognize 4 of these names as aliases of the devil, so you sure its not just corresponding to one demon, the devil himself?
sultanmuratova
Mar 2 2005, 01:50 PM
wait a minute wasnt the leviathan a creature from the sea?
Basil McNasil
Mar 2 2005, 06:42 PM
The Seven Genii who rule creation in this corner of the universe placed seven virtues within the soul of man. These Seven Genii are related with the seven planets of alchemy:
Gabriel: Moon; Altruism
Raphael: Mercury; Action
Uriel: Venus; Chastity
Michael: Sun; Humility
Samael: Mars; Love
Zachariel: Jupiter; Happiness for other's well being
Orifiel: Saturn; Temperance
These seven virtues became inverted when we "fell from Eden". When humanity developed the ego, these seven virtues flipped to seven sins:
Greed
Sloth
Lust
Pride
Wrath
Envy
Gluttony
That is what we all have inside. We are lacking the true spiritual values that the Archangels bestowed upon humanity.
DarkAnubis
Mar 2 2005, 10:01 PM
[quote=sultanmuratova,Mar 2 2005, 01:49 PM]
[QUOTE]
Wrath- Satan
Pride- Lucifer
Envy- Leviathan
Avarice (greed)- Mammon
Lechery (lust)- Asmodeon
Gluttony- Beelzebub
Sloth- Belphagor
i recognize 4 of these names as aliases of the devil, so you sure its not just corresponding to one demon, the devil himself?
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A lot of them could be looked upon that way, but many higher demons are often referred to as devils. Satan, leviathan, and beelzebub are 3 completely separate ones and supposedly led the rebellion in heaven. Lucifer is commonly used as the name of the devil but i believe there was a problem in translation or something and they were two different beings, lucifer being based on a roman king. The remaining three i have little information on, so i don't know what to tell ya, sorry
AlisClan
Mar 2 2005, 10:14 PM
DogDemon, Avatar ROCKS..
fadinginnocence
Mar 4 2005, 05:03 PM
What about the Movie SEVEN guys its completly about the seven deadly sins really good too
KevinM
Mar 4 2005, 08:40 PM
Ok folks some demonology 101.
First for the person who listed seven angels(7 archangels to be precise I believe) Sammael is not generally seen as an angel. In Judaic lore(see Book of Enoch for example) Samael is the chief of the fallen angels. A being analogous to the Christian Satan.
In terms of the seven devils associated with the seven deadly sins. First some clarification of meaning. A demon(word originates from Greek Daemon which is either: an intermediary god, a guardian spirit either good or evil, or an evil being at war with the gods depending on which philosopher you ask) is a fallen guardian angel(the lowest rank of angel), they're the military equvialent of a grunt. Devils(from the Greek Diabolos meaning The Worst) are fallen archangels or higher and in military terms are your captains and generals. A lot of confusion exists over the names of the highest ranking devils and in point of fact several of them regularly get confused with Lucifer himself(Beezlebub for example). Theres also some debate over whether Satan is another name for Lucifer or a second in command.
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