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jpatt
How was it identifying itself as your grandmother "terrible"? That IS what most people use them for (although that was NOT their original marketing).

Within the group I was in, we encountered reincarnated friends, nazis, Viking warriors, WWII brothers, knights, valley girl librarians, ravens and a number of other wacky things, including some "bad spirits" that really acted very uncool.

But again, I agree, the board is NOT for everyone.
Carla
QUOTE(EDW74 @ Jan 23 2006, 03:22 AM) [snapback]1032514[/snapback]

Cheapskates!


Yup no cheap ghosts turned up anyway happy.gif
EDW74
So I was wondering, If I buy a really expensive board,
Will I get better, or what I'd consider better quality Spirits?
Maybe Marilyn Monroe, Ava Gardner(Is she even dead?)
Owen Hart, Michael Hegstrand, you know people I'd rather talk to.
Instead of always gettin Fred Smith who used to work down at the thrifty mart on the corner when it opened in 1938.
Salem
QUOTE(DoubtingThomas @ Feb 25 2005, 09:26 PM) [snapback]501836[/snapback]

Why on earth would you want a ouija board? huh.gif



Why do you care. Why would you want some of the unnessacery things you have. angry.gif
Purplos
My experience with Ouija boards includes one lazy afternoon with myself and two friends giggling and saying "You moved it!" "No, you moved it!"

However, since I believe in spirits, etc, and that they can contact you (whether through ouija boards or other means), I just thought I'd add this:

Asking "Hey, any spirits out there want to talk to me?" with a ouija board is tantamount to walking into a club and saying "Any guys want to go home with me?" You never know what you are going to get.
dani10
the last time I played with a ouija board was 2 halloweens ago, at night, in the basement of a frat house, and with the only light coming from a red Exit sign. so it did look spooky, it was the perfect time(halloween night), perfect place, and it was only me and my friend. but nothing happened. seems like it only works when I do it myself :-/
Carla
QUOTE(EDW74 @ Jan 23 2006, 11:11 AM) [snapback]1032841[/snapback]

So I was wondering, If I buy a really expensive board,
Will I get better, or what I'd consider better quality Spirits?
Maybe Marilyn Monroe, Ava Gardner(Is she even dead?)
Owen Hart, Michael Hegstrand, you know people I'd rather talk to.
Instead of always gettin Fred Smith who used to work down at the thrifty mart on the corner when it opened in 1938.



I don’t think so, the spirits who talk through a Ouija board are usually low energy entities. The board attracts the low energy entities as well as higher . That’s how there are so many bad stories which are the consequence of the board. I think it all depends on the location. If you was in Marilyn Monroe house then maybe you would have a chance of contacting her ghost.
jpatt
I think ED is having a bit of fun. ED - you know Marilyn's still alive!

I would like to see an Owen Hart communication though - "DAMMIT VINCE!" over and over, or maybe he'd start in on the "I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS THE BLUE BLAZER" heh. Though being a wrestler, it would probably be more like "I TELL YOU I HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT PEOPLE NOT BELIEVING IN SPIRITS WELL BROTHER I GOT AN EARFUL FOR YOU..." and they could even air it on a WWE segment!

I think a perfect ouija board would be an air hockey table, with the puckette gliding on a cushion of air - heck, it might move all by itself and not even need any fingers on it!
insane
Hey people, I am located in Mumbai, India. Can anyone tell me where in Mumbai will I get them? Anyone in the board from Mumbai can be helpful. original.gif
jpatt
Click my sig and if you have access to a printer and the other materials, you can print out your own and try it out.
Manda
hey guys/gals I'm new here and its been a year since I lost my grandfather who I loved dearly to a bad, very bad, cancer. it seems like its taking everyone's lives these days. Since he's gone things move, my things seem to get misplaced quite often and I find them in places where I hadn't gone or been in the house...I feel like he's around, I look over my shoulder a lot, I run on the treadmill and when I do my treadmill is so when I run my back is towards the door...its been so uncomfortable and scary for me to do it I just turned it around so I can see the door. I have had a lot of dreams with death as well, weather it is a loved one dying, or me dying. I think maybe its because I was always with him, especially when he died and everyone in the room with me was screaming and going crazy it was just a scary point in my life I try to put behind me and never want to think about. geez I sound like a true nut case. oh and my insomnia has gotten far worse, I never sleep anymore and when I do I wake up at 3am and usually because I had a death dream again. well I kind of want to use a ouija board, I know it opens up dark portals, I'm very spiritual and yet also very religious. my family is totally against it and today I was talking with my boyfriend's mother and her sisters used it when she was younger and they asked it the first time they ever touched it all kinds of questons. there dad walked in and said, "oh thats horse **** okay let me try. when am I going to die?" the pointer moved and spelled out February 2. That year he had a heart attack...guess what day? February 2. I'm freaked out right now, and I miss my grandpa so much I want him to tell me why I keep dreaming of the day he died...and all the other horrible dreams. Should I keep this board away or try to end the nightmares and hearth ache I feel?

-Amanda
David_Cubero
I have writtien about the serious dangers of Ouija Boards on this Forum numerous times over the years that I have been a member,,,and I'll say it again:

DON'T MESS AROUND WITH OUIJA BOARDS!!!!!!!

It doesn't matter wheather you buy it from Wal-Mart and it's made by Parker Bros. or wheather you get it from "Demons-R-Us" and it's made by "Satanic Enterprises Inc.," Ouija Boards are not toys or games! They are very serious tools most often used in dark socery and they open portals to evil entites and demons!

If you toy with one of these things, you're absolutely inviting devils to come into your life and oppress you and make your life miserable!!! You could even find yourself possessed by a demon!

I am a man with experience.

I want every reader to pay very close attention to what I am about to share!!!

I was young and curious and I thought that it would be cool to I play with a Ouija Board. Almost immediately I began to endure a hell on earth! Within weeks my Father died suddenly, followed by my Mother, my Last Surviving Grandmother, My Wife and Two of our Children, they all died within a four year time period. At the same time, I fell extremely ill and I was eventually diagnosed with Lupus which put me into Intensive Care where my fever rose so high that I had a seizure and went into Cardio-Pulmonary Arrest. (A very alert nursing staff brought me back.) Later my Bladder Function ceased, I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis, High Blood Preasure, and a long list of other illnesses. I couldn't work for over a year and I had to sell my house before the bank foreclosed on it. I was so weak that I even had to use a wheelchair during the worst months of my illness.

It finally occurred to me that perhaps playing with that Ouija Board had been the cause of all of my bad fortune, so I talked to my Rabbi who said that I had caused myself to become oppressed by Demons. It took six Rabbis and a Minion. (in the Jewish faith this is ten or more Jewish men who join togeather in prayer,) several weeks of prayer sessions to get my life and health back on track and to release me from the grips of the demon(s).

Through my faith in G-d I have reclaimed my life! I can and do work now,,,in fact I'm finally living my dream as a professional Hollywood film and television actor, I have bought a new house, my health is relatively good and I am thankful! No one can bring back my loved ones, but at least I am at peace with their deaths.

I'm not suggesting that everyone who uses a Ouija Board will suffer tragedy to this extent, but I am warning you that it CAN happen!!!!!

It's like the message about the venomous snakes and drugs,,,if you play with a poisonous snake, don't be surprised when it bites you!!!


TAKE HEED!!!!!
Sweetsalem82103
I got one from toys r us. You usually can't get them from wal mart or anything anymore. I lost my old one, so I had to go to barnes and noble and get a "psychic circle" which is basically the same thing.

I think alot of what people say against ouija boards is over dramatic. I've never had anything bad to me, and as long as you know what you're doing, nothing bad will happen. I used to play with them all the time by myself (GASP!) when I was little and lo and behold, I've never been possessed and nothing even remotely negative ever happened to me. I always learned that you have to go into those types of things thinking positively, because negativity will only attract more negativity. Call me foolish, call me ignorant, whatever, but I think the negative aspect of these things are over exaggerated. I've been working with them for over a decade, as have many people that I know, and I've never had one negative experience. I can sit here and preach "using it correctly" and all that, but if you really don't like them, then you wouldn't listen to me anyways.

Sure, some people come in contact with bad spirits. . .What about coming in contact with bad people. . .does that mean you aren't gonna walk out your door? As long as you know when enough is enough, and how to safegaurd yourself, I see no problem with Ouija boards. And, like Faeden said, there have been similar things used throughout history to contact the dead. . .and many of them were used in a "game-like" fashion.
Sweetsalem82103
"It doesn't matter wheather you buy it from Wal-Mart and it's made by Parker Bros. or wheather you get it from "Demons-R-Us" and it's made by "Satanic Enterprises Inc.," Ouija Boards are not toys or games! They are very serious tools most often used in dark socery and they open portals to evil entites and demons!

If you toy with one of these things, you're absolutely inviting devils to come into your life and oppress you and make your life miserable!!! You could even find yourself possessed by a demon!"



I really resent the statement that they are often used in dark sorcery. I'm pagan, and we often use tools such as the ouija or tarot cards to gain insight on certain things. Some will even argue that it's, in fact, not a spirit at all giving you the answers, but instead it's your subconscious. If you have dark thoughts, especially buried ones, then you will likely have a negative experience with a ouija board. Most often, those that have violent experiences with them have something in their past that they have not dealt with and that is seriously disturbing their psyche, whether they are aware of it or not. If you have a negative experience, the first thing you need to do is stop using the board and think about WHY you had that experience, don't blame it on a demon. Usually the only demons you deal with are those that are inside you. (and no, I don't mean that literally, I mean the demons inside you, whether that be the death of a loved one that has not been coped with; maybe you're an alcoholic or a drug addict; or maybe it's something deeper than any of those)

If you had all the experiences that you had, I'd say that your subconcious was trying to tell you something. The mind is a powerful tool. .it can make you sick, make you bleed. . .pretty much make anything possible happen to you.

By the way. . .I lost my father, my best friend, and my home in the matter of a couple months. . .I don't blame any demon or "game" for that. . .Fate can be cruel. People don't just die because you played with a ouija board. People die when there time is up, even if it seems premature. Death is it's own entity, not something that can be contacted through a ouija board and not something that can be brought forth by one. Nothing controls death, not demons and not priests. That's a lesson hard learned, and one that most people go their whole life without realizing.
David_Cubero
QUOTE(Sweetsalem82103 @ Mar 11 2006, 05:38 AM) [snapback]1099820[/snapback]

"It doesn't matter wheather you buy it from Wal-Mart and it's made by Parker Bros. or wheather you get it from "Demons-R-Us" and it's made by "Satanic Enterprises Inc.," Ouija Boards are not toys or games! They are very serious tools most often used in dark socery and they open portals to evil entites and demons!

If you toy with one of these things, you're absolutely inviting devils to come into your life and oppress you and make your life miserable!!! You could even find yourself possessed by a demon!"
I really resent the statement that they are often used in dark sorcery. I'm pagan, and we often use tools such as the ouija or tarot cards to gain insight on certain things. Some will even argue that it's, in fact, not a spirit at all giving you the answers, but instead it's your subconscious. If you have dark thoughts, especially buried ones, then you will likely have a negative experience with a ouija board. Most often, those that have violent experiences with them have something in their past that they have not dealt with and that is seriously disturbing their psyche, whether they are aware of it or not. If you have a negative experience, the first thing you need to do is stop using the board and think about WHY you had that experience, don't blame it on a demon. Usually the only demons you deal with are those that are inside you. (and no, I don't mean that literally, I mean the demons inside you, whether that be the death of a loved one that has not been coped with; maybe you're an alcoholic or a drug addict; or maybe it's something deeper than any of those)

If you had all the experiences that you had, I'd say that your subconcious was trying to tell you something. The mind is a powerful tool. .it can make you sick, make you bleed. . .pretty much make anything possible happen to you.

By the way. . .I lost my father, my best friend, and my home in the matter of a couple months. . .I don't blame any demon or "game" for that. . .Fate can be cruel. People don't just die because you played with a ouija board. People die when there time is up, even if it seems premature. Death is it's own entity, not something that can be contacted through a ouija board and not something that can be brought forth by one. Nothing controls death, not demons and not priests. That's a lesson hard learned, and one that most people go their whole life without realizing.

>-Demons can make you bleed!
>-Evil Spirits can also take lives!
>-Devils can cause bad fate!


I didn't say that Ouija Boards are ONLY used by Dark Sorcerers, I said that they are OFTEN used by them! That is a HUGE difference! Therefore you have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to resent, but perhaps your own guilt.

Just for your infomation, what my Rabbi tells me I trust over anyone else! I believe that the horrible experiences that I endured between 16 and 20 years ago were caused by my using the Ouija Board and opening the door for evil influences to coming upon me.

I have a friend who is a pagan witch and WILL NOT use a Ouija Board,,,could it be that you are not ALWAYS in the light? I know more about this than you might think, I was once a practising Shamanist. I know the difference between the light and the darkness. I've even been to the abyss! So there you go, I am not some uninformed idiot nor am I against other religous faiths. I am, however, very much against the hap-hazard use of Ouija Boards and Tarot Cards!

I happen to be a grandfather and well educated, I doubt if there are any "life lessons" that you can teach me. I have experienced life and death as a soldier, a paremedic and a police officer. I was a part of three military conflicts, (Grenada, Panama and The First Gulf War!) I know about life and death, I've seen it in ways that you couldn't even comprehend son!

I also know about MY religous faith,,,and incidentally, no offense intended to any Christians, but you ARE NOT dealing with a bible-thumping X-tian Evangelical. I am an Orthodox Jewish Man and I am a TRUE Kabbalist, (NOT a Madonna-type of "Kabbalist" that isn't even Jewish, but is doing it because it's a trendy,) I am the real thing!!! The Kabbalah is Jewish Mysticsm and I am a Jewish Mystic!

You and I will have to agree to disagree about your statement that nothing controls life and death. In my faith, G-d, the G-d of my fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, does! I believe that by breaking commandments that he gave to my ancestors against divination and putting another god, (the ouija Board,) before my G-d that I left His' protection and opened myself to evil.

However, I know that this forum is full of young kids and they want to goof around with Ouija Boards because they think that it's cool! They don't have any education about using them, they just wanna play around to see if it will work! Youthful people want to feel empowered, and feeling that you're in control something mystic and are communicating with spirits is certainly empowering! They want to impress their friends and they want to experiment with a very dangerous tool of divining spirits, which are usually evil.! If you're such a "wise Pagan," then you would know the emmense dangers of this and you would join me in discouraging these kids, wheather you agree with my every word or not
As a Pagan, you know what opens up the doors of evil, and you know that I'm right about Ouija Boards!

Rather than to take offense at the way I scribed my post, why don't you concentrate on keeping kids from causing themselves undue pain and hardship?
Sweetsalem82103
QUOTE(David_Cubero @ Mar 11 2006, 10:25 AM) [snapback]1099935[/snapback]

>-Demons can make you bleed!
>-Evil Spirits can also take lives!
>-Devils can cause bad fate!


I didn't say that Ouija Boards are ONLY used by Dark Sorcerers, I said that they are OFTEN used by them! That is a HUGE difference! Therefore you have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to resent, but perhaps your own guilt.

Just for your infomation, what my Rabbi tells me I trust over anyone else! I believe that the horrible experiences that I endured between 16 and 20 years ago were caused by my using the Ouija Board and opening the door for evil influences to coming upon me.

I have a friend who is a pagan witch and WILL NOT use a Ouija Board,,,could it be that you are not ALWAYS in the light? I know more about this than you might think, I was once a practising Shamanist. I know the difference between the light and the darkness. I've even been to the abyss! So there you go, I am not some uninformed idiot nor am I against other religous faiths. I am, however, very much against the hap-hazard use of Ouija Boards and Tarot Cards!

I happen to be a grandfather and well educated, I doubt if there are any "life lessons" that you can teach me. I have experienced life and death as a soldier, a paremedic and a police officer. I was a part of three military conflicts, (Grenada, Panama and The First Gulf War!) I know about life and death, I've seen it in ways that you couldn't even comprehend son!

I also know about MY religous faith,,,and incidentally, no offense intended to any Christians, but you ARE NOT dealing with a bible-thumping X-tian Evangelical. I am an Orthodox Jewish Man and I am a TRUE Kabbalist, (NOT a Madonna-type of "Kabbalist" that isn't even Jewish, but is doing it because it's a trendy,) I am the real thing!!! The Kabbalah is Jewish Mysticsm and I am a Jewish Mystic!

You and I will have to agree to disagree about your statement that nothing controls life and death. In my faith, G-d, the G-d of my fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, does! I believe that by breaking commandments that he gave to my ancestors against divination and putting another god, (the ouija Board,) before my G-d that I left His' protection and opened myself to evil.

However, I know that this forum is full of young kids and they want to goof around with Ouija Boards because they think that it's cool! They don't have any education about using them, they just wanna play around to see if it will work! Youthful people want to feel empowered, and feeling that you're in control something mystic and are communicating with spirits is certainly empowering! They want to impress their friends and they want to experiment with a very dangerous tool of divining spirits, which are usually evil.! If you're such a "wise Pagan," then you would know the emmense dangers of this and you would join me in discouraging these kids, wheather you agree with my every word or not
As a Pagan, you know what opens up the doors of evil, and you know that I'm right about Ouija Boards!




Rather than to take offense at the way I scribed my post, why don't you concentrate on keeping kids from causing themselves undue pain and hardship?




I was a high priestess of a very prestigious order for three years before I moved, do not doubt my faith, it's very insulting. I was the youngest high priestess ever recorded in the order, so, also, do not doubt how much I know. I do not doubt your faith, and I commend any that follow their faith truly. If you practiced shamanism, how can you say contacting the spirit world is dark? Shamans make astral journeys to the spirit realm, so is this safer than using a ouija? And if your friend is a true pagan, what do they have to fear from a ouija? If they were experienced enough in their religion, then they would know better than to be afraid of it. Most orders and covens teach that it is you subconscious that you are actually communicating with, like I've said before. People truly underestimate the power of the subconcious, and it, in fact, may be more dangerous opening that door than one to the spirit realm. And once again I AM NOT A BOY!! Why does everyone assume I am male? You say that you have experienced death more than me, so be it. You have been in wars (which I'm grateful for you doing), I have not. But I have seen people killed in front of me, and I have lost those that I love, so do not tell me that you know MORE about death than I do just because you've seen more of it. It doesn't matter how much more you've seen, it matters how much more you UNDERSTAND. There are people who have never seen death that understand it better than me or you.

I don't think there is anything to keep them from. I was very young when I learned to use it. It's the matter of learning what it's truly about, not warning them not to mess with one. That'll just make them want to more. Why not just teach them the proper ways to protect themselves so that they won't get into trouble, because they'll use them regardless. I know I did.
a**A_9
wow weird i found my ouija board out in the alley by my house it was in the box
lil_miz_cherubic
im not sure if the ouija board is real but wat i noe is that is works a lot on people but i had also found out that if you will it to answer hard enough your subconciousness would be controling the board and not your hand or a spirit so it could be just you and not if it is true then you can try to find an incantation spell so you would be safe- i personally is very interested and want to try but i now my friends wont do it with me and if i even suggest it they would murder me so......
Aristocrates
i didnt read all these other comments, but all i have to say is that i had a very cool ouija board experience. My bro had this party a while back, like in 2004, and we broke out the ouija board. We all thought is was BS until we "met a spirit" which said it was going to fart on my bro at nightime, lol, anyway, later, we got a message from another spirit thing that gave us its name and stuff, and we all thought smeone was moving the indicator thing, but 'apparently' no-one did. The next day, and for many months after, i could feel a noticeably hotter air over the area in which we placed and used the board...very creepy. Any thoughts or similar experiences?
captain pish
First of all dont listen to anything JPatt says. How can you take a guy who belives wrestling is real seriously? This guy has pics of wrestlers on everything and trys to quote wrestling in posts or at least bring up the subject as often as possible. He likes to use big words to try to portray some sort of intelligence or authority in his posts.

Ouija boards and use of them results in one eventuality, trouble. I, and a couple of friends have had bad experiences with them. Although i agree that some communications are down to involuntry manipulation by the the users, many cases are bona fide paranormal events. For instance is it me moving the pointer when i am not touching it? Is it the power of my mind or subconcious when the pointer flies of the board and onto the floor?

My advice would be to not go anywhere near one of these boards. When the boards were first commercially released the church of england reported massive increases in the number of exorcisms they were performing and even took action to try and get the boards banned. The boards have varying effects from nothing at all happeneing to all hell being let loose if youll pardon the pun! You may find nothing happens to you as in many cases but are you willing to take the risk of being one of the unfortunate ones who has an evil and lasting effect from it?

Its up to the individual to choose but id stay well away from them
David_Cubero
QUOTE(Sweetsalem82103 @ Mar 11 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]1100159[/snapback]

I was a high priestess of a very prestigious order for three years before I moved, do not doubt my faith, it's very insulting. I was the youngest high priestess ever recorded in the order, so, also, do not doubt how much I know. I do not doubt your faith, and I commend any that follow their faith truly. If you practiced shamanism, how can you say contacting the spirit world is dark? Shamans make astral journeys to the spirit realm, so is this safer than using a ouija? And if your friend is a true pagan, what do they have to fear from a ouija? If they were experienced enough in their religion, then they would know better than to be afraid of it. Most orders and covens teach that it is you subconscious that you are actually communicating with, like I've said before. People truly underestimate the power of the subconcious, and it, in fact, may be more dangerous opening that door than one to the spirit realm. And once again I AM NOT A BOY!! Why does everyone assume I am male? You say that you have experienced death more than me, so be it. You have been in wars (which I'm grateful for you doing), I have not. But I have seen people killed in front of me, and I have lost those that I love, so do not tell me that you know MORE about death than I do just because you've seen more of it. It doesn't matter how much more you've seen, it matters how much more you UNDERSTAND. There are people who have never seen death that understand it better than me or you.

I don't think there is anything to keep them from. I was very young when I learned to use it. It's the matter of learning what it's truly about, not warning them not to mess with one. That'll just make them want to more. Why not just teach them the proper ways to protect themselves so that they won't get into trouble, because they'll use them regardless. I know I did.

Well first off, I apologise for the gender mix-up, I dunno why that I assumed that you were a male. I'm sorry for that! unsure.gif

Granted, you have a very prestigous past in Paganism and I truly respect that and I offer you my congratulations for having achieved so much at a young age! thumbsup.gif

I also get what you're saying about the subconcious, and yeah, it's a powerful thing, but I disagree with you that the subconcious is responsible for everything or that it's responsible for my inundation of ill-fate that I endured during the late 80's and early 90's.

My friend, (The Pagan that I mentioned before,) is a Celtic Druid in his' mid-50's, He is a High Priest of his' Coven and He has a Professional Occupation and is well respected both by The Professional Community and by The Druid/Pagan Community. He was born into the religon, as I remember what he told me, his' Father practised Druidism and his mother was a Wiccan. He believes that Ouija Boards are a very bad idea. I don't know what his' reasoning for this is,,,,I CAN NOT speak for him and He never elaborated on what he based this notion. All I know is that once, while we were working togeather, he told me that he won't fool with a Ouija Board and that he thinks that they shouldn't be sold in the "Game Section" of the "Toy Department" at Wal-Mart and K-Mart because kids can certainly open themselves up to all sorts of aweful things by playing with them, thinking that they are merely games.

According to The North American Native form of Shamanism that I practised at one time, there was a very strong belief in the dark side! (BTW, going to "The Abyss" is a Spiritual Jouney that I practised while I was into Shamanism, it was done ONLY through meditation, there was no chemical enhancement to the experience and it was done in the presence of The Shaman who lead you and kept you far away from anything evil influences.) In fact, the only enhancement that my group ever used was The Sweat Lodge, which certainly opened your eyes to the other planes and was physically cleansing.

It's very very easy for me to say that there is a dark side! Remember, I was born Jewish, (both by heritage and by religon,) and aside from the time when I "side-tracked" and went into Shamanism, I have always been a practisioner of The Jewish Faith and I still am. Evil is certainly taught by my religion., just as it was by the form of Shamanism that I practised.

As a TRUE Kabbalist, I ask you,,,how can there be good without evil? The Universe is a place of balance, beit day and night, light and dark, hot and cold, stormy and sunny, wet and dry,,,everything must have an opposing side, and that includes good and evil. Isn't it a bit nieve to ignore this quality of the Universe in which we live? I think that we all have to conclude that there is a dark side, there has to be a dark side in order for there to be a light side! It's a law of this and all other planes of existance except for Heaven and Hell!

There may be people who better understand the concepts of death than we do and I understand what you are saying. Yet, I have seen more than my share of death in my past occupations and I have the sense that I have a pretty clear understanding of what it's about,,,just as I understand what mourning is about. Heck, I'm an expert on the subject of mourning and you become one especially if you bury two of your children.

I DON'T disrespect your beliefs, just as you don't disrepect mine and I appreciate that you DO respect my faith.

We can continue to debate this for months, but because our beliefs do differ in several key areas we'll never agree.

I'm afraid that we'll just have to offer each other our love and embrace each other's different concepts and ideas and otherwise, agree to disagree. original.gif
stargazer123
QUOTE(David_Cubero @ Mar 11 2006, 08:16 AM) [snapback]1099768[/snapback]

I have writtien about the serious dangers of Ouija Boards on this Forum numerous times over the years that I have been a member,,,and I'll say it again:

DON'T MESS AROUND WITH OUIJA BOARDS!!!!!!!

It doesn't matter wheather you buy it from Wal-Mart and it's made by Parker Bros. or wheather you get it from "Demons-R-Us" and it's made by "Satanic Enterprises Inc.," Ouija Boards are not toys or games! They are very serious tools most often used in dark socery and they open portals to evil entites and demons!

If you toy with one of these things, you're absolutely inviting devils to come into your life and oppress you and make your life miserable!!! You could even find yourself possessed by a demon!

I am a man with experience.

I want every reader to pay very close attention to what I am about to share!!!

I was young and curious and I thought that it would be cool to I play with a Ouija Board. Almost immediately I began to endure a hell on earth! Within weeks my Father died suddenly, followed by my Mother, my Last Surviving Grandmother, My Wife and Two of our Children, they all died within a four year time period. At the same time, I fell extremely ill and I was eventually diagnosed with Lupus which put me into Intensive Care where my fever rose so high that I had a seizure and went into Cardio-Pulmonary Arrest. (A very alert nursing staff brought me back.) Later my Bladder Function ceased, I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis, High Blood Preasure, and a long list of other illnesses. I couldn't work for over a year and I had to sell my house before the bank foreclosed on it. I was so weak that I even had to use a wheelchair during the worst months of my illness.

It finally occurred to me that perhaps playing with that Ouija Board had been the cause of all of my bad fortune, so I talked to my Rabbi who said that I had caused myself to become oppressed by Demons. It took six Rabbis and a Minion. (in the Jewish faith this is ten or more Jewish men who join togeather in prayer,) several weeks of prayer sessions to get my life and health back on track and to release me from the grips of the demon(s).

Through my faith in G-d I have reclaimed my life! I can and do work now,,,in fact I'm finally living my dream as a professional Hollywood film and television actor, I have bought a new house, my health is relatively good and I am thankful! No one can bring back my loved ones, but at least I am at peace with their deaths.

I'm not suggesting that everyone who uses a Ouija Board will suffer tragedy to this extent, but I am warning you that it CAN happen!!!!!

It's like the message about the venomous snakes and drugs,,,if you play with a poisonous snake, don't be surprised when it bites you!!!
TAKE HEED!!!!!



David I'm sorry to hear about your losses. What a strong soul indeed you are.
I feel like you on this. I had a very scary experience with one as a teenager. My friends found this old wooden ouija board in an abandoned building. They wanted to show me one and me being a moron went with them.

The building was abandoned but it had seemed like everyone just fleed. They left furniture clothes and paintings, everything in every apartment. It was creepy to say the least. Anyway we took the board from the house and messed around with it. I thought my friends were joshing me by moving the cup but they swore they didn't so I asked it a specific question that no one else knew. The name of something. I was stunned to see that it spelled it out correctly. Shortly after it seemed like we were all fighting all the time and became obsessed with playing with that darn board. Some other things happened that were not good and we finally destroyed the board.

I'm sure good spirits can come through but as for myself I vowed never to play with one again. Sometimes we are so fasinated to open the portal we forget that not everything is good......no more for me. no.gif
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David I'm sorry to hear about your losses. What a strong soul indeed you are.
I feel like you on this. I had a very scary experience with one as a teenager. My friends found this old wooden ouija board in an abandoned building. They wanted to show me one and me being a moron went with them.

The building was abandoned but it had seemed like everyone just fleed. They left furniture clothes and paintings, everything in every apartment. It was creepy to say the least. Anyway we took the board from the house and messed around with it. I thought my friends were joshing me by moving the cup but they swore they didn't so I asked it a specific question that no one else knew. The name of something. I was stunned to see that it spelled it out correctly. Shortly after it seemed like we were all fighting all the time and became obsessed with playing with that darn board. Some other things happened that were not good and we finally destroyed the board.

I'm sure good spirits can come through but as for myself I vowed never to play with one again. Sometimes we are so fasinated to open the portal we forget that not everything is good......no more for me. no.gif

Stargazer, thank you for expressing your sympathies. I do consider myself a strong person, and it's precisely the horrible things that I've endured that made me this way. Anyting that doesn't kill you, makes you stronger, ya know. thumbsup.gif

It is good to hear that you were wise enough to destroy that board before things really got out of hand and that you're done fooling with them.

You described the most common things that I have heard from people who have used or misused Ouija Boards. They often mention the discord, the obssession with playing with the things, etc.

I agree that good spirits can come through Boards, but I believe that it's much more likely that the bad things will crawl through the portal and make your life miserable to one degree or another.

Thanks for your post. original.gif
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