Fushar
Feb 26 2005, 12:47 AM
I havent researched information about this, and thought it would be a mystery or something.
So where do black people, white people, asian people, arabic-looking people, indians, etc come from?
Did the sun over tanned people who then after thousands of years became black? Did the people who lived in so-cold areas that they ended up white after thounsads of years? Why are asians yellow and why do they have almost-closed eyes? etc etc
Can you people explain or elaborate on this?
Sorry im an ignorant in this subject.
Firien
Feb 26 2005, 12:49 AM
wow this ought to be interesting. but seriously its something i have always wondered too. if supposedly adam and eve were one race and that all it started out with, then how all the other races and colors???
Shivel
Feb 26 2005, 12:57 AM
People evolved to better suit their climate and surroundings..thats all it really is i think.
HolyDevil2053
Feb 26 2005, 01:01 AM
well if you go about the adam and eve way...their descendants were all scattered into the different directions of the world in the Tower of Babel *story*...thus the creation of the different langueges...but if this is true, then some of Darwin's theory could be true to apply to this, that maybe sun tanning did make skin darker, just any changes in climate, weather, environment after thousands of years created the differences we see today...
But of course a couple more hundred years, we are all gonna be the same with all the interracial children and so on...
I am half Puerto Rican and Korean...imagine that.
jenk
Feb 26 2005, 01:05 AM
The skin is due to pigment in the skin. Since populations used to be isolated they would evolve their own traits. For example, the trait for any eye color but brown was an isolated mutation that spread across europe. Now that our races have a large amount of intermixing the traits will all be blended (I'm not surprised to see an Asian with blue eyes). The first humans most likely were black but when they migrated their pigments changed to reflect the sun and heat they meet in their new lands. *note Inuit lack almost any body hair, this is funny becuase one would assume that you would need more hair.

Thats one crappy random mutation.
ChariotInTheSky
Feb 26 2005, 01:05 AM
Well its pretty logical if you think about it, and this topic will have a similar answer to the one in another section about why there are so many different gods. It basicially boils down to one's environment. As people began to spread out from that African soil on which we are believed to have originated on, we began to become more diverse in language, cultures, and more on topic looks. The physicalites are formed because of the environments the ancestors settled in. I don't want to get into too much detail, but you can easily see this if you think a little critically. Sorry for the inadequate post.
BurnSide
Feb 26 2005, 01:10 AM
About 600,000 years ago, Upright Man appeared in the scene of evolution.
With his talent for communication and skill in making tools, Upright man became much more sucessful than his predecessor, Ape-Man, who was basically no more than a large Chimpanzee. His numbers spread and he began to migrate. From Africa, he moved towards the eastern Mediterrainean, and to Europe and Asia.
Then, something happened to the worlds climates. It started to get very very cold all over the world.
In Europe, Upright Man must have felt the cold increasingly keenly. He had evolved in the warm plains of Africa and did not have teh ability to survive in such cold climates, for his dark skin was perfectly suited to hot temperatures. Therefore, he started wearing furs to protect himself from the cold and his dark skin, useful for protection in hot temperate climates but useless in colder climates, changed and became light in colour.
He started to live in caves to further protect himself from the cold and slowly evolved into Homo Sapiens- Wise Man.
So, the bodies olf men responded to the climates and environments they found themselves in, and over the course of the several hundred thousand years, this impressed physical changes in our genes. Those that lived in tropics, like Africans and Australian Aborigines, had dark skins. WHY?
Pigmentation may have been aquired several times, quite independently, so a black skin is not by itself an indication of a close relationship to another black skin. It's purpose is simply protection. The rays of the sun, in excess, can be very harmful. Beating on an unprotected fair skin, they can produce a cancer. Dark pigmentation, however, provides an effective shield. Many people living in such environments, in Africa, India and Australia, also share another characteristic: thin, attenuated bodies. This shape is also an evolutionary, adaptive response to the hot, dry environment. It provides a large area of skin surface in proportion to body weight, a greater expanse over which winds and evaporating sweat can cool the body.
In cold regions, the effect was of course completely reversed. The suns rays, in moderation, were important for health. So in the north, the people evolved fair skins to help the suns rays create vitamin D, which is essential for our survival. Eskimos, for example, are also squat and short, which retains heat better for colder environments.
I'd like to see a 'religious' reason top that. All this is common scientific knowledge.
Source: David Attenborough, 'Life on Earth'.
Hotoke
Feb 26 2005, 01:10 AM
God did it
ChariotInTheSky
Feb 26 2005, 01:11 AM
Now there's the post I was FAR too lazy to make ha... Thanks BurnSide, that should answer this question quite nicely.
BurnSide
Feb 26 2005, 01:11 AM
And i'll thank everyone who posted, in alot simpler detail, what i posted before me.
HolyDevil2053
Feb 26 2005, 01:14 AM
QUOTE(Hotoke @ Feb 25 2005, 08:10 PM)
God did it

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LOL...good comeback...lol
But I think Burnside still got a bit more points...lol
William_22312
Feb 26 2005, 01:15 AM
Latitude has a direct relationship with skin pigment and actually intelligence as well....doesnt explain why asians have Almond shaped eyes though. Decendant of Northern Eskimo types? Thoughts
Mad Manfred
Feb 26 2005, 03:12 AM
I once wrote a little fictitious piece when I was about 10.
It was set about a million years ago and an intergalactic "UN" type organization with different races got together and realized they'd expended all their natural resources. So they colonized earth.
They annihilated the neanderthals and cro-magnons and took their place. They seperated, each race finding nice little corner of the world to settle in.
Problem is, the different races started waring with each other and devastated the land...within a few generations their past was lost and they continued on with their merry lives as the inhabitants of earth.
Simple, though interesting nonetheless if it actually happened
Bex
Feb 26 2005, 04:00 AM
So why can't the people of color or lack of it change when they live in other countries???
ChariotInTheSky
Feb 26 2005, 04:14 AM
Because its also on a genetic level... as these people began to adapt to their environments on a physical level, these changes became not only evident on the surface level, but also beneath it. If these things happened physically, they had to have been embedded in our genes and as the people begin to produce within their respective cultures, the tendency for these genes to be passed along strengthened to the point they have today. This is somewhat supported by interracial relationships that result in a mixed child. You can see the traits of both of the parents which have been passed along from these first communities...
At least, that's what I came to on first thought.
BurnSide
Feb 26 2005, 04:15 AM
Because evolution takes hundreds of thousands of years, not 48 hours.
jjtss
Feb 26 2005, 04:17 AM
Homo Sapiens Sapiens is only about 50,000 yrs old and his appearance was sudden and enabled him to learn and advance in technological skills. I prefer the ridiculous theory that all of the different races were genetically engineered by other beings (aliens?) probably because they were owned by these beings and the differentiations precluded branding.
In short god created man in his own image to make him a better servant. The gods made the servants different to quickly identify them.
There are three legends of utopias on earth, Atlantis, Mu, and Shangri La. If one wanted to rule the earth you would divide it into thirds longitudinally and in half horizontally. Back in the fifties it was taught that there were 6 races, black, white, red, oriental, ainu and semitic. This then corresponds with the world divisions of the Utopian rulers and also accounts for the ancient location of the prime meridian at the Nile. Anyway it's just a theory that does tend to integrate a lot of diverse information.
P.S. Arabic looking people are semitic, as are Jews. I believe that we are a separate race . The US Census bureau counts semitic people as white/caucasian
ChariotInTheSky
Feb 26 2005, 04:26 AM
Wait, you DO realize that the first sentence of that statement is incorrect right? The oldest ancestor of our current evolution, is 150,000 years old and that is Mitochondrial Eve, while the whole of the Sapien line is believe to have begun about 200,000 years ago. You're off by quite a bit if you were being serious.
BurnSide
Feb 26 2005, 04:31 AM
ChariotInTheSky, the oldest current remains of a Sapien are dated to 3 million years ago, belonging to that of the pre-'Ape Man'.
While it's true Homo Sapiens first appeared approximately 150,000 years ago, Upright Man first appeared on the scene much much much longer ago than 200,000 years.
Adramaleck
Feb 26 2005, 04:46 AM
It's not evolution.
People didn't evolve white skin or black skin. Environment does not affect genetics like that. The way it effects gentics is as follows by example in a cute little story.
Alfie the girraffe had an extra long neck, and all the other giraffes made fun of him for it. He cried and cried, and wondered how he'd ever get a girlfriend. Then one day, all the leaves from the bottom of the trees were gone! Alfie was the only one who could reach the leaves. All of a sudden, all the females flocked to Alfie, and he had lots of little Alfies with long necks. The trees never did grow leaves on the bottom branches anymore, and only the Alfie-longnecks survived.
That's how gentics work. Skin color gene doesn't change because of effects on a single being.
Example: If some guy gets his arm chopped off, then has a baby, it will not be one armed.
I'm sorry Burnside, but I just can't see that information as being true, as plausable as it may sound. No offence

edit:
To quote darwin: survival of the fittest.
BurnSide
Feb 26 2005, 04:53 AM
Well, tell that to Sir David Attenborough, the worlds leading brain on Biology, who has had more experience with animals and the nature of evolution than anyone else in the world, who i quoted and sourced.
I think i'll take his word, over yours.
The evidence is there, concrete, undeniable. If some choose to turn a blind eye towards the evidence, where everywhere else it's taught as fact in our classrooms and universities, that's not my problem.
Evolution does work like that. It's called adapting to the environment.
Adramaleck
Feb 26 2005, 05:01 AM
Perhaps there has been some advancement and adaptation, then since darwin that i was unaware of. Darwin disproved the use and disuse theory but I guess it is now taken back into consideration. It's not my word - it's Darwin's.
Fushar
Feb 26 2005, 05:33 AM
QUOTE(pisces1963 @ Feb 26 2005, 12:00 AM)
So why can't the people of color or lack of it change when they live in other countries???
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When i was 10 years old i used to be dark skinned, now im 20 and im light skinner, it was because when i was a kid i used to be exposed to the sun too much, in the last years its been all the way around, i can say its because of the sun, too much exposure to the sun and your skin gets dark, lack of it makes it lighter, all in 10 years. Anyways i suppose the genes, skin changes and such are affected in a period of thousands of years or so.
boooyah
Feb 26 2005, 05:49 AM
when i was a kid i used to think that orientals had slanted eyes to keep sand and dust and dirt out of them, foolish i know.
but i really still have now idea how something like slanted eyes could have any benifits, any other ideas out there why? this always bothered me.
and also no offence to anyone who fits that criteria im just a bit curious
BurnSide
Feb 26 2005, 02:05 PM
http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/rgh.htmQUOTE
The racial differences that impressed early Europeans and that continue to bother many people today include skin color, eye shape, hair type, body and facial form—in short, the traits that often allow us to determine a person's origin in a single glance. Ignoring admixture, it is fairly easy to recognize a European, an African, and an Asian, to mention those standard types with which we are most familiar. Many of these characteristics—almost homogeneous on a particular continent—give us the impression that "pure" races exist, and that the differences between them are pronounced. These traits are at least partly genetically determined. Skin color and body size are less subject to genetic influence since they are also affected by exposure to the sun and diet, but there is always a hereditary component that can be quite important.
These characteristics influence us a lot, because we recognize them easily. What causes them? It is almost certain they evolved in the most recent period of human evolution, when "modern" humans, or early humans practically undistinguishable from ourselves, first appeared in Africa, grew in numbers, and began to expand to the other continents. Evidence and details will be discussed later. What interests us here is that this diaspora of Africans to the rest of the world exposed them to a great variety of environments: from hot and humid or hot and dry environments (to which they were already accustomed) to temperate and cold ones, including the coldest ones of the world, as in Siberia. We can go through some of the steps that this entailed.
Check the link and read the article for information as to why we have different skin colour, body shapes, eye shapes, hair types, etc etc etc etc. I think it explains why very well.
Q-La
Feb 26 2005, 02:35 PM
QUOTE(boooyah @ Feb 26 2005, 05:49 AM)
...i really still have now idea how something like slanted eyes could have any benifits, any other ideas out there why? ...
Can it be about humidity? If area of eyeball exposed is smaller than less water is loss and it feels better for the eye.
sultanmuratova
Feb 26 2005, 08:08 PM
i once saw a documentary about why we all have different shades of skin. it has to do with ultraviolet light, apperently it penetrates the earth in some places more than others. which is why the humans in that area over time have developed protection against it.
the places where the sun penetrates earth the most is africa, parts of south america, india and australia, new guinea.
they showed like a map of the earth where you can see where ultraviolet reaches the earths surface more and it is consistent with the color of ones skin.
was a very interesting documentary, was on discovery channel about a year ago or more.
but anyway in short its because of the sun and some people just need more protection than other due to the area they live in. and in time it became genetic.
funkprink
Feb 26 2005, 10:15 PM
It all has to do with the environment, you live in. Where these groups of people live affected their genetic traits. It happens to animals too.
eckogangsta
Feb 26 2005, 11:30 PM
how many different color races are there?
Caucasian
African
Asian
Indian/MiddleEastern
Hispanic (please note hispanic is different from indian!)
Any others?
Athenian
Feb 27 2005, 12:46 AM
QUOTE(eckogangsta @ Feb 26 2005, 11:30 PM)
how many different color races are there?
Caucasian
African
Asian
Indian/MiddleEastern
Hispanic (please note hispanic is different from indian!)
Any others?
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I. Capoid or Khoisanid Subspecies of southern Africa
A. Khoid (Hottentot) race
B. Sanid (Bushmen) race
II. Congoid Subspecies of sub-Saharan Africa
A. Central Congoid race (Geographic center and origin in the Congo river basin)
1. Palaecongoid subrace (the Congo river basin: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Congo, Angola)
2. Sudanid subrace (western Africa: Niger, Mali, Senegal, Guinea)
3. Nilotid subrace (southern Sudan; the ancient Nubians were of this subrace)
4. Kafrid or Bantid subrace (east and south Africa: Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, Natal)
B. Bambutid race (African Pygmies)
C. Aethiopid race (Ethiopia, Somalia; hybridized with Caucasoids)
III. Caucasoid or Europid Subspecies (Geographic distribution centered in the Caucasus mountains)
A. Mediterranid race
1. West Mediterranean or Iberid subrace (Spain, Portugal, Corsica, Sardinia, and coastal areas of Morocco and Tunisia; the Atlanto-Mediterranean peoples who expanded over much of the Atlantic coastal regions of Europe during the Mesolithic period were a branch of this subrace)
2. East Mediterranean or Pontid subrace (Black Sea coast of Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria; Aegean coasts of Greece and Turkey)
3. Dinaricized Mediterraneans (Residual mixed types resulting from the blending of Mediterranids with Dinarics, Alpines or Armenids; not a unified type, has much regional variation; predominant element [over 60%] in Sicily and southern Italy, principal element in Turkey [35%], important element in western Syria, Lebanon and central Italy, common in northern Italy. The ancient Cappadocian Mediterranean subrace of Anatolia was dinaricized during the Bronze Age [second millennium B.C.] and is a major contributor to this type in modern Turkey.)
4. South Mediterranean or Saharid subrace (predominant in Algeria and Libya, important in Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt)
5. Orientalid or Arabid subrace (predominant in Arabia, major element from Egypt to Syria, primary in northern Sudan, important in Iraq, predominant element among the Oriental Jews)
B. Dinaric race (predominant in western Balkans [Dinaric Mountains] and northern Italy, important in the Czech Republic, eastern and southern Switzerland, western Austria and eastern Ukraine)
C. Alpine race (predominant element in Luxembourg, primary in Bavaria and Bohemia, important in France, Hungary, eastern and southern Switzerland)
D. Ladogan race (named after Lake Ladoga; indigenous to Russia; includes Lappish subrace of arctic Europe)
E. Nordish or Northern European race (various subraces in the British Isles, Scandinavia, the Netherlands and Belgium; predominant element in Germany, Switzerland, Poland, Finland and the Baltic States; majority in Austria and Russia; minority in France, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary; outlined in detail in The Nordish Race)
F. Armenid race (predominant element in Armenia, common in Syria, Lebanon and northern Iraq, primary element among the Ashkenazic Jews)
G. Turanid race (partially hybridized with Mongoloids; predominant element in Kazakhstan.; common in Hungary and Turkey)
H. Irano-Afghan race (predominant in Iran and Afghanistan, primary element in Iraq, common [25%] in Turkey)
I. Indic or Nordindid race (Pakistan and northern India)
J. Dravidic race (India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka [Ceylon]; ancient stabilized Indic-Veddoid [Australoid] blend)
IV. Australoid Subspecies
A. Veddoid race (remnant Australoid population in central and southern India)
B. Negritos (remnants in Malaysia and the Philippines)
C. Melanesian race (New Guinea, Papua, Solomon Islands)
D. Australian-Tasmanian race (Australian Aborigines)
V. Mongoloid Subspecies
A. Northeast Asian race (various subraces in China, Manchuria, Korea and Japan)
B. Southeast Asian race (various subraces in Indochina, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines, some partly hybridized with Australoids)
C. Micronesian-Polynesian race (hybridized with Australoids)
D. Ainuid race (remnants of aboriginal population in northern Japan)
E. Tungid race (Mongolia and Siberia, Eskimos)
F. Amerindian race (American Indians; various subraces)
jjtss
Feb 27 2005, 01:30 AM
QUOTE(ChariotInTheSky @ Feb 26 2005, 04:26 AM)
Wait, you DO realize that the first sentence of that statement is incorrect right? The oldest ancestor of our current evolution, is 150,000 years old and that is Mitochondrial Eve, while the whole of the Sapien line is believe to have begun about 200,000 years ago. You're off by quite a bit if you were being serious.
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There was Homo Sapiens as you have noted and then later there is Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Info is in all encyclopedias-unless it has been revised. Sapiens sapiens is the higher intelligence that can invent and rationalize.(not lately though)

PS: I don't mean you, I was thinking of G. Brish POTUS
bigdog112
Feb 27 2005, 03:08 AM
the bible achuly has a reson for some races mostly aribic and jews.
an early decendent of adem and eve had 2 sons thay grew to hate each other thay both fought constently and soon founded there own realigens and contrys all based on jahova/GOD/Ala. These 2 brothers founded jewish and aribic races.
I Would have to talk to my grandmother she told me about that part in the bible after 9/11 but thats the brunt of the story. I am not sure exacly whos childern are the 2 sons.
ChariotInTheSky
Feb 27 2005, 04:09 AM
I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about, and though I know want nothing to do with the religion (or god in general) I can tell you that I haven't ever heard that. Sounds like someone mixed the battles of Cain and Abel with something that couldn't possibly be true. Jehovah or God's Judaic religion as well as his Ismalic one, only exists because of the "founding father" of Abrahamic religions, Abraham. The founder of sorts of the scriptures would be Moses, who is believed to have scribed them in 2nd millenium BC.
These "facts" bare no witness to the tale you speak of however, and I don't find it consistent with the theory that these were the ways the Jewish and or Arabic races were founded. (Especially considering there is reason to believe that there were people speaking semitic languages as early as the 3rd millenium BC. Also that story assumes that the cultures were founded at the same time as it seems. This is also incorrect: "Allah" didn't reveal himself to Muhammad until sometime around 600 BC while Moses writings would have formed that society WELL before this. On top of that, neither of these could have come from any line of an early descendent of Adam. That time span is too great, even if you foolishly ignore evolution.
In other words, where in the world did this tale come from? And even more importantly, where does the 9/11 tale appear in the bible?
Ularewolf
Feb 28 2005, 03:46 AM
Ok, I only read the first page, but I might as well post. Just like other species, we have different races. We all adapted to our own climate changes, and therefore here we are today. To another post, we don't change when we go to other regions because it takes more than a few years to change races. It takes millenias for change.
final flight
Feb 28 2005, 03:54 AM
I agree with darwins law of natural selection, or survival of the fittest. The individuals with the best traits for there surroundings survived and were able to produce offspring.
lotus_spring
Feb 28 2005, 09:04 AM
Hi,
I would like to answer your question about races directly, may I be modest and not showing off in my acquired wisdom
God of Isreal created the Isrealite race which is now the dark haired caucasian,
Zeus created the blonde race or the faired hair caucasian,
Buddha created the Indian race,
Nu Wa created the chinese race,
Also there are various other gods of other tribes and one of them is the African race,
And also the Eygptian God who created the red race, which is now extinct.
I am sure after you read what I have written you will go odds against me, but thats fine and as expected, I will clarify to the best of my knowledge.
lotus_spring
Feb 28 2005, 09:25 AM
Unless you suffer from severe myopia or eye problems, pls read this.
An extract of a conference (translated from Chinese)Teaching the Fa at the 2004 International Fa Conference in New York (Questions & Answers Section, Part III :
Disciple: Buddhism originated in India, but later on it disappeared from India. Nowadays in India there are many different cultures and languages, and that makes it hard for Dafa to spread there. Is this because of the old forces' arrangements? Esteemed Teacher, please give us some guidance on this.
Teacher: It's the same as China in that regard. China is such a large area, and the dialects of many regions are unintelligible to people in other regions. But everybody speaks Mandarin, the national language, and so people can understand each other. In India it's actually the same. India too has an official language, and many Indians speak English. The British were there for quite a long time, so a lot of older people speak English. India has a large population and a sizeable land mass, so there are bound to be differences in language. I don't think that is stopping them from obtaining the Fa. For sure it's the old forces stopping them. The Dafa disciples in China were able to resolve this issue, and the ones in India can, too.
The people of India have changed a lot since taking up other religions and an assortment of beliefs. In the past, Indians were a people of primal simplicity; the Indian race was created by a Buddha.
The human beings on earth were created by different gods. It's as if the feet of some gods in the cosmos were planted here, the Three Realms--there are Buddhas' feet, Daos' feet, and feet of all kinds of Gods. At the bottoms of their feet--the particles at the lowest level--are the Three Realms and the Earth, on which are the different people of this world, with different people corresponding to different gods' systems. Shakyamuni often said that the feet were dirty. In fact what he meant was that this human place is at a low level. In other words, once a god created a person, the person became part of that god's system, and that is why gods looked after people. But later on, because Fa-rectification began, the gods that created man abandoned the Three Realms and mankind; the gods who created man all separated from the Three Realms, so man became isolated. This surface human form, also called the human skin, still assumes the images of different ethnic groups, but it no longer has any ties with the gods above. In other words, it no longer has ties with the gods who created man before. Didn't the gods from high levels in the cosmos come down one after another, taking on a human form to obtain the Fa? Put another way, most human bodies today are being used by beings who descended from higher realms to become human beings here. This clothing is being donned by beings that came from higher realms. Once they arrive at this human place you can't call them gods anymore, because in the past beings that came down to this human place could never return; once someone arrived at this realm he became a being of this realm. So in other words, he became human, with the only difference being that he came from high levels. Well, at this point in the discussion, what I am saying is that the former gods who can't be saved when my Great Law is widely spread will, provided they are not so bad they must be weeded out, forever be human beings here. And we are talking about those who have not sinned against Dafa and are not overly bad. They will be human beings in the next period, when the future mankind truly begins.
The mankind of today was not meant to be an everlasting level in the cosmos. The Three Realms was created for the Fa-rectification, and no matter how long its history is, the beings here are meant for the purpose of Fa-rectification and existing alongside the Fa-rectification. Gods directed mankind by shaping its cultures, behavior, and ways of thinking, as well as its biological makeup. That process was a part of history that was meant to facilitate the Fa-rectification, it took place for the Fa-rectification, and it was for Fa-rectification that the different dynasties of man constantly changed. In other words, human beings are in fact not truly beings that belong to this level of the cosmos. This level of beings that are humans and this society were created with a purpose. If during this Fa-rectification human beings act well, mankind will be blessed. Because the Great Law is spread here, the true history of this level of beings--humans--will really commence in the future, and the Great Law will establish the lives of human beings for this future level. Put another way, in the future man will really exist, and this level will become forever a part of the cosmos's composition, this level will forever be a level of the cosmos. (Applause) So in the future the people who do not sin against Dafa but do not cultivate in Dafa will forever be human beings here.
Today's human world is scary indeed, and no one dared to come here before. Once they got here they would have entered the delusion, and with their minds wiped clean, no matter how high a level a god was from, he wouldn't know anything once he got here. After getting immersed in the reversed principles in this world, and driven by the human self-interest and qing of this world, people are capable of doing anything. All a being can do here is go down the road to ruin, and it's hard for him to extricate himself. At this human level, qing manifests like water; it is smaller than the particles of water that people can see and highly dense. It is a god, but it is formless, and it's called "qing." It is a god that was created when the Three Realms was created, and it just plays the role it does. Here, any being that is composed of particles within the Three Realms is submerged. When looked at from a microcosmic level, the molecules in the human body are large pellets, and there are gaps between those pellets. So as human beings are submerged here, and the spaces between the molecules in the human body--and even the spaces inside the molecules--are immersed in qing, it is as if they are submerged in water. Who can say he's not affected by qing? If someone can break out of qing, then that person is divine. (Applause) Your being happy, your being unhappy, your liking something, your disliking something, your being angry--any emotional response from you--your liking certain physical objects, your liking certain work, your wanting to have certain foods... all of these things are from qing.
The surface body of man--despite the fact that this being came from high levels--the surface body of the human being is composed from the different foods in this dimension, but at the same time, the surface that you see is quite complicated. Human beings have a True Body. (Of course, this Fa should be taught in the future, as it is Fa that is within the Three Realms.) The composition of the human body is complex. When a person is born, the lower-realm gods in charge of human beings' reincarnation have to give that person a human skin. That human skin is very small at the time; its manifestation in that dimension is quite small. Starting from when it is an embryo, the matter from this dimension that its parents give it--what people call "nutrition"--continually makes it fill out and get bigger. This process of filling it out and making it bigger is the process of growth. It fills out and enlarges because it is continually substantiated by this dimension's matter, which continually fills out and enlarges the true skin. The same is true with the process of a person's growth after birth: whatever human food you eat, your body will grow, and that growth is in fact your true skin being filled out and enlarged by cells formed as a result of the food you consume after birth. Then when a person dies, usually his true skin is extracted and taken away. It is more microcosmic than the matter at the outermost surface, so gods can take it away effortlessly. As soon as the true skin is taken away, the body at the surface starts to break down and rot. Since it was composed of matter of the earth in this dimension, it needs to return to the earth, so it has to rot here.
I'm talking about the Fa in the Three Realms. (Master smiles) (Audience chuckles, applauds) Your human surface likes to hear it, but it serves no purpose in high-level cultivation. In other words, as I said a little earlier, beings that came from upper realms are actually wearing this set of clothes now--the human skin that is, this human body at the surface. Since human beings' surface appearances were created by gods before, in the past they were always connected to those gods, so they basically had those gods' images. They were identical for the most part, with only minor differences. Each person might have his own appearance, but overall he has that god's basic image. So different gods created different human beings. But, due to the Fa-rectification period starting, they all abandoned mankind. Some people say they are of such-and-such ethnicity, but in the eyes of gods they actually don't belong to any ethnicity. It's just that their bodies at the surface still have the appearance of that ethnicity; the true them is not part of it. They might very well have reincarnated from other ethnic groups, and many beings came from the heavens.
When gods created man they did not do so in the heavens, they did it on earth. That is, they used the matter on earth to create man. Apparently it was said in the Old Testament that Yahweh created man of clay. In fact, molecules are one kind of particle that are at the surface of the lowest level of the cosmos. Put differently, in gods' eyes this layer of particles is the earth, the clay. [They see it that way] because their matter is the best matter in the cosmos, and the further down you go in the cosmos, the lower things are and the larger and coarser the particles get, which means the worse things are, and in their eyes the filthier things are. So heaven and earth in their eyes are different from how human beings perceive them. When people say that someone has gone to the heavens, he has in fact only gone higher and traveled further among the molecules. He still hasn't left this dimension of molecules, so he is not really in the heavens. The heavens that gods refer to are composed of microcosmic particles--those are the real heavens.
Scientists ask, "Where can you find the gods? We've seen the heavens with our telescopes--where are the gods?" That's not the true heavens, but just the heavens as humans think of them. It's not the true "heavens" spoken of by the beings in the cosmos. And "Earth" as we know it doesn't fully encompass the true idea of earth. Human beings look at Earth and think, "Oh, this earth, it is our earth. We are standing on the earth. The earth is round." Gods say that it isn't round. [People might think,] "How is it not round? We can see it more clearly than the gods." But think about it, gods think of molecules as dirt on the ground, and isn't this dimension's matter made up of molecules? Isn't the air, which our human eyes can't see, made up of molecules? And in the air there are substances just like the air, numbering in the hundreds of millions, that are distributed all throughout the Three Realms. It's just that eyes cannot see molecules and the smaller particles, though everything in this dimension is packed full of them. Mankind is buried in the piles of molecules and smaller particles. The surface forms in the human world are different forms made up of surface matter composed of molecules. Some of the forms were made by gods, some by man. The ones made by man are things such as this building. The ones made by gods are: water, rocks, soil, the air, metals, plants, animals, and human beings, as well as the stars in the sky and the earth. Human beings are merely perceiving the world from within the dimension made up of this layer of particles, and perceiving the cosmos from inside this very narrow dimension. The heaven and earth that are in human beings' minds are not the true heaven and earth. Earth, like the air, is composed of molecules, so in gods' eyes, all of it is earth. [Looking at it from] the microcosmic level, the dimension made up of this level of particles is in fact earth, whereas the realm made up of more microcosmic particles is the true heavens.
A moment ago I said that Indians were created by a Buddha. The way they talk and carry themselves is very much like a Buddha. In the past the resemblance was even stronger. In modern society things have gotten a bit jumbled due to issues with race. The Arabs and the Chinese are close to India, so a large portion of the Indians of recent times are of mixed race. In the past the Indian race was very pure. You can see what I described in Indian ethnic dance. Their hand gestures and movements closely resemble the mudras and postures of a Buddha. I find them very, very similar. (Applause)
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Adramaleck
Feb 28 2005, 07:53 PM
I have ADD, does that count?
nixxie
Feb 28 2005, 08:21 PM
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Because evolution takes hundreds of thousands of years, not 48 hours.
I hate to disagree on this but there was a case of an African lady going to bed one night and waking up white at the turn of the century. She was killed by her husband, he thought she was an intruder.
She had a rare genetic condition that causes the skin pigmentation to 'bleed' out, turning the person into an effective albino.
forgotfel
Feb 28 2005, 09:25 PM
This is something that I have rarely thought about, but a lot of these explanations make a lot of sense. The evolution to fit the climate and surroundings is the most logical to me.
Irish
Feb 28 2005, 09:51 PM
Ok, But what happened to Michael Jackson.
final flight
Feb 28 2005, 10:07 PM
He is just undecided.
sultanmuratova
Mar 1 2005, 03:50 PM
the best explanation i have heard about micheal jackson is that he had some disease that influences his pigmentation and that he was slowly turning white anyway so he decided to treat his skin so the process would go faster.
dont know if its true
Athenian
Mar 1 2005, 03:53 PM
QUOTE(sultanmuratova @ Mar 1 2005, 03:50 PM)
the best explanation i have heard about micheal jackson is that he had some disease that influences his pigmentation and that he was slowly turning white anyway so he decided to treat his skin so the process would go faster.
dont know if its true
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How about this... Cosmetic surgery.
bigdog112
Mar 1 2005, 05:19 PM
QUOTE(ChariotInTheSky @ Feb 27 2005, 04:09 AM)
I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about, and though I know want nothing to do with the religion (or god in general) I can tell you that I haven't ever heard that. Sounds like someone mixed the battles of Cain and Abel with something that couldn't possibly be true. Jehovah or God's Judaic religion as well as his Ismalic one, only exists because of the "founding father" of Abrahamic religions, Abraham. The founder of sorts of the scriptures would be Moses, who is believed to have scribed them in 2nd millenium BC.
These "facts" bare no witness to the tale you speak of however, and I don't find it consistent with the theory that these were the ways the Jewish and or Arabic races were founded. (Especially considering there is reason to believe that there were people speaking semitic languages as early as the 3rd millenium BC. Also that story assumes that the cultures were founded at the same time as it seems. This is also incorrect: "Allah" didn't reveal himself to Muhammad until sometime around 600 BC while Moses writings would have formed that society WELL before this. On top of that, neither of these could have come from any line of an early descendent of Adam. That time span is too great, even if you foolishly ignore evolution.
In other words, where in the world did this tale come from? And even more importantly, where does the 9/11 tale appear in the bible?
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I didn’t say any thing about 9/11 being in the bible I said my grandmother told me about the (warring brothers) after 9/11 since Arabs became a topic of every ones conversations. I was just using Allah as a reference to Arab society since religion is always the first thing to appear in a newly formed society. The real story doesn’t talk about any realigns just talks about how the brothers founded two very different societies.
I am not trying to make you believe what I herd I am just telling a story nothing more nothing less.
Me_Again
Mar 1 2005, 05:26 PM
everyone gets to experience being, everything...thats my answer to why there are differences.
Loaded_Revolver
Mar 2 2005, 07:08 AM
It's all enviromental, there isn't even a standard for what any particular race should look like, because even within that race there are variations. Racially speaking, Cherokee's are the same race as the natives living in South America, even though they are built differently... Many South American natives living at higher altitudes are barrel chested to accomidate greater lung capasity in order to take deeper breaths. Africans living on the savannahs of east Africa are much taller and thinner than Africans living in the jungles of west Africa, it makes them much better runners.
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P.S. Arabic looking people are semitic, as are Jews. I believe that we are a separate race . The US Census bureau counts semitic people as white/caucasian
That isn't true. Semites are the race of people native to the middle east... Jews aren't a race, Jews can be anyone that decides they wanna be a Jew and can convert to it. The Prime Minister of Israel is no more a semite than Mohammed Ali is... It's like all those white South Africans one day claiming they are negro.
The U.S. census counts these people as caucasian because in most cases people claiming to be semites ARE in fact caucasian, and of European decent. The same goes for the members of the Nation Of Islam. Most Jews and Muslims living in the U.S. are not semetic.
roppi311
Mar 7 2005, 03:43 PM
QUOTE(JayMan895 @ Feb 26 2005, 12:57 AM)
People evolved to better suit their climate and surroundings..thats all it really is i think.
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i'd say that too
greychupa
Mar 7 2005, 04:28 PM
QUOTE(William_22312 @ Feb 26 2005, 01:15 AM)
Latitude has a direct relationship with skin pigment and actually intelligence as well....doesnt explain why asians have Almond shaped eyes though. Decendant of Northern Eskimo types? Thoughts
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Eh.. You do know that there are 3 big groups of types of people, The Negroids, The Mongoloid, and the Europide race. Mongoloid race includes Japanese, Chinese, Mongolian, South American, Inuit, and so on. The 'almond' shaped eye is in fact just a piece of skin starting from the eyecorner and running across the eyelid, wich makes it look like the eye is almond shaped, or 'slit eyes'. Some negroids have it too, even some peoples in Europe have it. It's a genetic mutation.
LordBailey
Mar 11 2005, 08:28 PM
QUOTE(jenk @ Feb 25 2005, 09:05 PM)
The skin is due to pigment in the skin. Since populations used to be isolated they would evolve their own traits. For example, the trait for any eye color but brown was an isolated mutation that spread across europe. Now that our races have a large amount of intermixing the traits will all be blended (I'm not surprised to see an Asian with blue eyes). The first humans most likely were black but when they migrated their pigments changed to reflect the sun and heat they meet in their new lands. *note Inuit lack almost any body hair, this is funny becuase one would assume that you would need more hair.

Thats one crappy random mutation.
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The answer to that is simple as well. Mankind is no longer adapting to their environment. Recently (ie last 10,000 years or so), Mankind has begun to adapt to his technology instead. The Inuit people has less hair because they have worn heavy fur and animal skins for so long. The body longer needs the hair to keep warm, and thus they lose their hair.
Vice Versa in the Mediteranean Sea areas. The weather was warmer, which required them to wear less furs. This in turn, means that they adapted a different way, and they kept their hair for protection during colder nights and/or winters.
Another example is of eye color. Blue eyes were a common trait from most Germanic tribes (ie Northern Tribes). This is simply because during long winters and colder times (especially in Scandanavian areas) snow covered the ground most of the time. Snow, being white of course, reflects light, making this brighter than they should be. The blue, ice color eyes, adapted to also reflect the glare from the sun on the snow. Dark eyes absorb more light, and light eyes reflect it.
Pretty simple actually