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Saru
I heard some time ago, of an experiment in which Gravity was reduced in a controlled environment, through the use of very fast spinning semi-conductors. Does anyone know anything else about this ? Was the experiment genuine proof of the possiblity of Anti Gravity, or was it never really conclusive ?

Anti gravity would have huge impact on modern day society. Imagine being able to make objects stay in mid air permanantly, floating cities could even be built to tackle the earth's population problem.
Guest
There is a guy called John Searle, He was supposed to invented what he calls the Searle Disk. This disk is supposed to be an antigravity machine which works on magnetic fields created by a spinning ball bearing like machine. This machine along with antigravity qualities could be used for free energy.

Look this guy up. He was apparently thrown into jail about ten years ago and all his research and equipment was taken by the government. I used to have a friend who had a number of his books and had gone to see him a few times when he came to Australia to do talks. My friend was a bit fanatical and sadly John Searle in his books always seems to keep the key elements of his discovery secret, you can't help but wonder is he full of it! Although he has an interesting story to tell and the science doesn't seem too far fetched. It all sounds possable.

ParanormalNexus
Dowdy
i'm afarid anti-gravity is science fact, well, according to www.futurehorizons.net in which you can supposedly BUY a 3 ft triangular antigravity disc. i think it's bull. the site has other bull stuff like time travel plans and devices, space age weapons, free energy etc.
you can buy almost everything there.
Saru
LOL

There are some really ridiculous pieces of kit up for sale in some places. I saw a program once where this strange UFO cult had a shop, selling all sorts of UFO related rubbish. There was one device described as a "UFO Detector", which was very little more than a box with some wires wrapped around it. They were flogging it for over $300. In addition to that they had a collection of "Alien Physcic Guns", which for $250, would fire Physcic energy at Aliens to kill them.

I don't know who I'd be more scared of, the aliens, or the folk who run that shop.
Homer
SaRuMaN

You mean My $300 UFO Detector and $250 Alien Physcic Gun is a fake? Well dont tell anyone, I just bought some stock in their company wink2.gif

Homer
Dowdy
the UFO detector is actually real!! 'cause what it does is detect large metallic objects in the sky including aeroplanes.

www.futurehorizons.net has some real stuff as well like hover boards similar to the ones used in the opening ceremony in the sydney olympics and the jetpack similar to the one NASA created
Homer
I did find a little something about John Searl in an article I read recently:

Professional Engineer
25 Commins Street Onerahi,Whangarei,
New zealand.
The Ether Vortex Turbine by J.R.R. Searl, England.
The Barret Report issued by P.L. Barret Bsc.

In 1949, Mr J.R.R. Searl was employed by the midlands electricity board as a electronic and electrical fitter. He was enthusiastic about the subject of electricity,though he had no formal education on the subject other than what is required by the job.Unhindered by conventional ideas about electricity, he carried out his own investigation into the subject. During work on electrical motors and generators,he noticed that a small EMF elector magnetic field ,was produced by spinning metal parts the negative towards the outside and positive towards the rotational axis.In 1950 he experimented with rotating slip rings and measured a small EMF on a conventional meter. He also noticed that when the rings were spinning freely and no current was taken,his hair bristled.

His conclusions were that free electrons in the metal were spun out by centrifugal force, a centripetal force being produced by the static field in the metal.He decided to build a generator based on the principal. It had a segmented rotor disc,passing through electromagnets at its periphery. the electromagnets were energized from the rotor,and were intended to boost the EMF. By 1952 the first generator had been constructed and was about three feet in diameter. It was tested in the open by searl and a friend.

The armature was set in motion by a small engine.The device produced the expected electrical power, but at a unexpectedly high potential. at relatively low armature speeds an electrical potential of the order of 10 5 (ten to the power of five) was produced, as indicated by the static effects on near objects. A characteristic crackling and the smell of ozone supported his conclusion.The really unexpected then occurred.While still speeding up the generator lifted and rose to a height of fifty feet,breaking the union between itself and the engine. Here it stayed for a while still speeding up and surrounding itself with a pink halo,this indicated ionization of the air at a much reduced pressure of about 1-3 mm Hg.More interesting was the side effect,causing local radio receivers to go on their own accord! This could have been due to ionizing discharge electromagnetic induction.Finally and perhaps thankfully the whole generator accelerated at a fantastic rate and is thought to have gone off into space. Since that day Searl had made some 10 or more small flying craft some of which have been similarly lost,and developed a form of control. Larger craft have also been built - some 12 ft and two 30ft in dia. The antics of his machines have given rise to much speculation as to the origin of so called "flying saucers" specially in the area of Warminster in Wilshire.

Interesting.

Homer
Saru
I've also heard something about saucer shaped Anti-Gravity craft being behind many UFO sightings, and there's no reason to suggest that this isn't the case. Since Anti-Gravity has more or less been proven to be possible, then there's no reason why someone could not have developed it in secret. It would likely have very significent uses in aircraft and the like, and I'm sure the secret black projects of the Government wouldn't hesitate to develop it if they thought it would be a benefit.

Did Searl's experiments ever get scientifically investigated ? It seems that he managed some considerably fantastic feats. It's a wonder we haven't heard more about his technology since his original experiments. Or perhaps it was all confiscated as soon as the Government realised it's potential. Who knows.
Homer
SaRuMan

This was the rest of the article I read about John Searl:
One wonders why Searl has not come to the notice of scientists and the public at large. The fact is that "he has;but for fear of being ridiculed, people keep the knowledge or interest to themselves. the public has been educated to scoff at the subject of flying saucers and the reported behavior of the things cannot be explained on current scientific theory. Such " difficult to explain" topics must be given the "no comment" treatment so not to upset the uncertain structure of present scientific theory. Searl's records do show however that his efforts have not gone unnoticed. Government departments and people of all classes and education know about him. Some have attempted to steal the idea, but their thinking along the lines of electromagentic theory and the law of conservation of mass and energy,has misled the more confused of them.This narrow thinking has made many to conclude that searl is a crank or imposter. Also some are prejudiced in their attitude that new ideas are the prerogative of a hierarchy of intellectuals.

Thats all I got for now.

Homer
Homer
This is a part of an article from before John Searl:
"...sure, antigravity has been around for a long time. Townsend-Brown had a model flying saucer flitting around a may pole in 1928. He used the Bifeld-Brown effect, which involves the behavior of a charged condenser in a magnetic field. It is the free energy device, almost...." The National Socialists in Germany took the work of Townsend-Brown and had operational flying saucers in WW 2. A book on this has been published in Germany and has gone through three editions. It is, of course, not available in the U.S." (9/27/'76 Letter)
CRITIQUE Magazine Said: "Dr. Mason Rose of the University for Social Research, published a paper describing the discoveries of Dr. Paul Alfred Biefeld, astronomer and physicist at the California Institute for Advanced Studies, and his assistant, Townsend Brown. In 1923 Biefeld discovered that a heavily charged electrical condensor moved towards its positive pole when suspended in a gravitational field. He assigned Brown to study the effect as a research project. A series of experiments showed Brown that the most efficient shape for a field propelled condensor was a disk with a central dome. In 1926 T. Brown published his paper describing all the construction features and flight characteristics of a flying saucer....
Saru
Its interesting to think that Anti Gravity has been around for 80+ years, but I would have expected there to be have been more evidence of it by now. If people in the 1920's were able to create an Anti-Gravity saucer, then 80 years on it should be commonplace. It is likely in my opinion, that many current Black Projects are utilising anti-gravity in some way, many UFO's have exhibited abilities that could be attributed to an object with the ability to ignore gravity. Anti-Gravity could also be put to use in hundreds of other applications as well, including a possible means with which to control a Nuclear Fusion reaction for power generation purposes. If Anti-Gravity was to ever become used in every day applications, it would likely revolutionise most technologies in use in the world today.
SpaceyKC
Since gravity has long been my enemy, I would certainly relish the idea of having my own anti-gravity chamber!!!After a long stressful day, to come home and relax-take a load off, so to speak!! ;D
Homer
SaRuMaN,

I know what you mean, it seems like after 80 years of discovery and further experiments, they would have found a way to make it more commonplace, even perhaps integrating it into everyday life. It's very realistic to assume these black projects are experimenting on anti-gravity.

Norabdawg,

I know what you mean about gravity being an enemy original.gif
If you could see several hundred years into the future, do you think you would literally see floating cities, to cope with Earths increasing populations?
Mentalcase
I seen some Physics show/interview the guys were saying (in theory) that there are spots in outerspace that have vast anti-gravity fields.  I'm not sure what theory, maybe i can find out more about this.
Homer
MC

I must have misunderstood you. Outerspace is a vast anti-gravity field.

Homer
odinsupreme
So Anti-Gravity produces free energy. Well it is logical that we have no anti gravity, if we could produce energy for free, what would the poil companies say? There are much more resources for free energy, but they will never, or not in the near future, be used. If we used it, the whole economy would crash.

Odin Supreme  8)
Mentalcase
Homer,
 I forget what that show was about, it was on cnn a couple of months ago. I think they were talking about white holes. Anyways, check this link out http://www.handpen.com/Bio/gravity.htm
Homer
MC,

I'm unclear where you get the relationship between white holes and anti-gravity.

White holes are a perfectly valid mathematical solution to the equations of general relativity, but that doesn't mean that they actually exist in nature. In fact, they almost certainly do not exist, since there's no way to produce one. (Producing a white hole is just as impossible as destroying a black hole, since the two processes are time-reversals of each other).

On the other hand, anti-gravity does exist, although humanities knowledge of it, and use of it, are questionable.

Homer[glow=color,strength,width]
Tommy
  The discovery of element 115 supposedly holds the key "of manipulating gravity and space/time" for the use of aircrafts. Find out more about Ununpentium here...  http://www.boblazar.com/protected/element.htm#Periodic%20Table%20Bookmark:
Magikman
Tommy,

 The only problem with your link is that Lazar is a goof and a fraud. Read the USA in possession of Alien Technology? thread in the GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACIES category for more information. I provide a link there that exposes Lazar. Here is a little bit more information for you to consider;

 "Ununpentium is the systematic name for an as-yet undiscovered element. There's no info on WebElements which is usually fairly up to date. Element 115 is straddled by Ununhexium and Ununquadium, so I guess you expect something between the two in the way of properties. There have only been three atoms of elements 118, 116, and 114 made (decomposition) all with very short lifetimes."

 Here's a link to the Webelements site. Pay attention to the notations at the bottom of the page.

http://www.webelements.com/webelements/index.html

MAGIKMAN
Tommy
Thanks for clearing that up Magikman,  grin2.gif
       
I originally found the rumour of element 115 on a government conspiracy website...(http://www.abovetopsecret.com/) :original.gif

But if the properties for 115 were true, then you can see why the Government would want to keep it 'under wraps' from everyone else.


BTW  CONGRADULATIONS ON MAKING YOUR 300TH POST grin2.gif grin2.gif
Magikman
Tommy,

 Yes, there is great truth in what you say. You must remember though, anything & everything is possible. That is hardly the basis for credibility. You are the ultimate determination as to what you want to believe. I just figured it would benefit you to see the entire picture.  wink2.gif

 Many thanks for your noticing my 'milestone'. Chatty little devil, aren't I? grin2.gif I was so busy spouting off, I lost track. tongue.gif

MAGIKMAN
Magikman
Tommy,

  Here's a more detailed and concise thrashing of Bob Lazar by a "real life" physicist. He goes into more detail on element 115, also;

http://www.serve.com/mahood/lazar/critiq.htm

MAGIKMAN
Tommy
Magikman,
       an interesting read. Thanks for the link. original.gif original.gif
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