Now before you answere the questions lets think of the facts.

buried you have a 0 % chance of revival
Cremated, you have a 0% of revival
Cryogenically frozen, There is a chance that you will be revived, its definitly the better option

Now personally im paying for Cryonics because there is real evidence that you can preserve the brain well enough and we have already frozen a brain of a cat for seven hours and it began working again, thats just one example.

A funeral can cost JUST AS MUCH as cryonics, but with a funeral there is no chance of coming back... So what have you got to lose? I mean if your dead.. Then you wont care anyway if it dont work and if it works then you have everything to gain.

We could be only 20-30 years away from cryonics working, isnt it worth a try?

There is plenty of evidence to support cryonics and the Technology that is being researched today will make it happen, such as Nanotechnology for repairing cells and Biotechnology and information technology ( implants )

Im really suprised there isnt that many people that are signing up, is it lack of public awareness? Belief in afterlife? Money?

I picked Cryonics! It would be a crime to denie future generations my Wisdom, Charisma, Intelligence, Humor and Good looks *gives a dazzling smile*

If anyone would like Information on this you can go here http://www.alcor.org/

That is one of the TOP facilities and most expensive, There are others around the U.S that cost a hell of a lot less

Theres one problem that Ive just thought of with Cryonics, Suppose it did work... Would any of your known family use croynics.

But then, Even if croynics works we are reversing damage so your family may have reached the point where age reversal is possible, I mean I would assume that would be the scenario if revival were achieved.

But there is still a risk that all your family wont make it and dont choose cryonics.

So thats looking at it from a different perspective, I guess..

Well I still have a long life to live hopefully and I`m not really thinking about what I want to happen to me when I die but since Im so young cyronics isn`t looking bad, having a chance to be brought back and to see the future would be amazing!

plenty of Media, video and audio here http://www.cryonics-europe.org/mediabb.htm

on the left.. wait for it to load

You cheater.

Don't you have to be frozen, before you die?

What about necromancers?

I choose Cryo.
I wanna be alive to see all the changes of the earth.

naa just stick me in the ground, i dont want to come back and deal with stupid people from the future. i only want to live once, cuz if u live like me once is enough baby.

That is the way to go! Leave one's imprint on history and then farewell! What could be better?

I hope the fools in the future have fun with their frozen zombie vegetables.

see we know what were talkin a bout. i mean just how much troubble would it be to get ajusted to ur new life? pffffffffftttt naa ill make friends with the worms.

You are not going to make friends with anything, you will be NOTHING, you wont even experience nothing.. It will like before you were born, no existence, you will miss everything, no actually you wont even miss it. just oblivion lol

It probably wont be that much trouble getting used to new life. I mean it depends if your interested in the future really... I am certainly interested in how the future is going to be with all these emerging technologies, the world would probably be almost unrecognizable and there is probably going to be a lot more stuff to do!

Space travel is definitly number 1 on my list to do !

LoL, how do you know. When you die, can I display your frozen corpse in my living room? Don't worry, you'll get it back.

Because it makes sense and untill proven otherwise, its correct. As we know once the brain is dead, we are daed Like I said, Imagin before you were born... It will be the exact same. Ever lost Consciousness? I have and it was utterly nothing, If I didnt wake up I wouldnt of cared at the time and I didnt even prepare to shut off, it happened without even knowing it was going to happen, Could be simular to dying

I dont plan on dying for a few thousand years or longer so no..

I'm all for cryogenics(or whatever its called).
As a techie and philosopher at heart, I would look forward to being revived 500 years in the future. That's just me, and I know it's not for everyone.

That about sums you for me, thanks.

Eh?

I put cremation, but now that I think about it, I think cryogenics might be the way to go. I am just dying, no pun intended, to find out what happens in the future. If nothing happens and the world ends before they can wake me up, then I wouldn't even know, so it wouldn't make a difference.

I didn't even think about space travel, I would really love to see where we go with that.

Well I think theres nothing to lose as it costs around the same as a funeral anyway...

You have more chance with cryonics.

http://www.cryonics.org/reports/Dog_Thor.html

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You can read the rest at that link

sad story

Let's see here..........

The world as it is.....is already overpopulated. So the solution to this problem is to freeze yourself until a time when technological advance allows you to be brought back to life.

At the given rate of technological advance, and the trend in increase of population.......


DO THE MATH

As a country gets more developed the population actually levels off and stops rapidly increasing in its population. infact Europe population is declining, while 3rd world are going up...

Also earth isnt already over populated and we still have The UNIVERSE to populate. There is plenty of space, I promise

If humans want to survive, we have to keep on populating and spreading out from the planet

Sorry, but I don't buy that in the least bit. It is a well documented fact that throughout the history of this planet, the species on the top of the food chain routinely becomes so overpopulated that either they run themselves out of resources, or they are annihalated by some cataclysmic event.

Either way, they experience a drop in population that way, or extinction altogether.

I'm not talking about countries. I'm talking about people.

Care to take a look at the level of this world's population increase over the past 1,000 years? I'll bet you'll be surprised at the incremental increase over the past 50 years alone.

I didn't even bother putting anything down, i'm a teenager, thinking about death makes me depreesed/worried

You're a teenager. Thinking about death should be the last thing on your mind anyway even if you were 150 years old.

Live life. Spending life worrying about its end is only wasting itself.

there you go


It doesnt matter if you are a teenager, life can end at any time.

But if everyone in the world thought, Well I dont have to fix all this aging and diseases until im around 80, We will get nowhere like that.

I'd like to know the source on where that graphic came from. Do you have a link I could check out?

http://www.prb.org/

I would rather be toasted. Just cause when I die I want to stay dead. Be part of the universe.

People have been dying forever, why change the trend? Whatsmore trying to cheat death is admitting that you fear it.

The average life span TREND that used to be 35?. Why bother trying to make it longer?

150,000 People die a day and I dont want to be in that statistic.

I mean, it takes 20 years just to develop and grow... to get educated, sometime this is longer and that means you only have 60+ years left of your expected life span, which another 40 years of it you are expected to work!.

I dont just 1 career, I want several. I want to try many sports, I want to learn many things, I want to live in almost every country in the world for a few years... I want to explorer and help colonize planets

That I cannot do in the current expected life span!

Hey Vox, great statements. I know where your coming from, but let me do a "slight" rebutal.

You said: "People have been dying forever, why change the trend?"
Well, I don't know how old you are, but if we kept the same trend from 100 years ago I would have been dead when I was 6(due to a cogenital defect that was corrected with modern medical techniques and lethal if not)
Above all that, many others have the grace of 5-10-20 years longer to live because of medical advances and personal lifestyle changes. I find that not only significant, but useful, as we often grow in maturity as we age; thus a longer life, generally, provides for greater wisdom to pass on to others.

You also said: "Whatsmore trying to cheat death is admitting that you fear it."
There should most certainly be some level of fear in death, else one would quickly die from even common day-to-day encounters. In other words, though death should not be feared, it most especially should not be welcome and avoided when possible.
To have absolutely no fear of death would put one in situations which are beyond common sense.
YOU may "know" what happens to your "life" after someone plugs a .357 into your brain, but most everyone else does not. So, we choose life as we know it and desire extensions of it.

At least with being creamated you cannot turn into a killer zombie.

Okay now we're getting into an area that I have both some personal, AND professional experience with.

But I'll talk about the personal aspect. A few years ago, both of my grandparents became incapacitated to the point that neither of them could take care of themselves or each other. Although my grandfather was in a mental state at this time, due to several small CVA's (strokes) that he was not real coherent most of the time, my grandmother WAS coherent. Because of physical limitations and the desire to not leave her husband's side, she agreed to stay with him at the nursing home.

None of the family wanted them there, but none of the family had the means to care for grandpa, and gramms just wouldn't have it any other way.

But I visited her regularly. And about 3 months before she died, we sat outside on a park bench and talked for a while. She kept telling me about how someone she knew in the home had died. And she said it with a smile on her face.

It disturbed me. And I finally said, "Gramms, I am uncomfortable with the way you are talking. You are talking like you want to die."

"I don't want to die. I want to live.", she said.

"I don't understand." was my reply.

And then my grandmother said something that will stick with me forever. And I'll try and word it here the best I can.

"TJ, I want to live. But what is living? Does living entail being a productive member of society? Does living entail reminiscing about how you were a productive member of society...but now you can do the things you want to do? Or does living entail that you hang on with every last thread when almost no part of your 'living' body will physically work anymore?....................Death is a release."

She was a devoutly religious woman. A good woman. She would never have considered suicide and her only question to her creator was simply, "I'm ready, I think. Can I come home?"

As far as I know, she was the most peaceful person in the world and would never harm anyone. But if you would have come to her with your 'extension of life' idea at the moment I spoke with her, I'm thinking she would have used every last ounce of her being to lay you out on your ass.

Life extension..

Its not about extending life so people can live another 20 years with Frailty, pain, bad memory and disease. its about an extra 20 or more years of HEALTHY life.

When a person becomes frail, lonely and just basicly waiting to die... Why would they wish for a longer life?

But if you said, I could make you like a 20 year old again...

Im not convinced they would say no

And how, pray tell, would that be accomplished?

Most likely, it would have something to do with stem cell therapy. It can't yet be done as far as I know.

There will probably be a lot of Technologies involved in age reversal.

obviously, Stem cells would be a candidate for some reversal of age related problems, such as rejouvinating the major organs, which at the moment we are still in early stages but breakthroughs are always happening in regrowing tissue for the heart, the brain, kidneys and other parts of the body, including skin replacement.

Then as we move past the golden era of Biotechnology, nanotechnology should be quite a mature technology will some very good application already in use within a few years.

Nanotechnology is where serious Life extension and repair will become possible

You can read about SENS here http://www.gen.cam.ac.uk/sens/AdGbio.htm

You can check his article out - 'We will be able to live to 1,000'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm

and you can talk with us and Aubrey de grey about it if you like at; http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=SF&f=173

The other thing I have...comes partly from my own belief system, and partly from what I've witnessed in my own profession.

I volunteered at a hospice center for a while, and still do occasionally. For those who don't know, a hospice center is a place for those to go who are terminally ill and who will most likely die within a week or two of being admitted.

Most of the places are almost like hotel rooms. It's a way to try and make the dying as comfortable as they can possibly be. It is truly a good thing and I would urge anyone that has the time to volunteer.

In my profession, I've seen a lot of lives end in pain, so I guess this was my way of being in a bit of a position to control that a little bit. To ease the pain a bit. The experiences I've had are incredible to say the least. I've heard more about life than hundreds of people would live themselves.

I cannot tell you the number of times I've heard the phrase, "It's so beautiful" uttered just before someone expires.

Now, the unbelievers will say that it's neurons firing at the moment of death. Extra brain activity. But for myself, I AM a believer both because of my faith, and because of the things I've seen. For those who don't believe, that's okay. Believe what you want.

But as for me, I know that if I were 80 years old and I had a choice between going home and staying here?

Stamp my ticket home.

Quite an easy choice...

Ok fine...

But whether you believe me or not, its not important.

You see, This is the problem medicTJ, its not going to be like " well im 80 now, I think I am just gonna die "

In order to die, you are gonna have to willingly say " NO " to treatment.

let me give you a quick scenario. It wont be as simple as saying, "hey I wont take my magic pill that makes me young"

When you get older, you will gradually become frailer, Lets say that your heart is failing in 20 years time when you are about 55. Now doctors can totally cure your heart disease AND return your heart to a full healthy 20 year old heart.

now tell me, Will you say no to an injection of stem cells that would totally cure all the symtoms of shortness of breath, fatigue and all the other problems?

We can go to every different major organ buddy. Are you prepared to say to your family, I dont want treatment and I want to stay ill?

You have to look at this in a different perspective, when its no longer about just getting rid of symptoms ( relieving pain ) but CURING problems, rejouvinating EVERY organ and tissue in the body.

SO, You are telling me that you are going to REFUSE medical treatment so your grandkids or kids and family cant be with you?

Even tho Doctor over there can totally save you, You are going to say no?...

Im sorry, but when the time comes its going to be one easy decision for you.

You betcha!

Did you read the story about my grandmother? She wanted to die. I was disturbed at first but after I had talked with her about her situation and our own faith which we shared together, I wasn't disturbed at all.

I wept when she died, but honestly, I wept more because I knew she was finally happy than from not being able to see her again.

Because of my faith I know I will see her again.

As for my time on this Earth, I will do my best to fulfill what I have been called on to do. Again, this is a belief of my own. Go ahead and ridicule me all you want. If you want to prolong your existence, then that's up to you. For myself, I believe I've found something even better. You have to do what's best for you.

I will live my life to its fullest. But when I'm about to be called home, I'm not gonna ask dad if I can stay out and play with my friends a bit longer, trust me.

Your Life would of already been over if you were born in the 1800's since the average life span was 35

Im Sorry you havnt got much to look forward in life too, Shame.

I respect your beliefs, but If you can help it... I dont believe you will give up life as easy as you are claiming, I just dont see it happening.

Im trying not to be too ignorant about this but its human nature to want to survive and survive you will ( if you will long enough )

Some people don't want a longer life Whoa, they are perfectly happy with the time they are allotted.

Hey, I really need to do some research on how the older generation would react if they were to be offered a rejouvination pill lets say.. to make them and their friends young and healthy again.

Im actually really interested now that MedicTJ has made this claim that old people will probably reject such treatment to make them healthy

I'll do some research and try find some results on if OLD people would want to be young and healthy again if they could

You know, I'm happy to debate with you on this subject. But not when you say I said something I didn't.

I think you owe me an apology dude.

I never said anything of the sort.

I can tell you from my experience, that all of the elderly individuals that I have conversed with have made it clear that they are perfectly happy with the lives they have lived. They ask for no more, or less. This is just from my experience though.

For the record...............

I never said that old people would reject "Whoa"'s idea.

I simply related a conversation between my grandmother and myself. And said that I personally would reject his idea.

For him to twist what I said and turn it into looking like I said that all old people would reject it is completely and utterly uncalled for and wrong.

Sorry

I still think you might of brought up a good point here and im not sure if there ever has been any survey of what the older generation would think of them being able to have a body and mental state of a young adult again

Okay, now let's get back to the debate at hand.

Here's what I want to know.

Would there be some miracle pill or procedure in the future that would eliminate both physical and mental pain?

Obviously we gonna have to try and think outside the box here about what life extension would mean and how it would be implemented to extend lives.

Basicly, Like I said at first within 15 - 20 years we will just see the partially and full rejouvanation of heart muscle, kidneys, brain tissue ( for degenerative disease) and cures for autoimmune diseases.

So It will very much be like we all do today, We get a bad heart or cancer, we give treatment. Only the future treatment wont cause side effects and will actually cure rather than supress symtoms of the disease.

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Now the first big increase in life expectancy will come from simple tests at doctors, Im talking about your local doctors being able to test you for everything right there and then.

Example. you walk into your doctors he takes a bit of blood or saliva and within 10 minutes you will find out if you have Cancer, diseases, genetic Disorder, virus, infection etc...

So through biochips and Nanotechnology we will see a significant increase in human life expectancy in the developed world. So basicly early detection.



Now this is just the start... and it already means saving MILLIONS of lives and 1 of the biggest killers of elderly is ... cancer.

Tests will take minutes and results take no more than an hour.


Then as we move into the Molecular age ( nanotech ) we could see some more radical things such as, nanobots curing and repairing cells in your body all the time.

Respirocytes
http://www.foresight.org/Nanomedicine/Respirocytes.html

Another early application that if you were to replace 10% of your blood with these, you would be able to hold your breath for upto 4 hours..

Just all these applications coming together brings amazing power and longevity to a person. Where we wont just be healthy, We will be " better than well"