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Some of you will like it... and undoubtedly others will not, but it provides the best explanation yet for the NWO theories and why people believe in them, it's fairly long but interesting so stick with it... http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html
I so far greatly appreciate this link. It is very entertaining to say the least...... I believe one world order can exist and might be in the works in a round about way. but I do not think it will happen in my lifetime. although as much as I could say I would like some of the benefits.....the rest scares the hell out of me!!! 
i think the nwo is real , but like the artical stated becareful what u read, and investagate the facts.
complete rubbish-this clown lumps everyone into one group labeled paranoid without giving reasons or any sort of explanation-look at this segment and play close attention to his comment on the authors theories-
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also notice how he comments on the author(although rather briefly) then "jumps" or switches immediately to icke and his alien garbage without starting another paragraph-
imo the paranoia seems to be in the websites or skeptics refusal to percieve his enviorment-he claim outright there is no world order but i am willing to bet he has a social security card in his wallet
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Here is a typical set of the PCT's notions, extolled in a review of an author who claims he has exposed the Illuminati:
Who really controls world events from behind-the-scene? Years of extensive research and investigation have gone into this massively documented work [Bloodlines of the Illuminati]. In almost 600 pages, Fritz Springmeier discloses mind-boggling facts and never before revealed truths about the top Illuminati dynasties. Discover the amazing role these bloodlines have played--and are now wielding--in human history, with family names such as Astor, DuPont, Kennedy, Onassis, Rockefeller, Rothschild, Russell, Van Duyn, and Krupp. You'll also learn of the secretive, Chinese Li family, which operates with impunity in the U.S.A. and around the world. Along the way you'll find out why President John F. Kennedy and actress Grace Kelly were killed; who created the United Nations; who controls the two major U.S. political parties; how the Rothschilds invented and control modern-day Israel; who secretly founded false religions such as the Jehovah Witnesses; and much, much more. A literal encyclopedia of rare, unbelievable information!*
The "information" is certainly unbelievable, but it is not rare enough. Another PCT "sect" holds that it is the aliens who rule the Illuminati who rule the world, etc.
David Icke
Here is a typical set of the PCT's notions, extolled in a review of an author who claims he has exposed the Illuminati:
Who really controls world events from behind-the-scene? Years of extensive research and investigation have gone into this massively documented work [Bloodlines of the Illuminati]. In almost 600 pages, Fritz Springmeier discloses mind-boggling facts and never before revealed truths about the top Illuminati dynasties. Discover the amazing role these bloodlines have played--and are now wielding--in human history, with family names such as Astor, DuPont, Kennedy, Onassis, Rockefeller, Rothschild, Russell, Van Duyn, and Krupp. You'll also learn of the secretive, Chinese Li family, which operates with impunity in the U.S.A. and around the world. Along the way you'll find out why President John F. Kennedy and actress Grace Kelly were killed; who created the United Nations; who controls the two major U.S. political parties; how the Rothschilds invented and control modern-day Israel; who secretly founded false religions such as the Jehovah Witnesses; and much, much more. A literal encyclopedia of rare, unbelievable information!*
The "information" is certainly unbelievable, but it is not rare enough. Another PCT "sect" holds that it is the aliens who rule the Illuminati who rule the world, etc.
David Icke
also notice how he comments on the author(although rather briefly) then "jumps" or switches immediately to icke and his alien garbage without starting another paragraph-
imo the paranoia seems to be in the websites or skeptics refusal to percieve his enviorment-he claim outright there is no world order but i am willing to bet he has a social security card in his wallet
Sunofone, Do you want the Illuminati to rule the world? 
What I want wont change the fact that they do.
I kind of agree with Sunofone. I wouldn't really call him a clown but he does seem to be lacking quite a bit in some of his work. He also seems to focus too much on character assasination and other unimportant things like mental disorder as a way to expalin their beliefs instead of looking at the "facts" that they state and checking them out for himself to see if they hold up. I don't think I ever used that site for information, only out of curiousity of what is opinion is of certain things and what he's missing in some articles.
I am currently writing a guide to the NWO, and should be finished by the end of the week, in a article submitted to here. However it starts simple, and gets indepth. I'm trying to compile it all in one article, or more accurately updating one of the best NWO/Illuminati explanation by Myron C Fagan, for the 21st century. It is focused on people new to the NWO, but will also appeal to veterans of the theory/facts.
Hmm i'll look forward to reading that Blood Angel, im of two minds what exactly I think the NWO is and what it represents. So much misinformation floating around... 
Misinformation is a big problem with online and media formats of the NWO theory and facts. Alot of it is distorted by the non-aligned authors who only see it from their biased point of view. A few examples are those who see it as some sort of luciferian agenda (mainly hardcore christian authors), or some kind of jewish agenda. My article will have none of this, just the good stuff, free of discriminatory comments and preaching.
I will be looking forward to that too, though I'm starting to feel more drawn to investigating the Illuminati. Do you have any idea how long it will be?
A week, depends on how far i want to go...i do tend to ramble so expect it to be long...
I love that joke!
'Sorry, my wife tends to ramble...'
Has anyone heard it?
'Sorry, my wife tends to ramble...'
Has anyone heard it?
Hi again.
the illuminati, erm woo. well if any1 is wondering, they have a homepage:
www.illuminati.org
Its soo cool, not. y'know if they are gonna take over and they've been around for a long time, they sure are really crap at the whole world domination thing, i could take over better than them.
and i will, my group the err illuminpauli will take over and create a nwo and you shall all bow down to me..the lizard queen...er i mean king, yes king thats what i said
the illuminati, erm woo. well if any1 is wondering, they have a homepage:
www.illuminati.org
Its soo cool, not. y'know if they are gonna take over and they've been around for a long time, they sure are really crap at the whole world domination thing, i could take over better than them.
and i will, my group the err illuminpauli will take over and create a nwo and you shall all bow down to me..the lizard queen...er i mean king, yes king thats what i said
Ok so you start your own secret organisation to infilrate all govenrment s and create an NWO, then see how easy it is to create.
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Ok so you start your own secret organisation to infilrate all govenrment s and create an NWO, then see how easy it is to create.
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I have already done that, notice pricks like tony blair in the seat at parliament well thats me having fun with all of u, making the brits lives hell
mwa ha ha
ok seriously the illuminati have really got to buck up their ideas cos they havent got long before the world ends (2012 im betting on) so hurry up illuminati!!
Well I'm guessing they think the whole 2012 idea is complete BS as they defiantly planned that for 2013.
well im still hoping for 2012, they have all that preperation for it and i just cant wait to see them fail, it'll be like turing up for a concert and forgetting that your completely nude in front of the whole world watching
hurry up and take over already so that i can get back to living the same life as i always do ( in other words no amount of take over is going to change the way i live so ner ner ner ner ner)
Paul clitheroe
hurry up and take over already so that i can get back to living the same life as i always do ( in other words no amount of take over is going to change the way i live so ner ner ner ner ner)
Paul clitheroe
So you think they're just going to fail then do nothing? Just sit and sulk, reminiscing of the agenda that almost became reality? Or do you believe that during 2012 the Earth will be washed clean of all negative forces and so the NWO?
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Some of you will like it... and undoubtedly others will not, but it provides the best explanation yet for the NWO theories and why people believe in them, it's fairly long but interesting so stick with it... http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html
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thanks! It was an intersting read.
The article is full of gross generalities, infantile name calling and outright lies. He states there are real conspiracies led by evil and/or inept governments but hey, that's as far as it ever goes, and then they all get caught, but they really did mean well. Anything beyond that and you are wacko, buddy. Take his word for it. Lumping every crazy idea he can think of with researchers who have valid and factual evidence is the number one tactic of disinfo artists, and he really takes the prize for it here. Talk about historical distortions, he should really look in the mirror. 
Wake up! The Illuminati have got you under their thumbs already. Are you chip and pinned on your bankers/credit cards? So they have all they need to know about you and where you are in one chip!
Are you in debt(have loans) that say you MUST work now to pay them off or else!(so you get to be an under payed slave)
There is so much money in the world we could all be millionaires(but the 10% elite have most of it, they'll never be able to spend it)
Are you really free to be/do what you want?
Are you a slave to the TV/media hype that says you must have this and that to be hip! (They play on your lack of self worth that they provided through religion you sinner!)
Are all your basic needs like food/water/shelter/health community owned and run? Well they should be, not tied up to private profiteers.
Are you 'drip-fed' a pittance of a salary that isn't always enough to survive on, making it necessary for you to borrow money, when there is so much on this planet?
There are tons/tonnes of food thrown away every night from supermarkets because of over production, when half the worlds population is dying of starvation. This helps to keep profit margins high for the rich owners.
Their greed for money and power is literally killing millions of humans every year!!! And it isn't necessary, YOU HAVE LOST ALREADY UNLESS YOU FIGHT BACK NOW!
Are you in debt(have loans) that say you MUST work now to pay them off or else!(so you get to be an under payed slave)
There is so much money in the world we could all be millionaires(but the 10% elite have most of it, they'll never be able to spend it)
Are you really free to be/do what you want?
Are you a slave to the TV/media hype that says you must have this and that to be hip! (They play on your lack of self worth that they provided through religion you sinner!)
Are all your basic needs like food/water/shelter/health community owned and run? Well they should be, not tied up to private profiteers.
Are you 'drip-fed' a pittance of a salary that isn't always enough to survive on, making it necessary for you to borrow money, when there is so much on this planet?
There are tons/tonnes of food thrown away every night from supermarkets because of over production, when half the worlds population is dying of starvation. This helps to keep profit margins high for the rich owners.
Their greed for money and power is literally killing millions of humans every year!!! And it isn't necessary, YOU HAVE LOST ALREADY UNLESS YOU FIGHT BACK NOW!
I don't see what is so hard to believe about a New World Order...hell, ex-President Bush mentioned it a few times in his speeches...It is all about money...just follow the money. A country might appear sovereign on the surface but once it takes loans from foreign powers that country becomes beholden to that moneys influence in its society...Control the head and the body will follow...a famous Rothschild statement speaking of his loans to other countrys. The NWO is about less government and more corporate/private power. It is very simple. It IS happening these days and will continue to do so past our lifetimes...as far as the secret society stuff goes...that's where it becomes a little murky. Also...there is no one Mr.Big or Alien involvement...total crap. Best way to find out about it is follow the money, watch how it influences a countrys political system.
To back up what spycat says, the money trails are all provable and valid evidence of the NWO - it does NOT involve paranoia or any other ridiculous insinuation. These are the cold, hard facts - the sooner people stop sticking their heads in the sand, the sooner the standard of living can improve worldwide.
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