mr dollarhyde
Mar 3 2005, 09:29 PM

Do you think nasa is holding back the truth about what it's seen and found in space e.g ufo's following space missions , the craft that have been seen on the moon surface and then hushed up the alien face on mars and what does it know about the Russian Phobos missions that failed and the ufo that appears on the last photo from the second mission . I think they cover up whats going on what do you think????
PurpleStuart
Mar 3 2005, 09:43 PM
No i don't
Super Pancake
Mar 3 2005, 11:15 PM
Well it's their mission and they are not obligated to share anything so it is possible they could tell us whatever they want really, frankly the majority of the public don't care about the space programs.
But the Russians! Why would they collaborate with the U.S. to cover up Space travel, we hate them they hate us. So it's unlikely their lying to us.
aquatus1
Mar 4 2005, 12:18 AM
I can't think of a single reason why an agency so hurting for money and popular support would keep something like alien artifacts a secret.
jjtss
Mar 4 2005, 04:50 AM
QUOTE(Super Pancake @ Mar 3 2005, 11:15 PM)
Well it's their mission and they are not obligated to share anything so it is possible they could tell us whatever they want really, frankly the majority of the public don't care about the space programs.
But the Russians! Why would they collaborate with the U.S. to cover up Space travel, we hate them they hate us. So it's unlikely their lying to us.

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Beg your pardon but NASA is an employee of the US citizenry and they ARE SO obligated to disclose any information which does not jeopardize the security of the US. It's called Freedom of Information. and they wouldn't announce encounters with UFOs anymore than commercial airline pilots would because that would mean the end of their careers with a looney label.
twinstead
Mar 4 2005, 01:49 PM
One would think that they wouldn't release anything unless there was proof, but if there ever was proof they would shout it from the highest mountain. If tomorrow NASA announced they had found ancient cities on Mars the instant infusion of cash to the space program to mount a manned expedition would be enormous. Jobs, prestige, career advancement--all good stuff.
In my mind I just can't see any valid reason to keep something like that secret. And now since space travel is on the verge of becoming more international, the loss of face and embarrassment to NASA if China for example managed to discover something on the moon or Mars that NASA obviously knew about but kept secret would be a disaster.
et's daddy
Mar 4 2005, 02:06 PM
well i seem to remember ham radio operators used to be able to pick up radio transmissions during NASA space missions, and now they cant
is there a good reason for that ?
'we hate the Russians' ? not anymore we dont and im not so sure we ever did
seems hating the Russians was very good for our war machine companies
as far as China finding something that would embarass NASA, guess we have to wait and see.
though im not convinced that could happen. could be stopped atleast 2 ways
either sabotage on the Chinese space program, or if they get close NASA could decided to divulge some of their own info just to be 1st
also it seems so many of you think if NASA held a press conference today and stated beyond doubt that they found evidence of past humanoid life on Mars that the info would be accepted like they said they found a better recipe for apple pie

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twinstead
Mar 4 2005, 03:35 PM
The biggest problem is for people to get over their irrational distrust of NASA and be a little objective about the whole situation. I find it telling that most of the people who think NASA is holding back earth-shattering information are some of the same ones who think the moon landings were hoaxed.
NASA is not the only space organization on Earth, nor can it control or 'sabotage' other nation's space programs at will. Sooner or later, if in fact there are huge discoveries being hidden, somebody will find out that NASA is hiding something.
If you apply the 'who benefits' test that conspiracy theorists like to apply, then one can say NASA can only benefit from disclosing everything they find. In order to suggest differently, one must come up with a provable reason why they wouldn't.
absinthegreen329
Mar 4 2005, 07:49 PM
I doubt they are covering large amounts of information up. If they were then it would eventually leak.
If they are hiding information, then they are probably not releasing it because of the reactions they would get. Some people could handle such things, others can't. They might be afraid of starting a chain reaction...they tell, people freak, people don't trust anything the government says, it could be bad.
seeking
Mar 5 2005, 01:16 AM
i for one dont beleive nasa is holding informatoin back however it is possible that nasa does have info they are not releasing re: alien life and gets funded many amounts of dollars from the us government, nasa just puts on a front that theyneed money
Conspiracy
Mar 6 2005, 06:31 AM

i believe Nasa could be keeping things from the public cause think of how most people would react if they found out theres other life out there or w/e lol
PurpleStuart
Mar 7 2005, 10:38 PM
I'm not sure how people would react if we found out if aliens existed - the fact there is so much Sci-fi on TV means that people wouldn't be so worried anymore - or would they?
absinthegreen329
Mar 8 2005, 01:09 AM
I think people would freak, just because it isn't a movie. They wouldn't know what to expect.
et's daddy
Mar 8 2005, 01:35 AM
ive heard a theory that that is why there are so many alien cartoons for kids
to desensitize them to the idea
absinthegreen329
Mar 8 2005, 02:30 AM
I think there are so many alien cartoons for kids because the subject is intriguing, and even though they don't know it at that age, they probably will later on in life.
Mysteryman
Mar 8 2005, 03:20 AM
Honestly, yes I do. The astronauts are the people who encounter first degree. They are the ones who actually involve themselves in the encounter. They might witness aliens living, aliens mechanically driving a disc shape vehicle. This information leaked to the public can release pandamonium like the even that happened in the 1950's or 60's (I'm not sure) when the radios started talking about martians taking over. Their protecting us and its for our own good. If they see anything beyond what the public should see, most likely it would go straight to the government.
Mr. Blonde
Mar 8 2005, 04:44 AM
NO! Honestly, should the people get all up N' arms and start soiling their trousers of aliens do exsist? No. Well maybe if there old. I can safely say I would not be surprized if the 'man' just came out and exposed the whole truth. I definately think NASA knows a'hell'of alot more than they lead on. They probably know about 'Planet X' 'Nibiru' 'Sedna' whatever you call it. Wouldnt telling us further us along in this little universe? Thats why I'm here, to find out. Not just aliens, find out the secret conspiracys and underbelly of mine, your, and numerous other governments. I'm the first generation computer kids, kids who have full fledged access to the internet and somewhat, to a tiny extent know how to harness it. To look, to see, to know.
twinstead
Mar 9 2005, 04:15 PM
Mr. Blonde how could NASA hide the fact that planet X exists? I think a lot of people think NASA has some godlike powers to control all the nations of the world, but there are millions of capable amateur astronomers out there who are scouring the skies independent of NASA, as well as professional astronomers in countries that may not be friendly to the US.
How could the all-powerful NASA hide something from them? What is this omnipotence attributed to them?
matthewgoad
Mar 9 2005, 09:28 PM
I hope NASA knows the truth. They are spending piles and piles of money on exploring space. If those jokers don't know something, then they ought to close the place down now. I'm sure they probably know alot more than they are telling people, and that's ok with me. I can accept that some things are better left unknown for awhile. At some point though, if Aliens land in downtown NYC or in LA then we'll know. But until something like that happens, I'm content to let them keep whatever they have silent
Mr. Blonde
Mar 10 2005, 12:56 AM
Not just "Planet X." Many other things, Mars and other planet related, even small trivial things they've kept.
twinstead
Mar 10 2005, 01:08 PM
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Not just "Planet X." Many other things, Mars and other planet related, even small trivial things they've kept.
okay, tell me what they are and what your evidence is.
mystic meg
Mar 10 2005, 01:15 PM
they must have found something or why would they bother going back?
but i think they cant publically announce anything witout more proof and evidence that what they have in fear of causing some kind pf panic or uproar
twinstead
Mar 10 2005, 01:35 PM
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hey must have found something or why would they bother going back?
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you talking about Mars? Are you saying that there's no reason to return unless something amazing was found, and that somehow is evidence that they are hiding stuff?
We are still in the process of looking. The reason we returned was to continue looking and learning. That's how exploration works
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but i think they cant publically announce anything witout more proof and evidence that what they have in fear of causing some kind pf panic or uproar
You, or I for that matter, have NO idea if they are under a constraint like that. It really is only a way to rationalize a belief that NASA is hiding something. It is every bit as likely that NASA isn't hiding something, because of course you can't prove that they
aren't hiding stuff; the only thing anybody would ever be able to prove is that they
are hiding stuff, and from my observations that just hasn't been done.
jessicalawes11
Mar 30 2005, 01:19 PM
Baically, no-one can prove that NASA is hiding something.
But they can't prove that they're not.
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