area 51 was moved, wasnt it?

No. IT's still there and guarded. Whether its contents have been removed we do not know. I think all the really shifty stuff is going on elsewhere now though; Area 51 is too high profile.

I thought runways are supposed to be straight.

isnt it true if they catch someone snooping they'll go to the extent of killing them? if its just a air base why kill someone if hes snooping eh?

Yeah, but they could be testing all kind of crazy stuff there.

I just really think if the goverment were gonna hide ufo's somewhere (which I think they are), they wouldn't do it in the worlds top destination for conspiriacy theorists and UFO hunters.

i think everything was there ufo stuff and what not and much may have been moved

though much of it could still be there

i believe there are many buildings in the country owned by the government that house many sub-levels like the pentagon

i would believe area 51 also has many sub-levels not visable

able to house anything they truly want to hide

large enough to hide hundreds of people and lots of technology

They are probably just trying to keep all eyes on Area 51, they have top secret facilities for the special stuff, why use one that everyone knows about? They are just trying to divert our attention.

I totally agree with you on this topic, there's more, than what meets the eye, there! Try underground too, or dug in shelters, even underground, unseen by planes~!

Of Course they are keeping things from the public, its no secret, we all know that! Yeah, they are experts on deversions when it comes to prying eyes! Or someone seeking the truth! This is totally out of our hands!

even if there is equipment or whatever underground, some satellites have the technology to 'see' underground to some extent.

Agreed Absin; the common term is smoke screen. Some say Roswell was a smoke screen for a much larger event, as was Majestic 12.

Maybe this is so? but don't you think they would of thought of this and put some sort of shiled so it couln't be seen? You know how devious they can be! They probably use some sort of material that cannot be penetrated by a spy plane! or what ever!

Zephers right. And the extent to which they can 'see' underground is laugthable anyway.

area 51 exsists

Of course it does. Heck, there are tour buses from Roswell that go there (Well, to the infamous warning sign, anyway). The question isn't whether it exists, but what they are doing in there.

The question is, How many sub-levels does S-4 hold and what goes on there ?

Or whether it has sub-levels at all. I'm still of the opinion that it is simply a testing ground for classified aircraft. Incidentally, what's with all this alien technology and thousands of people living underground nonsense? Even if there had actually been a UFO crash at Roswell, why would they have kept it at a relatively small, insecure base, surrounded by media? It would have been moved elsewhere within the week. Why create a super-large, Thunderbirds Are Go, uber-secret base around it, when you can just stick the thing on a flatbed and move it to one of how many hundreds of far more secure, far more secret bases, throughout the United States?

I think all that is in Area 51 is some carzy advanced technology military technology.

Like Anit-Gravity propulsion and all sorts of crazy stuff like that

I think anti-gravity is impossible to acheive on earth, and I don't really get your post, dunderhead.

Well if anyone knows the answerTo your Qustion, i, for one would like to know also !

Nice pic, Zepher.

Well, being that is is only word of mouth and no evidence is backing it up...yes, it is a rumor.



Old hat? Of course it is old hat. Since I do not believe in extraterrestrial contact, I believe the base is still serving the original, albeit old, purpose that it was constructed for.



Actually, I believe ET said it. I wasn't really responding specifically to you, but rather to the subject in general. And I know that the simplest way to hide things isn't by making them as ridiculously complicated as secret multi-level hidden bases.



Not the slightest hint (that's just my aftershave.) I am pointing out that, even if it was taken as a given that an alien aircraft had crashed, the logic would still not make sense.



No, the base would definitely have been small, unless you can think of some reason for this fantastical secret lair to have existed in Area 51 prior to the Roswell Crash. And no, a base that, five years ago, had to buy up the local hilltops because people were camping out on them and taking long-distance pictures of the base would not be considered very secure.



You put a man on the moon to win the greatest political coup in the history of mankind. Despite Kennedy's grand speech, we weren't in it for the pure pursuit of science, but for the glory. And (no, there's no hint of doubt here either.) even if we did go to the moon simply because, as the cliche goes, 'it was there', that still wouldn't explain why we should build such a complex, as opposed to simply taking the craft to an already existing one.

I cannot believe for one instance that atomic and military air bases throughout the world would not have underground (Fallout) shelters to man personel with the threat of an enemy nuclear attack !

Ps, Wots that pungeant odour? Ever thought of changing your aftershave? LoL

Well I managed to crack this puzzle when I was at Sunday school!
It's quite simple! Obtain yourself two magnets then put your two Norths so they are faceing, slowly draw them together and observe a natural anti-gravity force. Its very easy to achieve!

Yes Walken, it can be quite hard to understand, but?..........!!!Hey!!! So am I?

Atomic bases do, since they are targets in the event of nuclear war. Otherwise, it really isn't a given. Heck, NAS Oceana didn't even have any that I was aware of, and I was the safety officer for a time. Incidentally, a fallout shelter isn't something that you would call a sub-level. The most common one are more along the lines of 10x10 concrete cells. Not exactly the easiest thing to turn into an ultra-super-secret UFO base, extraterrestrial technology or not.

I'm sure all of them have fallout shelters, or something of that sort. Area 51 has to have some insane e'ff'n jiboo goin' down there. It wouldnt be so hard and nearly impossible to gain access to if there wasnt anything 'major' in there. Cant you Americannos get access to the Area 51 documents under the F.O.I. act?

Yeh but, who knows how big these underground fecilities are? And I can't believe they're just lying there empty!
Anyway Aquatus, we will never really know what lies underground until the base becomes unused and derelict.....

F.O.I. requires a Need To Know and no danger to national security. If classified aircraft are being tested at Area 51, letting that information out would be a danger to national security, and as for Need To Know, well, idle curiousity isn't quite enough to qualify.

lol

Thats a joke! F.O.I Censored Documentation, it's all been blacked out before you ever get to see it!

Ah, censorship; our sworn enemey...

Here are some nice facts about a Janet 737 aircraft
N-number : N5294M
Aircraft Serial Number : 20694
Aircraft Manufacturer : BOEING
Model : 737-200
Aircraft Year : 1974
Owner Name : DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE
Owner Address : PO BOX 1504
LAYTON, UT, 84041-6504
Type of Owner : Government
Registration Date : 17-Mar-1994
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified

Intresting. :Got any more?

FYI area 51, AKA Groom Lake Complex does not have nuclear nor atomic weapons. Those items are stored at Nellis AFB just outside of Las Vegas N.V.

Most of the empoyees at GLC are civilian, not military. The base is overseen by the Air Force and the Department of defense, not the NRC as is the Nevada Test site.

Primary Contractors at GLC are Boeing, Lockheed-Martin and a few other aero-space companies.

Janet flights leave and arrive at the executive terminal of McCarren International Airport. Easily seen from the strip in Vegas. (Las Vegas Blvd.)

All of the spy planes developed by the U.S. in the past fifty + years have been tested at Groom lake. Starting with the U-2 all the way up to the stealth fighter and bomber.

The Nellis complex, which includes Area 51, Nevada Test Site, Tonapah Test range (Radar testing) Indian Springs AFB, YMP Nellis AFB Nellis bombing range. amd a few other smaller sites, encompass most of southern Nevada.

Approx 85% of the state of Nevada is owned or controlled by the federal government agencies or military.

Groom lake has in recent years scaled back operations. Many of the projects have moved to the Green River Complex in Utah, Dugway Proving grounds, Utah. and a few other smaller facilities in southern Utah and eastern Nevada.

The shift has been from manned aircraft to drones. One of the reasons for the move was due to public interest into GLC. A second reason was to locate the facilities closer to primary contractors located in Utah (Engine test facility just outside of Salt Lake)

the fact is, we can speculate wot is there till we are blue in the face, but unless something substantial happens in evidence, whistleblower or sumthing else, nothing much will change.

Valid point. However, I didn't speculate on what I posted. As a former DOE contract employee, I do have some first hand knowledge of the inner workings the facilities mentioned. With the exception of the GLC, I have been "on site" on all the others.

Agreed, Roswell man

[attachmentid=13436] Agree~!

I truly believe that behind the walls of Area 51 lie the most adavnced military technology ever created.
Weather or not it's extraterestrial technology or not i'm not sure.

I don't really think they have aliens back there.
But if a saucer did crash in roswell that would be the perfect place to hide it.

No, but its intresting that the year of the aircraft is 1974 and the reg date is 94

If yor go to maps.google.com and look up area 51 you can clearly see the base but if you zoom in to close you get a "we are sorry but we dont have image of this area" or something like that.

I havent tried that

Will do shortly.

Check your facts. Roswell is in New Mexico. . Area 51 is in New Mexico.

The latest sattalite image was YEARS ago.

Hello all, this is my first post on the forum.

And forgive me if this has already been posted.

http://www.divelsfoot.com/forums/archive/i....php/t-917.html

This is a phone call that Art Bell received on September 11, 1997.

He was a supposed ex- worker of Area-51.

You can download the conversation (see the link in the middle of the page.)

area 51 photos

sum more

It hasnt. Thats very intresting, thanks for shareing.

Cool pics but like I said, it was years ago they were all taken. Maybe a blocks been put up.

Most of the Alien Artifacts (which are few) are not kept in Area 51. That project was removed from Area 51 a long time ago. The Spacecraft and the alien bodies are held in two places. One I know of to be Nellis Air Force Base. And I know they have had contact with Aliens but we are still so not advanced compared to them that it's hard for us to harvest their kind of energy to figure much of anything out except the small things the military had taken from the craft to now built fiber optic cables, laser beams for surgical proceedures and night vision.

You should read the book 'The Day After Roswell'. It helps clarify any misconceptions people may have about Area 51. Reallu they are glad we're pointing our noses towards groomlake and that area, it's taking all of the attention off of the real secret burried somewhere else. Amazing work if you ask me! I wish they would say something but still, it's amazing work to hide it such a way.

Haullie