Not be argumentive with a new member, But Nellis AFB, located just outside of Las Vegas NV, and until 9/11 2001 was more or less an open base in many respects. It has/had a great many civilian contract employees. It seems that it would be difficult if not impossible to hide an alien anything. Nellis is also the major facility for storage of nuclear aircraft delivered weapons. It does not seem feasible nor reasonable to locate those two type of items together.

The Groom lake complex is a aircraft testing area. It in my humble opinion, would be a more likely area to store and test alien systems. However, there is no proof that GLC has ever had aliens present at the facility.

i though alot of this stuff was at wright patterson in hanger 18 ?

I think we all realise it's not at Area 51 anymore; too high profile.

No doubt see the reason they CAN hide the stuff at Nellis is because they have secret facilities believe me I've read this from an Army Corolonel who served with many presidents. It's easy for them to hide something right under our noses no matter how humble they are to the public. That's not to say it didn't all BEGIN at Area 51 which back then they just called Groomlake. And lest we forget I said there were two places, I should look up the other but I'm lazy like that haha. Also don't forget these are issues being not only kept from us but from the Solviets as well as the CIA as well as other organizations around the world despite there are others looking into it fully. It's like they know, they just can't fully get involved you see? There's too much secrecy at stake.

This also isn't to say that Area 51 still doesn't host some kind of Alien technology or subliminal underground project that hasn't stopped for 50 years, but it's not the big shabang and we can't know until we investigate the place ourselves. Anyone want to raise their hand to start running through the gates of Area 51 anytime soon? You know you've thought about it *wink* lol I have! It's an air base for secret military aircraft, I'm sure whatever they don't want us to know they can keep some control over. Unless we start poking our noses over the mountains. But I do think most of the things we see over Area 51 are their aircraft flying at now speeds of mac 10. Which can clearly be misplaced as a UFO at such speeds. I also believe UFO's visit Area 51 and other bases around the world for their own purposes. So clearly it's not like there's no reason not to have interest in Area 51. All I'm saying is, broaden your opinions and ask questions elsewhere. I mean we can't break through to the truth alone. Or by standing in the same spot hoping one day they'll open their gates and expose the facts.

Love, Haullie

i'll luv the idea that one day the american government decides to open up area 51 and allow people to have a look around and stuff.

Hmmmm, you gave me an IDEA, sleeping gas shot all over area 51 then go in and look around! or someone with a missing eye can get a fake robot camera eye and watch them

Sometimes the best place to hide something is right out in the open.

i dont undertsand that philosophy.

While searching for stuff dealing with area 51 in Roswell i found this, very strange, anyone ever hear of this???? These are Alien Babies?????[attachmentid=13721]

Yeah, if so it would be overlooked! by those who seek the truth!

I'd like to place a friendly wager on hide and seek with you some time Zandore.

This is too funny.

But I seem to remember back in 1986 on one of my first trips to Nellis, I stopped at the guard shack to ask directions to the base commanders office.

Me: Can you give me directions to the BCO?

Guard: Go straight forward. You'll come to a T intersection. At the T intersection you turn right, follow that road until you see a alien aircraft. At the alien aircraft, you want to make a left. About a hundred feet past the the craft is the main office. Have a good day sir.

Me: Let me get this straight, I turn right at the T and left at the craft, 100 yards past the craft is the BCO?

Guard: NO, No, No, 100 FEET past the craft is the BCO, If you go 100 yards you'll end up at the greys commissary. (Reaches into guard shack.) Here's a map. (Points to map) Right now your here, follow this road, at this T turn right. Follow that road until you get here. (Points to black spot on map) you'll see a big shiny space ship, turn left and then you'll see the Base commanders office about 100 feet on the left.

Me: Okay, got it. Can I keep the map in case I mess up?

Guard, Yes Sir, thats why we have them.

Me: Thank you.

Guard: Your welcome sir, enjoy you visit to Nellis.

It's always best to hide things in plain sight.

Some times if you hide something in an obvious spot no one will find it. They will be looking else where. ERGO "Out in the open"
I am very good at paintball and I have this ability to walk up on people without them hearing or seeing me.
It goes with me being part Native American.

Yup, Paintball rules. Theres a paintball thread in hobbies and intrests

You have to download the lecture with Phil Schneider, if you havnt done it already. You can download it on DC, just search for phil schneider.

The lecture is about secret military bases and the new world order. Its pretty intresting, because he talks about stuff like magnetic trains. That technology is modern today and the time he had the lecture was 9-10 years ago. He also talks about aliens and working with them. Not to forgett the Dulce insident in 1979 when 66 CIA men lost there lives with a battle with aliens underground while building the Dulce base. You have to download it!!!

Im curious why there are at least a hundred die hard ufo fanatics who are willing to risk their own lives and they have not tried to get into 'Area 51'... you would have thought there would be at least one famous attempt, or is there and I dont know?

There are famous events on subject. Most of them are buried.

The fact is once you step in to Area 51 you lose all human rights. It says so on some of the signs (google for photos). If you get shot, nothing can be done. On limewire there used to be a video that allegedly showed fourteen people makeing a break for the base but they got blown apart by machine gun. I think it was a hoax, as one of the people was the one holding the camera and when he got shot one of the guards stepped on the camera.

I really doubt the film would've gotten out, anyhow.

I think there are several things that they don't want us to know about in Area 51.
With all the talk and hype about the place, if there was truly nothing to hide then the wouldn't have it locked up tighter then ft.knox.
Wether it be alien intelligence, or aliens themselves, or just something that would frighten us all to pieces... its there, something.
Too many stories of EX people that worked there, people telling about things.. UFO's. Secret documents and such.

Did I mention that it was a mach 2 train floating on a magnetic railway Phil Schneider was talking about.

They (the government) use the trains to transport aliens, ufos and flying disks underground, from area 51 to Dulce, Los Alamos or to some other top secret base. They also transported workers and other stuff. This way they can transport things whitout anybody notice it.

Gosh, i would really like to know the real reason for all the secret stuff they are hideing from the public and if we will ever find out????? Is it possible that they are really holding some Aliens? This is the reason for all the high teck things they are comming up with today? I bet they are keeping some Aliens Hostage there, and will not own up to it!!! There has to be a reason for the threats given to anyone entering area 51, what are they hideing that is so-oo dang important????? Even the workers there are threatened and told not to reveal what goes on in there!!! There should be a way someone could penetrate the area without being seen!

I disagree: I believe the citizens own the government and as such, the subordinate government workers should be required to disclose everything to their employers: the citizens.

The citizens won't always have the countrys best intrest at heart, will they?

If the USA goverment gives out plans to all it's citizens, how long til your enemeys get a copy. Then when a war comes you lose the edge you've always mantained due to discression of the millitary.

Do you honestly think it is safe to give plans for top secret new planes to all the citizens, some of which may be, ex-communists? Terrorists? Iraqi immigrants?

Consider thyself SMOTEN.

My response in another thread:

You say that people have tried, well if they were clever then they would have sent stuff to national and local papers across the world saying they were about to etc. I doubt a group of like 50 have tried. I reckon 50 people could probs succeed if they bombed the hell out of the defence and then ran in, took some pics and sent them and then died.
Yeah maybe the dieing bit is the problem, oh well there must be some die hard fanatics somewhere. Forgive the semi intended pun.

I've lived around Military Bases all of my life. Michigan, Fla, and presently in NJ. The fence to my backyard is the property of the Naval Air Warfare Center . I've seen more strange aircraft (unmarked) and heard more stories about the contents contained in the hangars there than I can find posts on the web about Area 51 . I simply believe that it's a very well guarded decoy. Simple as that. It most likely carries out certain tests, experiments, exercises, maneuvers etc... as nearly every other base on the continent. Only they're driving us deaf with the silence. After all there are multiple other places that could sustain REAL tests as alleged by Area 51, under less scrutiny. Take the wastelands of the Bikini Atoll. Perfectly polluted and secluded. Sure it's surrounded by water, but if it can travel in Space, not much of a leap I'd think.

you make a very good point

in the early 50's they (the gov)moved alot of the debrie to different bases in the us....

another good point

This is the same basic point I brought to the table, sorry