Mysteryman
Mar 8 2005, 03:39 AM
Interesting site Zepher One, good find.
Walken
Mar 8 2005, 06:45 PM
Good find Zepher.
I think EVREYONE knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that area 51 exsists. In fact it's been proven time and time again.
Area 51 was origonally used to test the B-2 bomber.
I think it's too high profile now to STILL have et's inside. I think most of that junk will go on somewhere much less high profile.
Mysterey, you might wanna check out the thread 'I know...'
It's got some valuable insights from lots of members into why the goverment might be keeping ET a secret.
Zepher_One
Mar 8 2005, 08:19 PM
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 8 2005, 02:45 PM)
Good find Zepher.
I think EVREYONE knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that area 51 exsists. In fact it's been proven time and time again.
Area 51 was origonally used to test the B-2 bomber.
I think it's too high profile now to STILL have et's inside. I think most of that junk will go on somewhere much less high profile.
Mysterey, you might wanna check out the thread 'I know...'
It's got some valuable insights from lots of members into why the goverment might be keeping ET a secret.
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I believe i heard somewhere that the Government did have to fess up that indeed Area 51 does exist! If we could find out more insight to things it would be Great!

We just need to go on searching for truth!
Walken
Mar 8 2005, 08:29 PM
Lets remember folks; step onto area 51s borders and you give up all rights.
zandore
Mar 8 2005, 08:30 PM
QUOTE(Zepher_One @ Mar 7 2005, 09:49 PM)
QUOTE(zandore @ Mar 4 2005, 04:29 PM)
Maybe they (the government) wants to draw attention to area 51 to keep it off someplace else.

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Check this out! Go to: Aliens the Truth.com has some very interesting stuff there!
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QUOTE(Zepher_One @ Mar 8 2005, 03:19 PM)
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 8 2005, 02:45 PM)
Good find Zepher.
I think EVREYONE knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that area 51 exsists. In fact it's been proven time and time again.
Area 51 was origonally used to test the B-2 bomber.
I think it's too high profile now to STILL have et's inside. I think most of that junk will go on somewhere much less high profile.
Mysterey, you might wanna check out the thread 'I know...'
It's got some valuable insights from lots of members into why the goverment might be keeping ET a secret.
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I believe i heard somewhere that the Government did have to fess up that indeed Area 51 does exist! If we could find out more insight to things it would be Great!

We just need to go on searching for truth!

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Good site Zepher and yes the government did come clean on area 51 (So they say).
Zepher_One
Mar 8 2005, 08:32 PM
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Mar 7 2005, 11:39 PM)
Interesting site Zepher One, good find.
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Your most welcome! "Desire, Ask, Believe, Receive"! Just keep searching for those answers, like we all do!
Walken
Mar 8 2005, 08:32 PM
Your right, they did. But occasiionally it's still denyed. I think the person denying it KNOWS evreyone KNOWS they lieing, it's just a way of saying 'Ignore it.'
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Mar 8 2005, 08:37 PM
There is no doubt there is a base there for miltary and experimental aircraft(new technology). Is there aliens? Not in my reality.
Zepher_One
Mar 8 2005, 08:42 PM
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 8 2005, 04:32 PM)
Your right, they did. But occasiionally it's still denyed. I think the person denying it KNOWS evreyone KNOWS they lieing, it's just a way of saying 'Ignore it.'
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BADA_BING_BADA_BOOM_BADA_BANG!!!! You know it, well you know how the Government is, has a vital role in keeping the truth and facts, by threats, harrasement, and controll of the National Media! So it's not much for us to go by! But we'll go on digging for the truth!!
Walken
Mar 8 2005, 09:17 PM
And when we're done digging....
erm...
well start burying eachother! For the truth shall be so shocking, we shall immediatley bury ourselves, like the joke in monty python.
et's daddy
Mar 9 2005, 12:07 AM
i think many in the government could hold a press conference tomorrow explaining the truth behind ufo's as being extraterrestrial and many would still refuse to believe
they would see it as a cover-up for something else
Zepher_One
Mar 9 2005, 12:20 AM
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 8 2005, 04:29 PM)
Lets remember folks; step onto area 51s borders and you give up all rights.
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Maybe your life!! Awww, Man! Don't even go there!!!! Your waisting their time, as well as yours!!!!
Sweettooth
Mar 9 2005, 01:23 AM
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 9 2005, 12:07 AM)
i think many in the government could hold a press conference tomorrow explaining the truth behind ufo's as being extraterrestrial and many would still refuse to believe
they would see it as a cover-up for something else
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yup people still will be thinking its a cover up
Walken
Mar 9 2005, 08:12 AM
Uh-huh. If you're going to come on a site like UM, you already have no trust for the goverment.
suddendeath
Mar 9 2005, 09:40 AM
Have any of the peope on this discussion forum ever
1. seen Area 51
or
2. seen the boundaries/fences of Area 51
Just asking!
Walken
Mar 9 2005, 12:34 PM
Are no fences and few visable boundries. I suggest you read over the entire thread.
The boundarys are marked with spaced out signs. There is no fence.
Some say no one has seen the inside of Area 51 unless they were an ‘insider’, and if they have, they haven’t lived to tell the tale. I personally don’t believe this. I think the security will use a number of methods, including those that are lethal, to prevent you from talking if you do see the inside.
absinthegreen329
Mar 9 2005, 01:25 PM
Well there is no way you could see the inside. They'll shoot you if you get anywhere near Area 51.
Walken
Mar 9 2005, 04:24 PM
Uh-huh.
Tell me, where abouts in Nevarda are you? Do you actually live in Las Vegas?
Zepher_One
Mar 9 2005, 05:36 PM
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 9 2005, 08:34 AM)
Are no fences and few visable boundries. I suggest you read over the entire thread.
The boundarys are marked with spaced out signs. There is no fence.
Some say no one has seen the inside of Area 51 unless they were an ‘insider’, and if they have, they haven’t lived to tell the tale. I personally don’t believe this. I think the security will use a number of methods, including those that are lethal, to prevent you from talking if you do see the inside.
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Yes you are correct, the Govenment will use any measures to keep the public away from Area 51, what in the world do they have going on in there, that it has to have such lethal security????? Just Curious, as some of us are!!!
Zepher_One
Mar 9 2005, 05:45 PM
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 8 2005, 08:07 PM)
i think many in the government could hold a press conference tomorrow explaining the truth behind ufo's as being extraterrestrial and many would still refuse to believe
they would see it as a cover-up for something else
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So! where do you think we stand? if we were told? Would you Believe it?? With all the cover-ups, What would be the Truth?? How could we tell it was not another cover-up? We've heard reliable sourses, but still the doubt lies, is it true?
et's daddy
Mar 9 2005, 06:11 PM
someone needs to get with those people in vegas that take the daily plane commute to groom lake
someone must be willing to talk
though they may sorta be decoys
the real people with info probably live on site
Zepher_One
Mar 9 2005, 06:16 PM
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 9 2005, 02:11 PM)
someone needs to get with those people in vegas that take the daily plane commute to groom lake
someone must be willing to talk
though they may sorta be decoys
the real people with info probably live on site
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Yes thats true , But how does one get past those Barriers, and how would we get them to talk??? Just Curious!
zukie&jim
Mar 9 2005, 06:27 PM
area 51 is part of nellis AFB ,
along with groom lake and 'other" lesser known places.
area 51 has been active for a long, long time back to the WW2 era .
during the 60s-70s and 80s lots of hardware from the USSR was being evaluated out there.
the f-117a was developed there --and that takes us back to around 1977 .
Zepher_One
Mar 9 2005, 06:35 PM
QUOTE(Zepher_One @ Mar 9 2005, 02:16 PM)
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 9 2005, 02:11 PM)
someone needs to get with those people in vegas that take the daily plane commute to groom lake
someone must be willing to talk
though they may sorta be decoys
the real people with info probably live on site
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Yes thats true , But how does one get past those Barriers, and how would we get them to talk??? Just Curious!

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You might like to try: cover-ups.com looks interesting!
et's daddy
Mar 9 2005, 06:47 PM
i did see a show where a reporter waited outside the gate for those on the plane
the security called the cops on him
they came and told him to leave
Walken
Mar 9 2005, 06:51 PM
Area 51 and groom lake are the same thing.
et's daddy
Mar 9 2005, 07:18 PM

area 51 is nothing more then a designation of a grid square on a map
groom lake is nothing more then a dry lake bed within area 51
im not so sure the military base inside area 51 actually has a known name

those are the signs posted outside


with these jeeps and sensor/cameras they dont need a fence
Walken
Mar 9 2005, 07:20 PM
Uh-huh.
The area is called area 51 because the entire area is out of bounds.
absinthegreen329
Mar 9 2005, 10:08 PM
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 9 2005, 08:24 AM)
Uh-huh.
Tell me, where abouts in Nevarda are you? Do you actually live in Las Vegas?
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Yep
Edit: Why do you ask?
Zepher_One
Mar 9 2005, 10:16 PM
QUOTE(absinthegreen329 @ Mar 9 2005, 09:25 AM)
Well there is no way you could see the inside. They'll shoot you if you get anywhere near Area 51.
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Yeah, and every program you watch on area 51, you see the same thing, no addmitence allowed , No tresspassing ETC!!! So, where does that leave us????
Mysteryman
Mar 9 2005, 10:33 PM
Actually, from my knowledge - Area 51 got its name from what it originally was. It was originally a plane hangar base. The specific zone and hangar Area 51 was located was called Hangar 51 (Hanger 1,2,3, - 51 and all the way up). The area were Area 51 was built was basically on top of Hanger 51. Hangar 51 became top governmental and was known as ""Area" 51"
Walken
Mar 10 2005, 08:45 AM
Coolies. Ever took a road trip down to that area? Little Al'e'inn, for instance?
Malek
Mar 10 2005, 09:07 AM
I talked of this topic for hours with some old friend.
My conclusions are pretty rational. I think that AREA 51 was probably some sort of military base, maybe a trading point with some non-human inteligence. I think that this base was surely abandoned since time. The military forces surely know about the rumors, they would not take the chance to leave things there.
absinthegreen329
Mar 10 2005, 01:36 PM
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 10 2005, 12:45 AM)
Coolies. Ever took a road trip down to that area? Little Al'e'inn, for instance?
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Haha no, that is a little far for me, being as I don't have a car. My mom has though. many times, and she stayed in the Little Al'e'inn. She brought back some really cool shot glasses.
Walken
Mar 10 2005, 03:48 PM
I REALLY wanna go there.
It's like an obsession.
et's daddy
Mar 10 2005, 03:52 PM
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 10 2005, 11:48 AM)
I REALLY wanna go there.
It's like an obsession.
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sort of pointless at the moment
used to be you could sit on the ridge surrounding the facility
but now even that is off limits
The Roswell Man
Mar 10 2005, 03:57 PM
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 10 2005, 04:52 PM)
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 10 2005, 11:48 AM)
I REALLY wanna go there.
It's like an obsession.
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sort of pointless at the moment
used to be you could sit on the ridge surrounding the facility
but now even that is off limits

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i hear that they moved their whole base sumwhere else, meanin the place is empty. is this true?
Walken
Mar 10 2005, 04:01 PM
Recent people to see it have commented that it looks abandoned.
et's daddy
Mar 10 2005, 04:07 PM
there is still activity there as a plane leaves las vegas everyday with employees headed to area 51
but i would believe those people work for skunk works on top secret aircraft
i also know they store or dispose of hazardous materials there ive seen the court case where a man tried to sue after getting ill
i dont think anyone at area 51 that is dealing with or dealt with anything alien actually commutes to work
id say they are housed on site as IMO they would be too valuable to be left out in the world
im sure someone has thought to try and "pry" info from these people and the government wouldnt chance that
The Roswell Man
Mar 10 2005, 04:08 PM
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 10 2005, 05:01 PM)
Recent people to see it have commented that it looks abandoned.
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i heard they moved the security out too (pos. to another area of nevada, cant be sure)
Walken
Mar 10 2005, 04:16 PM
The security is definatley still there. Although maybe not as heavy as before...
Thanato
Mar 10 2005, 11:10 PM
Its not abbandond they still use it. It dosnt make sence to build a secret airbase and then abandon it after they renovate it.
Security maybe less viasable but its still there.
~Thanato
Zepher_One
Mar 11 2005, 02:23 AM
QUOTE(Thanato @ Mar 10 2005, 07:10 PM)
Its not abbandond they still use it. It dosnt make sence to build a secret airbase and then abandon it after they renovate it.
Security maybe less viasable but its still there.
~Thanato
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That makes sense!
Malek
Mar 11 2005, 02:34 AM
The security could be some kinf of bait, to let us believe they still use it.
DamienPriest
Mar 11 2005, 03:28 AM
Roswell was proven on a T.V. program on Sci-Fi and ABC that it was a set up to cover something up that the government screwed up. There were no Aliens or any flying saucers involved.
There was however an incident that involved casualties. I think the whole Roswell UFO was a cover up on something else completely non-extraterrestrial. A project under the government that went terribly wrong involving the death of humans. Area 51 is real and active for special Government funded projects.
However...
I'm not ruling out the existence of other life in the universe. Here is one thing many people forget. How can we go from propellar airplanes just after WWII and head into Stealth and cloaking devices on radar? Look it how well advanced we are moving period. You can't tell me we didnt somehow get any of this technology from a little help from our friends out there?
Think about that!
Matt ~
jjtss
Mar 11 2005, 04:34 AM
I am sure that Area 51 contains some sort of military operation manned by humans in uniform. In addition I'm sure that it is also a storage area for many obsolete or failed technologies. In addition, and most importantly, it is an area where many underground nuclear tests took place and the terrain is riddled with dangerous sinkholes. This then is the primary reason for the strict prohibitions against trespassing. Will we ever learn anything concrete about Area 51?? Probably not. Is it very dangerous for people to trespass there??? DEFINITELY.
Malek
Mar 11 2005, 07:22 AM
I don't think the Government wanted to turn this accident in some UFO involved story. This story had alot of repercussion for them.
Eyes witnesses don't ever talk of flying saucer or aliens. They talk about some aluminium like material that was pretty hard. For me it sound like an evolved technology, not necessarily alien technology.
The theory of the alien's helper is pretty interesting. If we take a look at the antique civilization of egypt, we can learn that some kind of God came of the sky in a bright ray of light and learned useful things to human. Similarity between ancients civilization are also more then evident. The Gods usually come from the sky in some bright light.
The Osiris Case that was leaded by URSS(or is it USSR in english?) during the cold war also reveal astonishing facts about the origins of the ancients gods.
Walken
Mar 11 2005, 09:21 AM
It's still in use. I just seriously doubt theres that much there. It is too high profile for any really secret stuff.
sweeeedberg
Mar 30 2005, 03:50 PM
Idont know if you have seen this before but on the groom lake were I think the new runaway is there are some strange circular lines that leads from the runaway to now were... are there somebody who have some facts about this
picture on this site:
http://store.spaceimaging.com/detail.asp?z...&AdvSearch=2227
Walken
Mar 30 2005, 05:04 PM
Its probably just a runway.
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