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Nineteen
My dad is in the naval reserves. Well, I guess you could say that he is now not in the naval reserves. He went to a boot camp type thing that they hold every year at some point in time, well anyway, while he was there they gave him a shot of something, and from this he has contracted some weird illness. He gets these rashes on his cheeks and chest all the time, but when he goes in to get an examination for these rashes the doctors dont tell him much. Itr is really quite odd. I just want to know what anyone thinks of that?
Sunofone
QUOTE(Nineteen @ Mar 4 2005, 11:35 AM)
My dad is in the naval reserves.  Well, I guess you could say that he is now not in the naval reserves.  He went to a boot camp type thing that they hold every year at some point in time, well anyway, while he was there they gave him a shot of something, and from this he has contracted some weird illness.  He gets these rashes on his cheeks and chest all the time, but when he goes in to get an examination for these rashes the doctors dont tell him much.  Itr is really quite odd.  I just want to know what anyone thinks of that?
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it really could be a number of things-more than likely it is a reaction to mercury poisoning-the vaccinations they give out now in the military are known as multiple dose applications and include high doses of squaline which uses mercury as a preservative -the other possibilities include "experimental" vaccines used for biological warfare weapons such as cipro for anthrax or something for smallpox,maybe a new avian vaccine-the absolute worst scenario is that he has been used as petri dish to kick start the next "terrorist" attack-i would go to a lawyer immediately
aquatus1
I, along with a few other of my men, also got some nasty rashes when we got our hepatax shots. It was just a reaction to the serum, and it cleared up after about a week, although one of our guys had it crop back up and he had to go to medical till it cleared up. That was a little less than a year ago, and I haven't had any ill effects beyond that first month.
dmgspycat
I am going to echo Sunofone on this as I to have been told by a doctor about the mercury in vaccinations. Also, from the same doctor, these new experimental vaccines for bio-war are unproven and have been known to kill military personnel. Remember Gulf war sickness? If I were you I might try and find some website for Gulf war Syndrome and maybe they can help you and your father with legal help. The military has a bad history of treating our soldiers as "guinea pigs" by subjecting them to hazardous experiments. Like the radiation exposures in the 50's or the Tuskeegee sickle cell experiments on a colored air squadron in the 40's. Even Gulf War sickness , as the military doctors are not forthcoming with the facts probably for legal issues. I am truly sorry for you and your family and wish I could help more. If I find any useful relevant links I will send you a private message.
dmgspycat


Experimental Vaccines Can Be Administered to Military Without Consent
January 4, 2000

On September 30, 1999 President Clinton signed an executive order giving any president of the United States the authority to waive informed consent for military personnel regarding experimental vaccines, antidotes, and treatments.

The order reads: "It is the expectation that the United States Government will administer products approved for their intended use by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). However, in the event that the Secretary [of Defense] considers a product to represent the most appropriate countermeasure for diseases endemic to the area of operations or to protect against possible chemical, biological, or radiological weapons, but the product has not yet been approved by the FDA for its intended use, the product may, under certain circumstances and strict controls, be administered to provide potential protection for the health and well-being of deployed military personnel in order to ensure the success of the military operation."

Under what circumstances will a president be able use this new power? The order continues: ". . . [T]he President may waive the informed consent requirement for the administration of an investigational drug to a member of the Armed Forces in connection with the member's participation in a particular military operation, upon a written determination by the President that obtaining consent:
(1) is not feasible;
(2) is contrary to the best interest of the member; or
(3) is not in the interest of national security."

Who is going to inform the nation's Armed Forces personnel about this new order? Will volunteers who don't want to serve as experimental subjects be given the opportunity to resign? Will new recruits be informed through written contracts about this new military "duty"? These are serious questions that our national leaders and media should be addressing.

Not informing citizens of their involvement in experimental medical studies is an infringement of their human rights.

The September 30, 1999 Presidential Executive Order can be viewed at the following Internet address:

http://www.pub.whitehouse.gov/uri-res/I2R?...9/10/1/8.text.2

This article was originally published in the November/December 1999 issue of Health Freedom Watch, the bimonthly watchdog report published by the Institute for Health Freedom.
Not informing military personnel of their involvement in experimental medical studies is an infringement of their human rights.






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dmgspycat
Here is another but more informative link about experimental vaccinations with case studies,doctor boards, and case histories also what you can do for treatment of various effects. http://www.fedworkerscomp.net/toxic.htm[/URL]
aquatus1
What does your father's shot record say they injected him with?
Nineteen
QUOTE(aquatus1 @ Mar 4 2005, 03:36 PM)
I, along with a few other of my men, also got some nasty rashes when we got our hepatax shots.  It was just a reaction to the serum, and it cleared up after about a week, although one of our guys had it crop back up and he had to go to medical till it cleared up.  That was a little less than a year ago, and I haven't had any ill effects beyond that first month.
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This has gone on for more than a year, and nothing the doctors have givin him have actually helped.
aquatus1
If it has gone on that long and is sporadic in nature, it might be a reaction to an environmental factor, not a disease. If it were an illness or virus, doctors should not have had a problem isolating it in a year (identifying it is different matter).

Is there any major connection between the injection and your father's symptoms?
et's daddy
some useless advice has been given here

getting a lawyer isnt the answer

as military personnel cant sue the government

it would be a waste of time and money
Stellar
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If it has gone on that long and is sporadic in nature, it might be a reaction to an environmental factor, not a disease. If it were an illness or virus, doctors should not have had a problem isolating it in a year (identifying it is different matter).

Is there any major connection between the injection and your father's symptoms?


I wonder... could the vaccine have made him allergic to something in the environment?
aquatus1
QUOTE(Stellar @ Mar 5 2005, 04:19 AM)
I wonder... could the vaccine have made him allergic to something in the environment?
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It has happened before. That is a definite possibility, particularly if no allergies existed prior to the injection, and both the doctor and the father never looked into it on the assumption that, since no allergies had ever been present, none are there now.
et's daddy
any hair where there wasnt ?

maybe they injected him with a Yeti gene ? thumbsup.gif

lol
et's daddy
honestly though

as you cant sue the government for monetary gains you may be able to sue for info

i know of a case from Groom Lake, a man got real sick from working there

he sued the government just to find out what was wrong with him

the explaination provided was all blacked out

the judge said that wasnt good enough and he wanted it explained why it was blacked out

the explaination of the explaination was also 75% blacked out and the judge was basically told to deal with it

i hope i made that understandable thumbsup.gif
Nineteen
1) He is only allergic to bees

2) It does not seem life threatening, but seems to put him into some type of pain.

3) We are not going to sue anyone I just wanted everyones imput on this
et's daddy
QUOTE(Nineteen @ Mar 5 2005, 10:14 AM)
1) He is only allergic to bees

2) It does not seem life threatening, but seems to put him into some type of pain.

3) We are not going to sue anyone I just wanted everyones imput on this
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1) seems you may have found something else he is allergic to

2) i would say it isnt life threatening as it would have run it's course by now but i can imagine he is in pain. the gulf war syndrome had people in agony

3) my comments about a suing them was mostly directed to those that brought the idea up as it would be fruitless. and any input you gain here is pure fantasy and speculation. if anyone here knew the truth it would be lost in the speculation and most likely ridiculed
dmgspycat
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 5 2005, 10:30 AM)
QUOTE(Nineteen @ Mar 5 2005, 10:14 AM)
1) He is only allergic to bees

2) It does not seem life threatening, but seems to put him into some type of pain.

3) We are not going to sue anyone I just wanted everyones imput on this
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1) seems you may have found something else he is allergic to

2) i would say it isnt life threatening as it would have run it's course by now but i can imagine he is in pain. the gulf war syndrome had people in agony

3) my comments about a suing them was mostly directed to those that brought the idea up as it would be fruitless. and any input you gain here is pure fantasy and speculation. if anyone here knew the truth it would be lost in the speculation and most likely ridiculed
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ET what are you talking about? Fantasy...speculation? No one yet has posted any BS to this topic except you. The only thing that is friutless is to do nothing. disgust.gif
Stellar
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1) He is only allergic to bees


You can develope allergies... and you dont know you're allergic to it until you react to it. For instance... I might be allergic to bees, but since I havent been bitten by one, I dont know if I am.

absinthegreen329
Could these just be run of the mill allergies? I know when allergy season comes around my mom gets a nasty rash.
Chris_com28
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I might be allergic to bees, but since I havent been bitten by one, I dont know if I am.

Don't you mean stung by one?disgust.gif
Stellar
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Don't you mean stung by one?


Yes... yes I do
Chris_com28
Woo hoo, I got one over Stella! *Does little celebration dance*
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