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Mysteryman
I'm hoping one day I get to visit Loch Ness...Maybe even write a book about it [dreaming].
Walken
Theres not a lot of stuff that hasn;t been wrote about in the feild of cryptozoology.

Just for you

An auction I saw that you might be intrested in.
Mysteryman
Good book, check this site out - providing a bunch of books on cryptozoology:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-h...9067774-0169745
Walken
Thanks for the link grin2.gif
OtterLord
read my signature to understand Lochness.
Walken
I understand......nothing new....blink.gif
Mysteryman
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 12 2005, 02:25 PM)
Thanks for the link grin2.gif
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No prob thumbsup.gif
XSAS
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 12 2005, 08:10 PM)
Uh-huh.

I've only visited the loch once, and found a (fake) gold chain. I threw it back because it was all rusty and gross.

I was 11. I remember all of the locals were really capitaliseing on it. There were models of sea monsters in ponds by hotels and evreything.

There were also some old folks who owned the inn we stayed at. One night we actually had dinner with them. They were really nice but hated all of the tourist attractions that were built up around the place. The wife of the owner said she saw the monster when she was very young.
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W, I once took my eldest daughter to Scotland when she was 4, I think it was probablyu my first trip there too, We staid in a B&B near Loch Morar, brand new building it was and the owners were young in their late 20's with 2 children. The man when I asked him how long they have been open explained he had a fishing boat on Loch Morar and one on the sea also and left that line of work to run the B&B, naturally I asked why and he said he had seen something just below the surface of the water swimming along side his boat on Loch Morar, this freaked him out so much that he has never got back on a boat again, I asked him about the boat and he described it and it was actuall moared up at the lch with a for sale sign on... Morar I believe is the deepest of the scottish Lochs?
Mysteryman
Interesting - Loch Morar...Found some info:

Site about Loch Morar:
http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/scotlan...nverness_6.html
Mysteryman
Sorry, double posted - had to edit.
Mysteryman
Interesting - Loch Morar...Found some info:

Site about Loch Morar:
http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/scotlan...nverness_6.html
Walken
Intresting.

Thanks for shareing thumbsup.gif
XSAS
I knew if someone was going to find something at the speed of light it would be you, Morar is the deepest Loch, Loch Ness is the biggest body of water and Loch Lomond is the largest Surface area... interstingly enough I don't know of anything seen in Loch Lomond but I know guy that swam the length of it and had an Eeel wrap itself around his leg... now that would panic you.
Mysteryman
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 12 2005, 02:56 PM)
Intresting.

Thanks for shareing thumbsup.gif
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No problem.

QUOTE(XSAS @ Mar 12 2005, 02:59 PM)
I knew if someone was going to find something at the speed of light it would be you, Morar is the deepest Loch, Loch Ness is the biggest body of water and Loch Lomond is the largest Surface area... interstingly enough I don't know of anything seen in Loch Lomond but I know  guy that swam the length of it and had an Eeel wrap itself around his leg... now that would panic you.
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Lol. Interesting information - thanks...

Heres a site based on a bunch of Lochs, monsters contained inside, etc.
http://www.scotland-flavour.co.uk/scottish-lochs.html
Walken
Another great site grin2.gif
Vaulron
I was just searching for Ogopogo pictures and stumbled across this forum. I'd like to say that I live in Vernon, B.C. right at the northern part of Okanagan lake, I've yet to see the creature myself though...But one of these days I am bound to see him, I just don't go walking around the lake that often, so my chances of spotting him are quite slim. Although it does live in there, I laugh when Ogopogo is dismissed as a large sturgeon fish, even by some of the locals I've talked too!! It's like c'mon get real!

Quite mysterious to me, as I like to sit and think about crazy ideas such as Ogopogo devouring people. That may sound very far-fetched, but I love it when my imagination gets carried away and then I cook up thoughts about my favorite lake monster revealing itself as a terrifying, menacing creature!
signman
sorry man, most of those photos are the work of monster hunter Frank Searle, and one of the photos is the work of Lachlan Stuart. although these photos are generally regarded as fakes, they were supposed to be the Loch Ness Monster, not Ogopogo.
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(Vaulron @ Dec 9 2006, 04:22 PM) [snapback]1456330[/snapback]
I was just searching for Ogopogo pictures and stumbled across this forum. I'd like to say that I live in Vernon, B.C. right at the northern part of Okanagan lake, I've yet to see the creature myself though...But one of these days I am bound to see him, I just don't go walking around the lake that often, so my chances of spotting him are quite slim. Although it does live in there, I laugh when Ogopogo is dismissed as a large sturgeon fish, even by some of the locals I've talked too!! It's like c'mon get real!

Quite mysterious to me, as I like to sit and think about crazy ideas such as Ogopogo devouring people. That may sound very far-fetched, but I love it when my imagination gets carried away and then I cook up thoughts about my favorite lake monster revealing itself as a terrifying, menacing creature!

Hooray... You posted on a year-old thread.
makaya325
hey i believe their is a real animal in lake okanagan, i know it wouldnt be concrete proof, but its the best footage of ogopogo ive ever seen. its the 1991 demara footage. it was on ngc too. you can see 3 humps moving through the water. these werent beavers or otterrs, or any known animal. otters cant move like an inchworm. this this looked like a wide large eel unknown to science
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(Vaulron @ Dec 9 2006, 06:22 PM) [snapback]1456330[/snapback]
I was just searching for Ogopogo pictures and stumbled across this forum. I'd like to say that I live in Vernon, B.C. right at the northern part of Okanagan lake, I've yet to see the creature myself though...But one of these days I am bound to see him, I just don't go walking around the lake that often, so my chances of spotting him are quite slim. Although it does live in there, I laugh when Ogopogo is dismissed as a large sturgeon fish, even by some of the locals I've talked too!! It's like c'mon get real!

Quite mysterious to me, as I like to sit and think about crazy ideas such as Ogopogo devouring people. That may sound very far-fetched, but I love it when my imagination gets carried away and then I cook up thoughts about my favorite lake monster revealing itself as a terrifying, menacing creature!


I seem to recall that the native american legends all claimed that the creature devoured humans, and they were excellent observers of nature, so I would believe that. But it is not surprising it would avoid this practice today. During those times, stone age weapons would have been harmless to such a creature, but as guns were introduced to the natives, after getting shot a couple of times, it probably decided to remove people from the menu. Crocodilians have learned the same lesson.

The Dragons of Europe were also no longer reported stealing cattle and children with the introduction of firerarms. That seems to be when they "returned to the sea".
coldethyl
Necroposting is criminal.

Okay it isn't.

But it should be.

I'm going to throw sand at you now.
cutieberry
Great pics. I personally believe it is real. But even its not its still cool. lol.
rosenrot
Hmm, well this does appear to be a very old thread, but I'll post anyway sence lake monsters are my favorite cryptids. I have not really researched Ogopogo on my own to make a firm decision. But the one picture that really interests me was the one taken by a family on thier vaction. It clearly showed something rising out of the water. If I remember correctly, American Chupacabra once had the picture as his avatar.
Thunderbolt
ogopogo is a land locked Cabdorosaur or group of cadborosaurs plus its a fact that the lake and the ocean had once been cunnectid
there are incredably strong similarities between the two plus the lake it lives in is only a few miles inland of the coast which is cadborobay and other waters off the coast of british columbia
so yeah all the pics that show a plesiosaur-like shape please dont take them to be ogopogo cause its serpentine and also camra shy
and it is reported lessoften then other lake monsters because i rekon they live far deeper than we seem to think
which would also help Cadborosaurus mainly cause its the ocean
rosenrot
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I just looked up the picture I reciently refered to.

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It turns out that this is a alleged picture of Champ, the lake monster of Lake Champlain. This one is thought to be a plesiosaur like animal similar to Nessie.

Sorry for the mix-up, Thunder. I haven't done much research on North American lake cryptids.
Thunderbolt
oh its ok
i wasnt refering to that
i was just typing my veiws on Ogopogo
bluethermal
QUOTE(MJB222 @ Mar 9 2005, 09:22 AM) *
The natives also told their children not to go in the lake because they would would get eaten. I believe in Ogopogo, but could it be a possibility that it's just a story to keep people out of the lake?

the scots told the same story to their kids as well,this is a great way to stop kids drowning in the loch/lake by bring a monster on to the scene
bluethermal
a few of those pictures where taken by a frank searle,who lived beside loch ness for a number of years 'hunting' for nessie,they are now known to be poor fakes,but don,t let that stop the true believers out there
capoeiranger
I've told many people in this forum before...nothing stops me from getting on the lake! I'm going to Lake Okanagan real soon, and resides in a lakeside village! How about that?
sadistic jellyfish of doom
Wait, someone Necromanced this thread AGAIN?

I remember CanadianRottweiler. He always made threads like this, with a big underline "MANY PICS!".
capoeiranger
Yeah, hey sorry SJOD I didn't realized it...it wasn't me who started it though...(looking left and right)
Blue_army
There is a lot of fish in both lakes and posbialy some of the eels might have evolved into giant eels maybe?
Urisk
QUOTE(Canadian Rottweiler @ Mar 7 2005, 02:36 AM) *
Dude,it's LAKE OKANOGAN tongue.gif And yes,i believe in ogopogo more than nessie.Okanogon lake is in BC,Canada,near where i live.This lake is surrounded by desert terrain.



And yet several of those photos have been documented as photos of Loch Ness.
Gatofeo
I'll drive Lake Okanogan in early August, on my way to my cabin in central British Columbia.
Everytime I drive by that lake, I take quick glances away from the road, hoping to spot Ogopogo! LOL
I know ... I know ... not a chance but still, I gotta look!
Beautiful area. On the fringe of the southeastern desert of B.C. (sagebrush and bare rock abound) and very scenic. That desert country, through irrigation, produces massive crops of vegetables and fruits. Stopping by a fruit stand on the way up is a must!
draconic chronicler
Is it only a coincidene that we have similar described, long necked aquatic cryptids all at around the same latitude, in Canada/U.S, Scotland, Scandenavia, Russian and China? I doubt Champ vs. Ogopogo vs. Nessie, any are more real than the others, they are obviusly the same creature in relatively the same habitat around the world.
Primeval
A BC'er EH! I have a ogopogo stuffed animal.
Primeval
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Jun 24 2007, 12:55 PM) *
Is it only a coincidene that we have similar described, long necked aquatic cryptids all at around the same latitude, in Canada/U.S, Scotland, Scandenavia, Russian and China? I doubt Champ vs. Ogopogo vs. Nessie, any are more real than the others, they are obviusly the same creature in relatively the same habitat around the world.



Ogopogo to my knowledge is a giant sea serpent, unlike Nessie. And he would totally whoop Nessie's ass. Ogopogo is like 3 times as large as Nessie.
rosenrot
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Jun 24 2007, 03:55 PM) *
Is it only a coincidene that we have similar described, long necked aquatic cryptids all at around the same latitude, in Canada/U.S, Scotland, Scandenavia, Russian and China? I doubt Champ vs. Ogopogo vs. Nessie, any are more real than the others, they are obviusly the same creature in relatively the same habitat around the world.

I was under the impression that Champ and Nessie were supposed to be of the long-neck plesiosaur trype; while Ogopogo was supposed to be a landlocked cadborosaurus.

QUOTE(Primeval @ Jun 24 2007, 04:39 PM) *
A BC'er EH! I have a ogopogo stuffed animal.

I want one!! Where did you find it?

And I have two Nessie Beanie Babies!!. Here are pictures.
DarkSide
Pretty cool, I must admit, but you know me.. always skeptical until there is living, breathing proof.

~DS~

Edit: I forgot some of my own pictures that I aquired from a friend who went to the Okanagan once.
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Nocturnal
What's interesting with the ogopogo stories is that there are many with multiple witnesses (30 cars driving nearby saw it in one instance, several boaters in another.. keeps going). I've heard recently they found a deep underwater cave in Loch Ness, anyone know if similar tunnels have been found in Lake Okanagan

My time at Lake Okanagan hasn't resulted in seeing anything.. Though my cousin and I flooded the engine of a Sea-doo in the middle of the lake, and I got to swim back tongue.gif I've heard sighting are less frequent in the north of the lake near Vernon (where I normally go) than down south between Kelowna and Penticton.
Primeval
QUOTE(rosenrot @ Jun 24 2007, 03:45 PM) *
I was under the impression that Champ and Nessie were supposed to be of the long-neck plesiosaur trype; while Ogopogo was supposed to be a landlocked cadborosaurus.
I want one!! Where did you find it?

And I have two Nessie Beanie Babies!!. Here are pictures.




Ive had it since i was like 5. I gave it to my sister.
capoeiranger
Actually, I'm going to Kelowna and I'm going to live on a lakeside house for a few months, hope I can spot something (I mean, some sightings...)

And Rosentrot, can you tell me what a 'cadborosaurus' is? I can't find the name on any dinosaur list...I think that the name
cadborosaurus refers to the cryptid lake monster of the Lake Cadboro, in short, it was called 'caddie'.

Hey, uh , Darkside, your buddy Alex got a bad handwriting, kinda like I do! Haha!
Nocturnal
QUOTE(capoeiranger @ Jun 25 2007, 03:03 PM) *
Actually, I'm going to Kelowna and I'm going to live on a lakeside house for a few months, hope I can spot something (I mean, some sightings...)

And Rosentrot, can you tell me what a 'cadborosaurus' is? I can't find the name on any dinosaur list...I think that the name
cadborosaurus refers to the cryptid lake monster of the Lake Cadboro, in short, it was called 'caddie'.

Hey, uh , Darkside, your buddy Alex got a bad handwriting, kinda like I do! Haha!


Cadborosaurus is the name given to a corpse / sea cryptid found in the ocean off BC. It's named after Cadboro Bay in Victoria, but it has allegedly been seen up and down the pacific coast of north america. The description fits very closely with Ogopogo descriptions, so some people say the species has been around awhile, and when water levels were higher after glacial period, the ogopogo ancestor swam up the Columbia River into the newly formed Okanagan lake, and then got stuck there when water levels dropped again.
swtp
I,ve lived in B.C. all my life and we would go up to the lake every summer when i was a kid, well i was sure that i spotted Ogopogo several times but every time i would try and tell my folks they would laugh and say it,s just afloating dead head or my over active imagination, so i quit telling them but to this day i,m still sure i saw him!
I havn,t been up there in a few years but it was the best vacation place in the world as far as i,m concerned!
rosenrot
I think Nocturnal explained it better than I could, capo. Cadborosaurus or caddy is the name given to a lake/sea monster seen off the coast of British Columbia. It's said to resemble a long serpent as opposed to the plesiosaur-like lake monsters Champ and Nessie. And if I'm not mistaken, something like caddy was supposidly seen off the coast of New England, too.
DarkSide
QUOTE(capoeiranger @ Jun 25 2007, 01:03 PM) *
Hey, uh , Darkside, your buddy Alex got a bad handwriting, kinda like I do! Haha!



Yeah, its kind of funny. His writing was better when he was in grade 3, he is now in grade 11.


By the way. Here is a picture of Cadborosaurus, for anyone who is unaware of what it is.
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DДrk_Lotu§
ahhh ogopogo holds a special place in my heart. I'll always remember hating my parents whenever they would drag me to the okanagan to swim and such... always scared me lol
glorybebe
QUOTE(DДrk_Lotu§ @ Jun 26 2007, 05:22 PM) *
ahhh ogopogo holds a special place in my heart. I'll always remember hating my parents whenever they would drag me to the okanagan to swim and such... always scared me lol


My dad and his family grew up in Vernon, which is only about half an hour from Kelowna. I believe that Ogopogo is real. Why? My uncle said he saw it and so being the brilliant man that he is-he tried to shoot it. What a Butthead. wacko.gif
DДrk_Lotu§
haha would have been something if he got a good shot on it lol .. I still have friends around the area that still say they see weird things in the lake from time to time.. I don't know if it's real or not my fear of it as I was swimming in the lake was quite real though lol

I've never had the privilege of seeing anything strange in the lake but I've heard plenty of tales whether their true or not who knows.. I hope so it would be interesting turning on the t.v one day with a giant serpent in a tank swimming around wouldn't it?
glorybebe
QUOTE(DДrk_Lotu§ @ Jun 26 2007, 05:47 PM) *
haha would have been something if he got a good shot on it lol .. I still have friends around the area that still say they see weird things in the lake from time to time.. I don't know if it's real or not my fear of it as I was swimming in the lake was quite real though lol

I've never had the privilege of seeing anything strange in the lake but I've heard plenty of tales whether their true or not who knows.. I hope so it would be interesting turning on the t.v one day with a giant serpent in a tank swimming around wouldn't it?


That it would. There has to be something to the stories. We have so many lakes here in BC and they are deep, being carved from glaciers. There was even a native story of a monster in Kootenay Lake. And I know that Kootenay Lake has many many caves. If there can be 500 year old sturgeons down there, why not other things?
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