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It blows the entire sciences to pieces. our scientists have a measuring scale/rule for everything and if they enounter anything that doesnt conform to this scale/rule or their beliefs they discard it as a freakish phenomena or label it as fake/fraud!!

the essay blew my mind away!!

Dig On!!

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Soo, there once were giants, that walked with dinosaurs...

The Bible speaks of a city of giants..

That was a race of giants.

You know, maybe there would be a point here except for one little thing, the Bible never, ever mentions dinosaurs. Not even once. If any of these theories were actually true, then there would have been at least a mention, seeing as how this would be something Biblical people would have dealt with every day.

From what I remember "Dinosaur" is a recent word. It did not exist a few hundred years ago.

They didn't have to use the word "dinosaur" to get the point across. There would have been mentions of giant freaking lizards, at the very least. Most of the animals in the Bible are ones we are all familiar with, lions, bears, donkeys. Dinosaurs would have been just as familiar to them, and would have gotten a mention or two.

its incredible to think that human bones have been found that old and that the beings were as big as they are.

I agree but there is mention of leviathan and another I can't remember what it was called.

Well, it's commonly agreed that leviathan was more than likely a hippopotamus, and if the other is in Revelation, who knows what the hell it is.

Not me.
PS. I just noticed your Avatar. When did you add motion to it?

About a week or so ago.

OOPs

It's okay, I haven't crept out from Off-Topic in quite a while.

Anyhow, I guess we can both agree that if man really did exist at the same time as the dinosaurs, as this guy suggests, and he also says that the age of the earth can be figured using the geneologies found in the Bible, then the Bible surely would have mentioned dinosaurs at one point or another.

OK I don't feel as bad now. That is saying if it has not been edited out of the Bible or even if the Bible is fact.

even if true that they found "human" remains that predate known history, i wouldnt agree it throws out evolution theory

could be it just pushes it back

Or a clue to an ET origins.

although the creationist thoery explains the artifacts more clearly, there is still a few details the author points out that it misses out. Also there could be a possibilty the bible may be a much larger texty than we currently have which could be 'missing' during conversion to other languages.

That has been covered in other texts and yes that is what I stress when I ask how the bible can be accurate. Thank you for backing my stance on that issue.

leviathan behemoth dragons and to me a dinosaur is a very wild beast in a general sense but meh

Thank you Celumnaz!

That is the worst essay ive ever read. He doesnt support his evidence at all. There was no carbon dating or any good proof. He just says, there were bones underground so they are millions of years old. In the moaning cavern there are bones. Some Indians fell in a few thousand years ago. Its no different.

As I was reading I decided to research the names and premesies involved in the essay.
He doesn't support his evidence because he can't.


GREATLY exagerated. He did discover 1.6 million year old bones of a boy: which were not out of their time.

What he did discover, though, is that humans roamed from africa 195,000 years ago - 35,000 years earlier than previously thought.

Later the essay states that a Mr. Mattison uncovered a skull 200 feet down in the earth - when in reality it was 130 feet. It was, though, under a layer of volcanic rock. It was said to be 1.8 million - 5.3 million years old. It's called the Calaveras skull and is now in the Peabody museam located in Cambdrige massachusetts. This does not predate man. The essay says it was 12 million years old. A member of the proforming party who 'found' the skull actually said that it was a hoax (probably because they couldn't find any gold, so they capitilized on the publicity), and that the skull was actually taken from an indian burial site. Bones found near this skull were radio carboned, and found to be a thousand years old.

I will no longer read or respond to this article... It seeks to debunk an almost infallible theory with gross exagerations and misconceptions.

Sorry to be such a realist - but something about the article rubbed me the wrong way from the start.

*edited for grammar error*

Quick search, found this:

Dinosaurs in the Bible

Worth a look? Idunno just seems a lotta ppl (skeptics?) are lookin fer dinos in the Bible so I figured I'd see what I could 'dig up' a-hahaha..a-haha...a-ha..lame pun

*edit* Fixed link

But they didn't exist at the same time. Radio carboning has proved this.

Personally i think these "days" the book speaks of are metaphors. They are more stages than days.

That's just my interpertation, though.

Also, the website contradicts itself - it says a leviathian breathes fire. How could it breath fire underwater? Especially as that type of dinosaur as it is mentioned. It was a giant croc with fins.

*shrugs* doesn't seem too credible, but then again, I'm in a debunking mood tonite.

no probs

even if this essay is not as credible as first thought it does suggest that current thinking among historian, scholars, scientist and the ilk need to rethink thier ideas on prehistory and how humans came into being especially when strange artifacts that seem to be built by human hands predate any previous info on human history which cant be dismissed out of hand. In other words, as stellar and others have to agree, ther is only so much to debunk if old artifacts are found which cant be properly explained or scientist claim shouldnt exist, but they do and are staring at u right in the face.

I don't agree with this statement in the essay at all, but I am quite open to the possibility that other human races existed before on our planet. However, looking at the reference list I don't see any credible scientific source of information.

I do believe man predates that which historians prove. I'm merely saying this article doesn't prove anything. In fact, I consider it more of a threat to the cause because it makes people question whether or not all sources that try to debunk popular theory of human existance are credible.


I agree that we have found immaculate structures that predate "intelligent man," and that there was technology and knowledge far superior to what is proven.

Notice I use the word proven - Science is based in fact - and although some historians and scientists believe humans are older than proven - they have no way to prove it, and therefore it is not credible.

A Whale blowing air out it "blow-hole", creating mist in the air that resembles steam? Leviathan could be just a whale...Since the ocean and everything in it were mysterious, and still are...

Hm..good call with the steam, bro. Idunno what to make of the land-ridden dinos tho ..seems credible enuff imho lol

- Dark

Kimoto dragons, alligators, crocidiles.

monitor lizards, extinct reptile species etc...

Such as dinosaurs?

remember, not all extinct reptile species are dinosaurs....

And not all reptile species from way back then are extinct either.

like crocs etc, yeh im talkin mainly reps like this

lol To clarify, I was saying that Im not quite sure what to make of the dinosaurs described in the Bible. (All that info is in the link I provided a few posts back). Sumone starting ranting that 'Oh the Bible never mentions dinosaurs therefore its all fake blah blah blah' so I posted that link showing references to Dinos in the Bible.

- Dark

I know I was just adding my 2 1/2 cents worth.

lol *chuh-ching!* Every little bit helps

- Dark

Inflation.

*adds a quarter to the fund*

I might be goin off to college afterall! lol

- Dark

I believed that the Bible has been corrupted by men, imagine in old times
where the priests hides it from the common people and only them, who
could read it, and, interpret it according to what is comfortable for them
to follow. And, there's too many pages, i believed that had been hidden
or lost.

In my own opionion, science, history or biblical account, spirituality and
supernatural goes hand in hand. They are not working and cannot be
explained completely, one without the other.

Ok, ill just based my opinion on the bible, since scientist dont know all
things yet. Dinosaurs, Leviathan, Dragons and other creatures or
animals exist first, then humans are the last in the creation.

It does make sense that everything is completely created or exist,
then, us humans, so we could enjoy earth at its best.

With the booming technology of civilian space flight (Virgin Galactic,
SpaceDev) . We, the people of the earth had been blatantly and
completely denied of the whole truth regarding our earth where
we live, will one day, know without a doubt that our earth is Hollow,
that their are inhabitants in there.

There is no flight direct from north pole to south pole....GPS's had
been doctored.

Civilian Space Flight, hope the government will not interfere your progress.

And what if....everything that we had been taught in school are mostly
false ideas from scientist?????

Just when I thought you couldnt get any more insane... you pull out the "Hollow Earth" crap...

Stellar did you catch this one?Scientific facts are false?

you all did know the world was flat ? scientist can get out of bed on the wrong side too!

what about that gateway pentium 2 that the guy dug up from a strata dateing back to the ice age ?

did ice age cave men have pentium 2 technology ?--LOL

i'm still waiting for them "flying cars "!

Yeah I caught it... but the person's a complete nut job, as I found out after that hollow earth statement. It wasnt worth mentioning that last part.