A load of pics of nessie...

Info - Plesiosaur.Origin is Loch Ness,Scotland.

And more...

And yes,some more...

the 3rd and 4th are pics of the Lake Van Monster in Turkey......

Hmm,are you sure about that?

I noticed that.

Alot of those pics have been posted before, but it's handy haveing them here, as a reference page kind of thing.

That's the idea,all these are references

Anyone else have pics they wanna add?

I think you posted them all CR

But some of those are convincing.

Lol yea,most,but sometimes some people find some in less obvious places that are harder to be found.And yes,many are convincing.

I generally find that if a pic is fuzzy or distant, people say it's fake, but if it's not, 'its too good to be true! Must be a fake!'

Yea i know what you mean.Question to the skeptics: What SHOULD a pic of a crypto look like,cuz it seems impossible to please those damn skeptics...

Pics 4 and 5 in your first post are from Lake Champlain I think. Great pics Canadian!

Lol,i think i mixed up a few,but hey,they're all cool And thanx

I personnally dont want to talk to you anymore because of your ignorance on this subject.


lol, joking. Yeah, those pics are great.

The third picture on the third post is actually believed to be a sighting of Ogopogo in Okonagan Lake. But as you said, you did mix them up...

Good finds by the way!

the 11th one looks kind of fake

Heres my opinion and some facts on each picture:

The first post:

The first three images are sonar images based on submarine pictures. They were titled I believed the "Flipper" pictures - its believed to be the flipper of Nessie, the plesiosaur.

The fourth and fifth look like a typical hoax, its head is way to jutted out of the lake for it to be a true picture - who would be expecting it to just "pop up" and take such a clean, neat picture?

The sixth and seventh look as if it were a "typical hoax loch ness toy submarine".

Eighth, ninth, and tenth are so hard to see that it could be anything (a dead fish, part of a sea creature, a change in the tide, a twig/branch/log).

The eleventh was photoshopped, cleverly.

Twelve, its a nice picture of Loch Ness, but no where in sight is the Loch Ness Monster.

Thirteen, I could guarentee its a twig sticking up floating along with the tide.

Fourteen and fifteen are so hard to see what is actually being taken a picture of, it could be a floating log or a big chunk of ice floating for all we know.

The second post:

The first, a picture could of just been made and added to look as if it were zoomed up at (hoax).

The second is a total definite toy.

The third and fourth are so unclear it could a picture of me...

The third post:

The first two could simply be anything, the second could be a strange floor animal or a coral possibly.

The third is a picture taken to what is believed Ogopogo.

The fourth, fifth, and sixth - their is spikes sticking out the water...it could be a hoax, and it could be real.

Seven, eight, nine, and ten - nothing in sight, can't tell whats actually being pointed at.

Eleven - its a whales tail...The flipper part as it comes back down diving into the ocean.

wow great pics.. those are all of the ones ive seen before and a few more....but i beleive some of them arnt nessie.. cuzz one is the famous mansii....ok i dont remember how to spell it but that pic of Champ which is so contravercial...i dont even think its all that great of a pic...

thanx for posting all the perdy pictures....i'm off to bed..... later

Champ and Ogopogo were included by CR realized that, lol.

Ok,thanx.

I think some are probably fake,but most are real...

And thanx for that too

You have probably discussed this one but I was not here then... if so what was the conclusion?

Thanks for shareing XSAS.

No problem... has this picture been discussed in earlier postings?

Wait, which picture are you specifically discussing?

Go back through the forum and I posted a news article?

Aah, yes - I believe that was proven to be hoaxed. The head is way far too jutted out of the lake. Many conclusions could of been made based on this large head sticking out. A conclusion would of definitley been made about the Loch Ness Monster, worldwide if that article were to be true. That the Loch Ness Monster has been proven to be real in that of a form of a bronchosaurus or plesiosauraus, etc. But thats not the case showing that the pictures are most likely hoaxed.

It's most likely fake,but still interesting.I have a larger image here...

The images are strange with the head size but the final one where it splashed into the water looked impressive... anyone else have any opinions on these pics???

Yea,cuz there is a chance this is real,so it's still cool...

That is what I am saying... we dismiss the pics becuase we don't see what we want to see... like the head and neck size and structure as we imagine Nessie to be??? but when you study the splashes as it hits the water they rise of the splash is consitent with the size and force when the structure hits the water??? Do you agree?

I agree, but I think it goes without saying.

Well its not like I want every picture to be fake, which is exactly opposite - But of course their is always a chance for it to be true, but this one - just have hard times believing it...

Rather than just dismissing it can you elaborate on why you can't believe it?

Sure.

The head of this dinosaur or what is to believed to be a dinosaur is jutted out of the lake water extremely high, obviously. If this were a true and "proven-to-be-real" picture, many conclusions could be made. That it could be a brontosauraus due to the resemblence of a brontosauraus's head from the Loch Ness Monster's head. And this would be all over the news. Nessie - Proven to exist and be a real dinosaur. But thats personally my opinion and sorry if I upset you on your beliefs, but I really do just have hard times specifically believing in this picture itself.

Does this have to be the head of nessie... I don't know if Nessie is a Dino or a large eel, CR and I discussed the possibility of her being a Plessie paying frequent visits to the Loch on a migration run...

My question was the picture is accurate when the thing hits the water, from the speed fo the movemnet left to right and the height of the splashes... this would be an expensive fake to make?

Well a plesiosaur has a head identical to the one of the loch ness monster's. Long and thin, resembling a long curved branch. And it doesn't have to be the head of Nessie but what other part might it be (don't think dirty now!?)

An expensive fake to make indeed I agree. But people just love making hoaxes and love fooling people, people like us. But that is my opinion.

Some people love to make fakes, like the Cardiff Giant. It definately looks fake. If it's a plesiosaur, then it's just snapped its neck. In my opinion, Nessie only exists in the minds of a few Scots, hungry for tourism.

Proof of Cardiff's Giants Hoax:

The Cardiff Giant is a fake fossil of an antediluvian giant some ten feet high with 21 inch feet. The "fossil" is actually a carved slab of gypsum, sculpted a year or two before its "discovery" in 1869. The fake was the idea of George Hull, a cigar manufacturer and atheist, and a distant relation Stubb Newell, who owned the farm in Cardiff, New York, where the hoax was perpetrated. Experts almost immediately suspected the "fossil" was not a fossil, but their warnings went unheeded. Scientists declaring the fake a fake did not deter visitors, who shelled out 50 cents each to see the "Goliath." Rumor had it that the "fossil" was proof of the Bible's accuracy about giants such as Goliath. The curious came in the hundreds per day to the remote upstate New York farm for a view of Biblical history.

Within a week of its "discovery," Newell sold three-fourths of his interest in the Giant to a syndicate in Syracuse, New York, for $30,000. Business was so good that P.T. Barnum wanted to get in on the action. He offered to rent the giant for just three months to take on the road with his circus, but Newell and the syndicate wouldn't deal. So Barnum had a duplicate made and charged people to see a fake of the fake. It is said that when both were displayed in New York City at the same time, Barnum's fake of the fake outdrew the real fake (Feder, 36).

Kenneth Feder, in his book on myths and frauds in archaeology, sees the Cardiff Giant episode as a familiar one:

Trained observers such as professional scientists had viewed the Giant and pronounced it be an impossibility, a statue, a clumsy fraud, and just plain silly. Such objective, rational, logical, and scientific conclusions, however, had little impact. A chord had been struck in the hearts and minds of many otherwise levelheaded people, and little could dissuade them from believing in the truth of the Giant. Their acceptance of the validity of the giant was based on their desire...to believe it (Feder, 37).

In short, often the skepticism toward scientific experts is not rooted in the desire to believe only what the evidence supports, but in a desire to believe what one wants to believe regardless of the evidence.

Here is a picture of what the plesiosaur looked like or what it was believed to look like:

Not familiar with cardiff giant... but yes I agree fakes will always be there. M... not thinking dirty minded but that in my opinion (unless a clever fake) is something real???? This is what I was saying earlier... we think Plessie everytime we hear Nessie mentioned but plessie would not have all the humps some pics show...

Maybe we are looking at some giant eal??? There are masses of eels in the Loch... I don't know?? what do you think?

Well the giant humps may not look like what it really is. The humps could be parts of the plesiosaurus (if thats what it is) body (i.e. flippers, tail, maybe even head!)

Of course it could be a giant eel. Either overgrown or mutated, it is definitley a large possibility. ,

How many humps do you think a Plessie could make without distorting itself... I don't think it would be more than 2/3 and that is using it's neck??

Why, has their been pictures taken in Loch Ness that show several humps, because if their has been - Maybe it was just any ordinary strange lake creature, but not Nessie.

Yes I have seen a few pics with several humps in fact I think CR posted a few at the beginning of this Thread?

Let us remember that some men already claimed responsabilaty for the famouse 1933 picture. One even claimed that it was him with a serpent head model, and purposely waited until someone took a picture before swimming away.

As well as that, the size of that object isn't consistent with the water rings. I'd say from that it's a foot and a half big, however all the people said the creature was 30 feet out and must have been at least 15 feet.

I don't beleive in the 1933 picture; Hoax. I do however, beleive most of the pictures yet to surface.

The picture CR provided with several humps was a picture taken in Lake Okonogan and believed to be Ogopogo - its not taken in the Loch Ness and is not Loch Ness. Ogopogo's description does match several humps on its neck to its tail. Are their any other pictures of what is to be Loch Ness with several humps located outside of the water?