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Heavens Angel
Face to Face with the Unknown is a book about young peoples stories with their encounters with the unknown. After reading this book and being on this website I have realized there is more out there then what we think. Ya sure aliens, bigfoot, ghosts and whatever but what about the other things like are there still living dinosaurs? Is there more to Bigfoot then what we think? There are so many things being hidden from us that we have no idea about.After being told so many times there are no monsters under our bed, well what if there are? What if theres another galaxy out there that holds so many answers to our mysteries but we can never reach it? Some people say to leave these things alone and others want the answers. So whats your choice?
Seraphina
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Ya sure aliens, bigfoot, ghosts and whatever but what about the other things like are there still living dinosaurs?


Aliens - the laws of average make it virtually impossible that there are no other planets out there on which life evolved. The universe is so unutterably vast that there simply have to be other places where it's happened...I just don't think they have (or are ever likely to) pay us a visit.

Bigfoot - I'm an avid believer in bigfoot myself...

Living dinosaurs - possible...I don't rule it out. Although if any such creature did exist today it wouldn't be a carbon copy of any known species of dinosaur. Evolution goes on, and the animal would have changed to adapt to its new environment.

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What if theres another galaxy out there that holds so many answers to our mysteries but we can never reach it?


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Of course there are other galaxies out there huh.gif

Anyway..uh...can't say I've read the book in question anyway...are you...specifically intending to talk about the book, or just start a conversation about some of the issues and stories brought up in it?
Dark_Grey
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I choose to get answers sleep.gif
Mysteryman
If I were given the choice to either leave "those" things alone or search for the answers, honestly, my choice would be to search for the answers. I dont see why not? Many of the people in this world who are actually into the unexplainable mysteries of the world and actually have curiosity about the unknown - there would probably be a majority of people going to search. Its really hard for a human to utter the words "I don't know" because all they want to know is the truth behind the mystery. What is it? Can I find it? Can we find it? I don't see why it could hurt? (Besides the fact that involving yourself in the mystery such as finding Bigfoot, or going near the Bermuda Triangle). So I would have to say I would search for the answer and hopefully when I'm older, I'll enter these topics for my career and have my own search.
Heavens Angel


Anyway..uh...can't say I've read the book in question anyway...are you...specifically intending to talk about the book, or just start a conversation about some of the issues and stories brought up in it?
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No I was just hoping to see what you guys would do. Bring up a conversation about what you think is really out there. original.gif
Seraphina
lol....that's a very difficult question to answer...the simple fact is that even the life on earth we know about is so incredibly varied and incredible that we probably can't really begin to imagine what we havn't seen yet...let alone what life might be on other planets (although, again, I certain think alien life is out there but the chances of us ever find it, or it finding us, are next to non-existant...like two fish at opposite ends of the ocean trying to find each other).
Heavens Angel
True. So what about crop circles. Are they just hoaxes?
Mysteryman
Lets say: If I were the richest man alive, richer than Bill Gates, or J.K. Rowling, etc. I would make a bet all of my money that their is life out their, intelligent or not, green or not. Thats how sure I am that their is life out their. You have total rights to say "well how do you know" or "theirs no evidence", but think about it. We cant be the only "ball" of life out their in the number beyond what we have of space. Their is so much space, trillions and trillions, probably infinite. We CANT be the only thing that lives. For me, its impossible. And trust me, I would make a bet if I had that much money.


98.7% of the crop circles made throughout all the countries in the world are believed to be hoaxes. It has been proven that it could be done by humans. The government actually once asked a team who was caught doing it to actually do their crop circle thing and it would be recorded. The other 2.3% are crop circle shapes that are almost impossible to create due to heavy mathematics.

Check these sites out:

http://www.greatdreams.com/crop/hoax/hoax.htm

http://www.askmen.com/toys/special_feature...al_feature.html

http://www.csicop.org/hoaxwatch/cropcircles.html

http://www.greatdreams.com/crpcirc.htm

http://www.unmuseum.org/cropcir.htm

Seraphina
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True. So what about crop circles. Are they just hoaxes?


I don't honestly know enough about crop circles to say one way or another...I would certainly say that they are so easily faked (as has been demonstrated time and time again) that it's very difficult to place any reliability in them at all.
Heavens Angel
I'm not saying at all that theres nothing out there. I just want to see what you think is out there.
Seraphina
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The other 2.3% are crop circle shapes that are almost impossible to create due to heavy mathematics.


I simply don't think it's likely that any advanced race would take such great pains to avoid contact with us, and yet at the same time leave such obvious clues to their visitations.
Mysteryman
Crop circles are what people say to be the bottom of the UFO craft which would land on the farm and leave an imprint. What would the spacecraft land for? In the middle of a field? Besides that, I don't believe that extraterrestials have LANDED on our planet, but I believe they have VISITED our planet. So based on that, as you know, I extremely highly believe in extra terrestrials.

Here is a crop circle that was proved to be created by man. It was to show that a team of people could do it.

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Well, honestly (not trying to start an argument), but the bottom of their spacecraft might not be made for design, but something to help it fly or something beyond, and when they land on our fields, they wouldn't have a choice to leave an imprint or not. But actually I'm against that and thats why I'm agreeing with you.
Heavens Angel
QUOTE(Seraphina @ Mar 6 2005, 12:05 PM)
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True. So what about crop circles. Are they just hoaxes?


I don't honestly know enough about crop circles to say one way or another...I would certainly say that they are so easily faked (as has been demonstrated time and time again) that it's very difficult to place any reliability in them at all.
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I agree with you they could definetly be hoaxes. I've seen many people able to make them. But what about cow mutilation when there eyes have been sucked out and there is no blood left in them at all?
Seraphina
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But what about cow mutilation when there eyes have been sucked out and there is no blood left in them at all?


As this is the cryptozoology section, and not the UFO section, we could use this as an excuse to get on the topic of Chupacabra tongue.gif
Heavens Angel


98.7% of the crop circles made throughout all the countries in the world are believed to be hoaxes. It has been proven that it could be done by humans. The government actually once asked a team who was caught doing it to actually do their crop circle thing and it would be recorded. The other 2.3% are crop circle shapes that are almost impossible to create due to heavy mathematics.

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So your saying that these crop circles are made bythemselves? but how is that possible?
Heavens Angel


As this is the cryptozoology section, and not the UFO section, we could use this as an excuse to get on the topic of Chupacabra tongue.gif
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True true!
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Mysteryman
The "Blood Sucking Animal" (Chupacabra) is believed to be the farm animal mutilator/blood sucker/etc. Their have been many, many reports on mutilated cows from many angry farmers. One night, all the cattle would be fine, and in the morning, some of the cows eyes would be perfectly cut out, the skin would be perfectly opened in a pattern, the rectum/anus of some cows would be a perfectly made larger whole, etc.

Here are some pictures of some examples:

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Seraphina
In future, it would probably be better to provide such pictures as a link, with a warning about their content...some members might find them disturbing, and not want to see them tongue.gif
Heavens Angel
Uhh! Thats pretty disguisting! But could they kill awhole farm of cows, sheep, chickens and even a dog?
Mysteryman
Sorry Seraphina, grin2.gif

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98.7% of the crop circles made throughout all the countries in the world are believed to be hoaxes. It has been proven that it could be done by humans. The government actually once asked a team who was caught doing it to actually do their crop circle thing and it would be recorded. The other 2.3% are crop circle shapes that are almost impossible to create due to heavy mathematics.

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So your saying that these crop circles are made bythemselves? but how is that possible?
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A majority of the crop circles found are manmade, created by humans using the special technique. The other percent of the crop circles are found are extreme to the max complicated and would be extremely hard for a team of men to do, which would actually take more than one night to do.
Mysteryman
QUOTE(Heavens Angel @ Mar 6 2005, 12:22 PM)
Uhh! Thats pretty disguisting! But could they kill awhole farm of cows, sheep, chickens and even a dog?
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Well whatever it is, either a chupacabra, UFO mutilators, or hoaxes, it could basically happen to any animal, but mostly it occurs on farm animals (horses, cows, deer, sheep, etc.)
Seraphina
To me knowledge, there's never been a claim of an entire farm wiped out by a chupa...certainly not overnight...if there was, I would instantly dismiss such a story as a fabrication - it would not make sense for any predator to gorge itself in such a manner. Not only would it probably have trouble moving for a good while afterwards, but it makes no sense to slaughter your entire food source in one sitting.
Mysteryman
Supporting what Seraphine said, due to that, theirs never been a reporting of that many animals mutilated at once. From what I know, theirs only been one reporting of a mutilation by a farmer. I'm sure it has never happened to two animals owned by a farmer, maybe at different times though.
Heavens Angel
QUOTE(Seraphina @ Mar 6 2005, 12:23 PM)
To me knowledge, there's never been a claim of an entire farm wiped out by a chupa...certainly not overnight...if there was, I would instantly dismiss such a story as a fabrication - it would not make sense for any predator to gorge itself in such a manner. Not only would it probably have trouble moving for a good while afterwards, but it makes no sense to slaughter your entire food source in one sitting.
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Actually, sry, the chickens were not mutalated but they were frozen stiff. And they were all over the place and just in one night now thats really weird?!
Seraphina
I'm not sure I understand that....do you mean to say they were frozen in fear by something? (I can't imagine chickens have a long enough memory to be scared of something for very long, so I might cast down on such a story).

On the other hand, you say they weren't mutilated, but they were "all over the place"...doesn't that amount to much the same thing? huh.gif
Mysteryman
I couldn't find much on "frozen" chickens...
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