Conspiracy
Mar 6 2005, 06:57 PM
Im new here sorta so im not really sure if this will belong here and ya so well this is the point of my post lol, latly ive been hearing stories of many extinct animals that are still alive, lets start like this.. The DoDo bird is said to be extinct from the early centuries but theres been stories of turkey sized birds that look like dodo birds wondering on the island they use to live on.. also people think that there might still be Dodo birds on a couple unexplored islands in the area of the original island.. dont really remember all the names or the links cause i looked this stuff up late last night. The Moa a giant bird that used to live in New Zealand supposed to be extinct since the 1400's

or so but latly theres been some seen by tourists or explorers in the southern bush's of New Zealand. Theres many more but those are the main 2 im pointing out to.
Wonder what everyone else thinks.
/Conspiracy
Mysteryman
Mar 6 2005, 07:04 PM
Welcome to the forum Conspiracy and yes, this would be a topic that belongs in cryptozoology.
The dodo bird is a bird that is now "believed" to be extinct. Their have been scattered sightings every now and then between many years that turkey-sized birds with a description of what a dodo bird looks like has been seen. I personally believe that they do exist, as you said, on islands either unexplored or islands really, never visited.
Heres some sites/pictures based on the dodo bird:
http://www.birds.mu/Extinct/Dodo.htmhttp://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/expedition...dodo.html?dinoshttp://www.davidreilly.com/dodo/books/new_...wscientist.htmlPictures:



The Moa Bird:
I'm not really familiar with the moa bird so I just provided some sites and pics:
http://www.museum.ie/images/homepages/blue_main_home.gifhttp://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_...606/ai_n8755132http://www.nzbirds.com/Moa.html
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Doc_Holliday
Mar 6 2005, 07:08 PM
If They are still around be assured I will work my hardest to find kill and eat them.

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Mysteryman
Mar 6 2005, 07:10 PM
That was a joke, right?
Conspiracy
Mar 6 2005, 07:18 PM
i hope thats a joke cause id hate to see a species go extinct.. bad enough its predicted that by 50 years half of the worlds endagered species are gonna go extinct.
btw mystery thanks for the links!
Doc_Holliday
Mar 6 2005, 07:20 PM
LOL yes. Forgive my tastless sence of humor.
Mysteryman
Mar 6 2005, 07:46 PM
QUOTE(Conspiracy @ Mar 6 2005, 02:18 PM)
i hope thats a joke cause id hate to see a species go extinct.. bad enough its predicted that by 50 years half of the worlds endagered species are gonna go extinct.
btw mystery thanks for the links!

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No problem -
So if the endangered species will all die out in about 50 years, I want you guys to see which animals will no longer exist on this planet:
http://library.thinkquest.org/19689/data/esframe.html
Conspiracy
Mar 6 2005, 08:00 PM
i never knew salmon were endangered species! thats amazing to see.. sad to see that were suppose to fix these problems but most things cant get fixed cause no matter what happens the problems will still take them all out
Mysteryman
Mar 6 2005, 08:07 PM
Salmon (I thought) was captured every single day and sold because my parents eat it, a lot. That is pretty sad...
Conspiracy
Mar 6 2005, 08:09 PM
ya lots of people eat them but i thought since thier always being cought and thier always breeding that they arent endangered but i guess im wrong
MJB222
Mar 6 2005, 08:12 PM
The ivory billed woodpecker is another extinct bird thats been showing up.

I personly believe they are still around, and I would like to believe the great auk is still around.
Conspiracy
Mar 6 2005, 08:14 PM
never heared of those 2 before, ill go look them up a bit later when i got the time i guess, also theres one type of bird called the Passenger pigeon that went extinct in 1914, i read about it like a year ago so i dont really remember, ever since its extinction theyve never been seen so they may be gone forever

also heres a link to extinct animals:
http://www.petermaas.nl/extinct/english.htmgotta look on the side in "Lists" itll show the choices there
Seraphina
Mar 6 2005, 08:18 PM
The thing about the dodo is that it was unique to the island it was found on...as a flightless bird, it was incapable of migrating to other parts of the world, or even to nearby islands. If there have been sightings of it on other islands, I'd be skeptical....
As for their home island, well...it's possible that a handful were left alive. It depends entirerly on the size of the island...I'm not really an expert on the dodo
MJB222
Mar 6 2005, 08:24 PM
QUOTE(Conspiracy @ Mar 6 2005, 01:14 PM)
never heared of those 2 before, ill go look them up a bit later when i got the time i guess, also theres one type of bird called the Passenger pigeon that went extinct in 1914, i read about it like a year ago so i dont really remember, ever since its extinction theyve never been seen so they may be gone forever

also heres a link to extinct animals:
http://www.petermaas.nl/extinct/english.htmlink to rediscovered animals:
http://www.petermaas.nl/extinct/english.htmlink to extinct animals in the wild:
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One was a large woodpecker and the other was a large penguin-like seabird that couldn't fly.
Mysteryman
Mar 6 2005, 08:30 PM
QUOTE(Conspiracy @ Mar 6 2005, 03:09 PM)
ya lots of people eat them but i thought since thier always being cought and thier always breeding that they arent endangered but i guess im wrong

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Thats exactly what I thought.
QUOTE(MJB222 @ Mar 6 2005, 03:12 PM)
The ivory billed woodpecker is another extinct bird thats been showing up.

I personly believe they are still around, and I would like to believe the great auk is still around.

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Heres a site based on the Ivory Billed Woodpeckers Exctinction:
http://birds.cornell.edu/ivory/http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/IBW.htmlInformation on the Great Auk:
http://www.qc.ec.gc.ca/faune/oiseaux_menac...pingouin_e.htmlhttp://www.cdli.ca/CITE/great_auk.pdfIvory Billed Woodpecker:


The Great Auk:

Conspiracy
Mar 6 2005, 08:42 PM
should make a time machine go back in time and catch some bring them back into the present and breed them! so then they wont be extinct anymore.. but that might never happen
Mysteryman
Mar 6 2005, 08:49 PM
Haha, that will never (not might), never happen. I don't think we'll ever find out the technology to do that. But what I think scientists are starting to do is collect DNA samples from the endangered species and using the DNA as an experimental cloning system, they hope to create the animals using the DNA.
Conspiracy
Mar 6 2005, 08:55 PM
ya... must save the animals so atleast our kids or thier kids will be able to see these animals instead of hearing stories of them
Mysteryman
Mar 6 2005, 09:00 PM
Or seeing pictures of them. But remember, they do have film. Something we didnt have to see the dodo bird or the ivory billed penguin, etc. Atleast they can see what the animal was/looked like/what it ate/what it did/what it was adapted to/etc.
Conspiracy
Mar 6 2005, 09:52 PM
ya but it be best if they saw the animals still alive then just tapes of the history of when they still existed
Mysteryman
Mar 6 2005, 09:58 PM
True, I can definitly agree with you on that...
Canadian Rottweiler
Mar 7 2005, 05:09 AM
These creatures are all very interesting,and i believe they still exist.They once did,so who's to say they still don't.
Mad Manfred
Mar 7 2005, 06:54 AM
The Dodo is defintely extinct...didn't you watch Ice Age?
PS. could there be a more useless bird?
Canadian Rottweiler
Mar 7 2005, 07:00 AM
Yea,but it could still be out there...
And yea,it is a pretty useless bird.
Walken
Mar 7 2005, 02:35 PM
No bird is useless. They all served a purpose for life, and that was to live, which (until extinction) they performed admirably.
MJB222
Mar 7 2005, 05:04 PM
Every living thing is useful, it either serves as food, brings down populations, or helps another living thing survive.
Walken
Mar 7 2005, 05:32 PM
Uh-huh. And if but one didn't exsist, there'd be chaos.
Walken
Mar 7 2005, 05:32 PM
Uh-huh. And if but one didn't exsist, there'd be chaos.
The Roswell Man
Mar 7 2005, 05:34 PM
QUOTE(MJB222 @ Mar 7 2005, 06:04 PM)
Every living thing is useful, it either serves as food, brings down populations, or helps another living thing survive.
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what seems interesting though is the lack of fear of man has led to many creatures undoing including (that and other species bring to new lands disturb balance of ecosystem)
poor things!!
Walken
Mar 7 2005, 05:39 PM
I say it all the time, but remember:
Humans are a phase, a stage, of evoloution. They're not the final product. Their not the masters of this earth.
The Roswell Man
Mar 7 2005, 05:43 PM
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 7 2005, 06:39 PM)
I say it all the time, but remember:
Humans are a phase, a stage, of evoloution. They're not the final product. Their not the masters of this earth.
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first time i heard u say that
tho i dont hang around 2 much in theses forums
hope humans become super intelligent enuff to think of peace first rather than war and live in a utopian society free of crime, hunger and all of humanes ills (probs jus a pipe dream

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Walken
Mar 7 2005, 05:47 PM
"I've got it made,
I've got it down.
I am the king,
of this god damn town.
I'm on my own,
I'm on my way-hey-hey..
Down Utopia,
(utopia)
Utopia Parkway!"
The Roswell Man
Mar 7 2005, 05:55 PM
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 7 2005, 06:47 PM)
"I've got it made,
I've got it down.
I am the king,
of this god damn town.
I'm on my own,
I'm on my way-hey-hey..
Down Utopia,
(utopia)
Utopia Parkway!"
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MJB222
Mar 7 2005, 06:02 PM
Whats Utopia?
Walken
Mar 7 2005, 06:03 PM
Look at my avatar, look at the lyrics, then search Utopia Parkway on google. Then you'll understand.
MJB222
Mar 7 2005, 06:42 PM
Oh.
Did Dodos have any preditors or did they live their lives preditor free? (not including humans)
Walken
Mar 7 2005, 06:46 PM
I'm prettey sure they did, but my knowledge on dodo's isn't exactly excessive. I'm sure someone will know.
XSAS
Mar 7 2005, 06:55 PM
I believe the Dodo was indigenous to Madagascar, I have been there wonderful Island... If I am correct and I think I am then they would have had many predators, big cats etc... and a big fat flightless bird would be an easy target.
MJB222
Mar 7 2005, 07:04 PM
Maybe, theres penguins on Madagascar
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Mar 7 2005, 07:52 PM
It is all a natural food chain, whether the vegans admit it or not. Humans are on the top right now.
Mysteryman
Mar 7 2005, 08:22 PM
Just because the dodo bird was on a isolated island doesn't mean that it wont have other living things on their island.
Any animal larger, carnivourous, would be its predator.
XSAS
Mar 7 2005, 09:40 PM
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Mar 7 2005, 09:22 PM)
Just because the dodo bird was on a isolated island doesn't mean that it wont have other living things on their island.
Any animal larger, carnivourous, would be its predator.
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This is not just an isloated Island it is the 3rd largest Island in the World?
Mysteryman
Mar 7 2005, 09:44 PM
I'm sorry your right - any animal larger than its size thats carnivourous would be pleased to snack on a dodo...Dodo Snack -
XSAS
Mar 7 2005, 09:52 PM
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Mar 7 2005, 10:44 PM)
I'm sorry your right - any animal larger than its size thats carnivourous would be pleased to snack on a dodo...Dodo Snack -
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I know given the choice on any survival courses I have been on or run... If I saw a Dodo it would certainly be on my evening meal menu.
Mysteryman
Mar 7 2005, 09:53 PM
Unfortunately.
Apocalyptic Cryptid
Mar 7 2005, 10:07 PM
dude that would rock if they were not extinct... thay are the coolest birds
Mysteryman
Mar 7 2005, 10:46 PM
They are pretty cool though most people think their useless. I'm pretty sure their living somewhere in an unexplored island. We can't explore every single island in our huge world.
hamellr
Mar 7 2005, 11:25 PM
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Mar 6 2005, 08:07 PM)
Salmon (I thought) was captured every single day and sold because my parents eat it, a lot. That is pretty sad...
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Wild Salmon. There is a big difference between them and fishery hatched salmon.
Canadian Rottweiler
Mar 7 2005, 11:32 PM
Yes,fishery salmon have their back fin clipped.Wild ones obviously still have that fin.
TooFarGone
Mar 7 2005, 11:36 PM
QUOTE
The thing about the dodo is that it was unique to the island it was found on...as a flightless bird, it was incapable of migrating to other parts of the world, or even to nearby islands. If there have been sightings of it on other islands, I'd be skeptical....
I wouldn't be. They where hunted down a lot. Chances are that there where live ones taken on boats, or that some may have made it to boats. This could have very welll brought them to other islands, on which they may live today. I think its deffenitly possible that any "extinct" creature may be still around today. I mean, the cocleanth was thought to be dead for millions of years, untill some where found in the 1930's. And with the recent sighting and lleged pictures of the thylacine, its all very possible.
~Jeremy
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