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Mysteryman
Heres all the information about Chupacabras AKA Blood Sucking Creatures:

The single most notable cryptozoological phenomenon of the past decade is undoubtedly El Chupacabras, the fearsome Goatsucker of Latin America. The legend of this livestock-slaughtering monster was born in small villages in Puerto Rico in 1995, and quickly spread to Mexico and Hispanic communities in the United States, ultimately becoming a worldwide sensation like no unexplained creature since the Bigfoot film of 1967.

El Chupacabras was preceded by a Puerto Rican monster known as the Moca Vampire, which had been reported in conjunction with a rash of UFO sightings in 1975. A number of farmers discovered animals massacred after strange lights appeared in the sky. Investigators examining the slain animals, which included ducks, goats, geese and cows, noted with astonishment that they had been completely drained of blood with almost surgical precision. The Moca Vampire was apparently never sighted firsthand, but perhaps whatever it was possesses some connection to the creature that made itself known 20 years later.

In March 1995, the Puerto Rican towns of Orocovis and Morovis began to be plagued by some force that was mysteriously murdering their animals. The carcasses of goats, chickens and other small farm animals were reported to be thoroughly exsanguinated, with the blood often said to have been drained out through a single neat puncture wound.

The first sightings of the creature were reported around September of that year. Madelyne Tolentino and other witnesses described the creature as a sort of a cross between a kangaroo, a gargoyle, and the pop-culture conception of the alien "Grey." It was said to be about four feet tall, with a large, round head, a lipless mouth, sharp fangs and huge, lidless red eyes. Its body was small, with scrawny, clawed arms and webbed bat wings, and muscular hind legs that appeared to be built for jumping. The creature also had a series of pointy spikes running from the top of its head down its backbone. Paranormal investigator Jorge Martin drew a sketch based on these descriptions (as shown on this page), which rapidly became the classic visual image of El Chupacabras, as the local media had dubbed the monster. The name, of course, is Spanish for "the Goatsucker."

Sightings and slain livestock continued to be reported in various parts of Puerto Rico throughout the fall of 1995. The Goatsucker allegedly killed 11 goats in the town of San German, and on one occasion a group of townspeople said they chased the creature away as it was attempting to kill three roosters. In Canovanas, seemingly an epicenter of Chupacabras activity with more than 150 animal slayings reported in 1995, the town's Mayor Jose "Chemo" Soto sanctioned paramilitary patrols to hunt down the monster. Soto's political candidates accused him of pandering to his constituents' fears, and attempting to capture the anti-Chupacabras vote instead of the creature.

After December, there was a lull in Goatsucker sightings, which some surmised was because the creature withdrew to inactivity during the winter months. And indeed, come springtime El Chupa rose again -- although this resurgence owed more to the mass media than to warm weather. In March 1996, a segment on the Goatsucker appeared on TV talk show Christina, the Spanish-language Univision network's very popular counterpart to Oprah Winfrey. The show drew a tremendous response, and Chupacabras updates became a regular feature of the program. This exposure spearheaded the migration of Chupamania into Mexico and the United States... and, perhaps not coincidentally, also preceded the first sightings of the strange predator in these new lands.

Heres some sites:

http://science.howstuffworks.com/chupacabra.htm

http://www.qsl.net/w5www/chupacabra.html

http://www.io.com/~patrik/pr_ufo.htm

http://paranormal.about.com/od/chupacabra/

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/chupa/chupacabras.dwt

http://incorporateds.faithweb.com/chupacab.htm

http://www.rense.com/general/chupa.htm

The popular pics: (hoax or not)

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http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/galle...?album=15&pos=0

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http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/galle...album=15&pos=38

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http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/galle...album=15&pos=40


Walken
TIP: For more pictures and info, use the search function, and search El Chupacarbra.
MJB222
The only problem is how come all sightins differ. hmm.gif
Mysteryman
I posted this up to help other people for more information. Everything in the cryptozoological page has been discussed but is being re-discussed to have conversations -

QUOTE(MJB222 @ Mar 6 2005, 03:21 PM)
The only problem is how come all sightins differ. hmm.gif
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And thats why I strongly do not believe in chupacabras. No one really knows what it is/what it looks like.
MJB222
But what could be doing that? The cattle rustlers must be very busy.
Mysteryman
The truth is, we have no idea. Sure, it could be a chupacabra (blood sucking creature/goatsucker). But all the descriptions would be totally wrong. What we have thought to be a chupacabra is not. The description of a chupacabra has not yet to be seen.

In order to actually identify what a real chupacabra is (if it is the goatsucker), than someone will have to catch the animal figure making the cow mutilations either in a video or camera and prove to be real. If the figure was seen mutilating the cow, we would now know what a chupacabra is and what it looks like.

Also, many of the mutilations (and I think all) have been done over midnight. If this was true, this could support UFO mutilations. The cause of cow mutilations and animal mutilations could be caused by aliens.

Chupacabras. UFO's/Aliens. Hoaxes. Unknown animals. Who knows what it could be and we'll probably never find out. But hopefully, I'm wrong.
Conspiracy
that third pic looks like a alien with spines tongue.gif i sorta believe in the chupacabra even tho its never been cought or seen really.. its still a mystery and theres TONS of mysteries left on this planet so we may never know till one actually does get captured.
Mysteryman
I think that third picture is an alien grin2.gif (Its a drawing from someone who believes he saw a chupacabra though).

Exactly. Until it is photographed or filmed and proved to be real, the existence of the chupacabra cannot yet be true in existence.
Canadian Rottweiler
Cool stuff thumbsup.gif
Mysteryman
Thank you!
Canadian Rottweiler
Any more pics?
Walken
CR, you of all people know how to find pics.

El Chupacarbra is in most cases mistaken identifty. (from the words of Burnside)
Mysteryman
The chupacabra as to what we know is unknown in its looks.
Walken
Actually we virtually know nothing of chupacarbra, other than the carcasses regularley found, that usually turn out to be dogs and cats.

There are some consistent sightings, which usually look like the dover demon.
weird_dude1394
the first pic reminds me of a tasmainian devil
Mysteryman
Exactly. To what we know of, the chupacabra is most likely fictional (not arguing that its fact or fiction). But no pictures (proved to be real) have ever been taken nor any film. Theirs no DNA traced to the species of a "chupacabra"...
Walken
Uh-huh, but in the past consistent sightings have emerged, like that of the dover demon.
Mysteryman
Your right but we can't prove anything about the chupacabras.

The Dover Demon was drawn by two different people at two different places at two different times and matched descriptions which proves that they really saw something.

Chupacabra sketches - well I'm sure you know...You see so many different drawings of what a chupacabra "could" be.
Canadian Rottweiler
Yea good point.
Walken
Uh-huh.
Canadian Rottweiler
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Fable
Out of all the stories that circulate today, I find the story of the chupacabra to be the hardest to believe. Now don't get me wrong, I suppose anything is a possibility, but this case is just so far stretched.. the rope is about to snap. You take into accord the first aspect of the 'eye-witness' accounts, physical sightings. They vary from little poodle-like animals to towering insectoid creatures. Spikes, wings, multiple legs, two legs, grey bodies, green bodies, furry bodies, scaly bodies, red eyes, black eyes, it can truthfully make your head spin.

Secondly, with as many happenings that occur today, and with this 'creature' being more of a ground-dweller.. I would just like to think that there would be more evidence accumulating. Point being, it's a lot easier to try and identify something on the ground than it is in the sky.

To me, the chupacabra is nothing more than a word for an animal that spooks people until it's identified as something entirely normal.
Canadian Rottweiler
That's all just hozers making up stuff about thos reptilian humanoids and all that crap.I just block out all the junk,and stick with my original belief of what it looks like.
Walken
I actually agree with you on that last sentance, Fable.

It's an over-used term.
Mysteryman
QUOTE(Fable @ Mar 8 2005, 02:33 PM)
Out of all the stories that circulate today, I find the story of the chupacabra to be the hardest to believe. Now don't get me wrong, I suppose anything is a possibility, but this case is just so far stretched.. the rope is about to snap. You take into accord the first aspect of the 'eye-witness' accounts, physical sightings. They vary from little poodle-like animals to towering insectoid creatures. Spikes, wings, multiple legs, two legs, grey bodies, green bodies, furry bodies, scaly bodies, red eyes, black eyes, it can truthfully make your head spin.

Secondly, with as many happenings that occur today, and with this 'creature' being more of a ground-dweller.. I would just like to think that there would be more evidence accumulating. Point being, it's a lot easier to try and identify something on the ground than it is in the sky.

To me, the chupacabra is nothing more than a word for an animal that spooks people until it's identified as something entirely normal.
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Actually, thats a very good point that you made.

The rope is so stretched that anything could break it. If a sketch is drawn to show what a person encountered of what is to be believed the chupacabra and is proved hoaxed, the rope snaps. If the myth is proved hoax, snap!
dragonlady_mothman
I heard something that so-called "vampire kangaroos" (I'm going by memory here) were sighted in the 30's, or at least before El Chupa became popular.

I've also heard that El Chupa can talk!

One sighting report I heard said someone went into their child's bedroom, saw El Chupa on the child's chest, muttering to itself. They reacted as any parent would, screaming and/or throwing things, and El Chupa vanished out the window.
Mysteryman
Information on the "vampire kangaroo":
Scapegoat or Spacething?
For many years now, I've noticed, with alarming regularity, the loyal sycophants and peasantry at Castle Blather tripping over their leg manacles and muttering such bizarre utterances as 'Huh, kangaroos, yeah, what next'. It was only last week that curiosity eventually got the better of me, and nothing would do but for me to whisk a collection of them off to the torture rooms for questioning. The shocking conclusion that I was appalled to reach, after they had been wheeled back to their cubicles and I had collated their wretched accounts, was that an alarmingly large quantity of reported anomalous animals had been described as 'kangaroo-like'.

This puzzled me, since Captain Cook and his crew were reportedly the first Europeans to see kangaroos when their ship 'The Endeavour' reached Australia in 1770, which gave me to wonder, how did we describe the aforementioned mystery animals before this? As devil-like, or as manlike, or perhaps as bird-like?


I will, if I may, present some examples:

The 'Achill Island Monster'. Achill, an island joined to the Irish mainland in west Co. Mayo, had a series of alleged lake monster sightings in the mid to late sixties, with the creature climbing out of a lake or crossing a road. It was described by Graham J. McEwan as having a 'long, thick tail, a swan shaped neck and a head like a sheep or greyhound with glittering eyes. It was dark brown and had shiny skin and, strangest of all, ran on its hind legs, rocking from side to side as it did so'.

Gay Dever, a 15 year old witness said that 'it was much bigger than a horse, black in colour with a long, slender and sheep-looking head, long neck and tail. It moved like a kangaroo and its hind legs were bigger than the front ones'. (Mystery Animals of Ireland and Britain, Graham J. McEwan, 1986, published by Robert Hale, London ISBN 0-7090-2801-6)

Jan Ove-Sundberg has other ideas. 'The most remarkable thing with this incident is that the witness accounts gives a close to perfect description of the carnivorous, supposedly extinct dinosaur Coelophysis! This is how Cooney-McNulty, and the palaeontologist and author E.H. Colbert, describes a Coelophysis: "It was about 2.5-3 meters long and as fully grown had a weight of 25-30 kilos. It had a long neck, a narrowing head and a very long tail. Its legs was long and slender and the frontlegs was shorter than the hindlegs. This dinosaur was carnivorous"'.

In the U.S., The Jersey Devil has been instrumental in frightening the living daylights out of kids since the last century, and has assumed many legendary forms, such as hominoid, a deformed wild child, a cloven hoofed demon, and a 1909 hoax which involved a poor painted kangaroo with glued-on claws and wings. This, of course, brings to mind the 'Devil's Hoofprint' phenomenon in Devonshire, England, reported in The Times on February 16th 1855, and mentioned at the beginning of chapter 28 of Charles Fort's 'Book of the Damned' (ISBN 1-870870-53-0). The hoofprints were found in the snow on the morning of February 8th 1855, over a hundred miles or so of countryside, through numerous villages, on roofs, hedges, the tops of walls, and across rivers two miles wide. Fort tells of a correspondent who reckoned that it was possibly a kangaroo escaped from a menagerie, 'the footprints being so peculiar and far apart gave rise to a scare that the devil was loose'. The fact that the 'hoofprints' were in single lines, rather than in parallel, gave Fort to conclude that 'my own acceptance is that not less than a thousand one-legged kangaroos, each shod with a small horseshoe, could have marked that snow in Devonshire'. [Buy *The Book of the Damned* at the Blather Bookstore]

The Chupacabras phenomenon, a panic which began in Puerto Rico around March 1995, again implicated the unfortunate kangaroo. The Chupacabras, or 'Goat Sucker' is a strange creature 'demonic alien kangaroo vampire' with red glowing eyes and fangs, which has now been blamed for the demise of countless goats, dogs, cats, chickens and various other domestic animals, not only in Puerto Rico, but also Costa Rica, Mexico, Texas, and Florida, and would you believe (I wouldn't) the U.K., Germany and, (ahem) Ballymena, Northern Ireland. For more on the Goat Sucker, follow the Chupacabras links on the Hellshavian Forteana links page. The diatribes against the poor 'roo show no sign of imminent cessation. The recent issue of Fortean Times, FT103 has a article entitled 'There's a Flyin' Marsupial', which reports on the plethora of kangaroo sightings this year, in *Sweden* of all places. How it could possibly survive in the harsh Scandinavian winter is the premier question which bounces to mind. Swedish zoos are apparently missing nothing, and Swedish law doesn't permit the ownership of foreign wild animals which may survive in the wild. Is it really a 'roo?

Why doesn't the wallaby get blamed for any of this? The wallaby is now officially regarded as a wild creature in several countries to which it is not indigenous, including the U.K., and, as I seem to recall, Belgium.

And of course, one has to take large white rabbits into account, such as 'Harvey', fictionally encountered by actor and part-tim Yeti smuggler Jimmy Stewart a.k.a. Elwood P. Dowd, and allegedly seen in Co. Kerry by Robert Anton Wilson. And then of course, there's the Easter Bunny, depicted by Matt Graeber as an extra-terrestrial/rabbit hybrid (Link dead: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/8627/mg8.jpg). But bear in mind that some fictional kangaroos, unlike the marsupial 'Lassie' known as 'Skippy', are no pushover, such as *Tank Girl's* boyfriend Booga, who is likely to shoot first and engage in polite discourse at a later date.

Perhaps some of these sightings could be ascribed to the frolics of a humongous jerboa?

Cryptozoology.com discuss's the same thing: http://www.cryptozoology.com/forum/topic_v...d=19&pid=147721

And as for the "chupas can talk", I think people should be happy that people are even accepting the idea of chupacabras. But chupacabras now talking, comon' - you know how fictional that is!
dragonlady_mothman
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Mar 7 2005, 04:16 PM)
Exactly. To what we know of, the chupacabra is most likely fictional (not arguing that its fact or fiction). But no pictures (proved to be real) have ever been taken nor any film. Theirs no DNA traced to the species of a "chupacabra"...
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I think Proof Positive did El Chupa. I'm pretty sure someone had DNA from an attack. If memory serves, it was found to be chicken (which is the animal it was found on), but it also wasn't kept properly.

I do remember that on Proof Positve, they had a woman who said she'd never forget El Chupa's eyes...but couldn't recall what color they were. hmm.gif Go figure.
Mysteryman
Eeeeeh - I highly doubt this is true. To be bitten by a chupacabra which first of all, has never occurred in human history to of what we know in public wise, and second, to come to a conclusion that a chupacabra which has been face to face with a human being for the first time could be a harm/threat to the human species...
dragonlady_mothman
To my knowledge, El Chupa hasn't attacked a human. I do read the occasional reports about them comming into rooms with people, like someone else who chased some "little grays" out from under his bed. alien.gif

They got the DNA from a chicken, from the bite marks on its neck after a so-called chupa attack. Given enough time, someone, however, someone will claim to have been within touching distance of a cryptid.
Deimos
nicely written MM. great post. thumbsup.gif
TooFarGone
^ As far as I know dragonlady, fictional creatures cant attack humans.

There have been so many sightings, mutilations, and alledged corpses. Most all have been totally inconsistant from the other. I dint believe in chupacabra at all. I think its rather pointless for this to be even discussed as much as it is.
dragonlady_mothman
True, but to my knowledge dogs and cats dont do what El Chupa does. I dont think El Chupa is an alien, mystical monster, or product of failed government expirements...but i think it's something, even if it's just some bored kids.
TooFarGone
Very true. Personnaly, i think Chupacabra is just a wide term that can be used to discribe any unexplainable animal with "vampiric" tendencies.
dragonlady_mothman
and goats have been the ones I've seen least on attack pictures!
TooFarGone
lol, thats true too.
Mysteryman
QUOTE(Monster Hunter X @ Mar 8 2005, 06:06 PM)
nicely written MM. great post. thumbsup.gif
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Thank you grin2.gif

QUOTE(Jeremy_Rumbolt @ Mar 8 2005, 06:15 PM)
Very true. Personnaly, i think Chupacabra is just a wide term that can be used to discribe any unexplainable animal with "vampiric" tendencies.
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Also, anything that has been mutilated or blood sucked dry can be used to be blamed on a chupacabra.
TooFarGone
Thats what I mean...................most things like that that have no known explination can be called a CHupacabra attack.
Mysteryman
Whats funny is that anything found to look messed up (like dead decaying dogs/cats, or roadkill) can be immediatley assumed and concluded as "Hey, its a chupacabra!"
TooFarGone
Exactly! Its such a wide name, for such a wide list of things. I just think its rather funny and stupid.
dragonlady_mothman
QUOTE(Mysteryman @ Mar 8 2005, 06:42 PM)
Whats funny is that anything found to look messed up (like dead decaying dogs/cats, or roadkill) can be immediatley assumed and concluded as "Hey, its a chupacabra!"
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I saw that on para-normal.com. They dried out a sea-skate and called it El Chupa. I've also seen puppets and so forth, plus that panther-like dipiction of a Chupa. It has the look of a picture, with the dead, monotone look of a nonliving representation of a living thing, so my theory is someone is REALLY good at making models.
Mysteryman
Exactly. Like their was this one case where this roadkill dog who looked all mutated and all was said to be the chupacabra. A team was called in and the second they saw it, they immediatley knew it was a dead dog due to a car accident.
Canadian Rottweiler
QUOTE(Jeremy_Rumbolt @ Mar 8 2005, 03:15 PM)
Very true. Personnaly, i think Chupacabra is just a wide term that can be used to discribe any unexplainable animal with "vampiric" tendencies.
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That's basically what i have been saying in past threads.Could be a name,like 'mammals' for a bunch of species,where chupacabra's aren't just one species.
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