For your own sake, do not take "ourworldsbeyond's" advice! Everything he said is his opinion only. One of the most dangerous things you could do is call upon Satan. Satan (or Lucifer) does have a Biblical basis and was not invented by the Catholic church! You need only read the Bible to find that out. Even if you don't personally believe that Satan exists, why take the chance? Others have tried such things for frivolous reasons (in the name of experimentation for example) and regretted it later.

Earthchick! ;-)

You will forgive me for saying so but this is exactly the kind of thing I refer to whenever I speak about 'beliefs'.

Your 'belief' in Satan is so strong that, for you, he exists. Undoubtedly too and, because of what I have said here, you will also 'believe' that Satan is speaking through me.

By pleading with others not to listen to me, your 'belief' is so strong that, you now take it upon youreself to 'save souls'. However, whilst you're doing this yet, what you are also unwittingly doing is also projecting your own 'fear' onto others in the hopes that, if they take this up that it will further bolster your own fear and somehow make you 'right'. By making yourself right in this way, adds strength to the original fear.

Your fear is NOT your own but was handed down to you by those who also feared as much as you do. But Earthchick, I have to tell you that fear, no matter how fearful, does NOT make a thing true. It just makes it more of what it already is - fearful.

Fear, as I have learned, does not get you or me any further out the front door but, instead, keeps us locked up inside. One day, that fear catches up with us until the day finally comes when we realise (after death) that, what we actually feared the most was not satan - but ourselves.

Spreading fear also does not make it go away. It makes it grow. To me therefore, Satan is not a 'person' or an 'entity' but IS fear you see?

A long time ago, I was just like you in that I too feared Satan. In fact, my own grandfather was our own Ordained Reverend Minister and I followed everything he taught me. It was because I loved him so much that I feared Satan just as much and so, avoided facing him at any costs - just like you.

One day, I came face to face with that same dread, that same fear and 'believed' (as you would in my place) that Satan was about to drag me off to hell for all eternity. But, you know what? When I came to face that fear, I found - not 'hell' not 'Satan' - not 'demons' not 'dark entities' but The Truth - that is - The Truth - that is not mine, not yours but a truth that exists above us all. In that truth, neither Satan nor hell can EVER exist because, the REAL truth is that, for all our doubts, fears, apprehensions and superstitions, fear exists only in our own minds but does not exist anywhere else in the universe. The Truth, the one above us all, is filled only with love, wisdom, kindness and an understanding that transcends ALL fears. It is a love that feeds entire creations - including you and me.

Also, what I have shared with everyone here is not merely an *opinion* of mine but is the result of many years of actual (fearLESS) communication with Our Worlds Beyond. Nothing I share is based on anything I may 'believe' or 'think' or is led by anyone else (even with the same to say) but is as a direct result of all that I have learned in those years.

The proof of everything I have said will *always* come with those who would a/ drop their fears b/ forget what they have been 'taught' to 'believe' (as we all have) c/ approach the ouija board with an *open* mind d/ expect nothing, expect everything and be prepared to *learn* or to re-write what was written before concerning otherworldly communications to then allow the TRUTH in without embellishment, subtraction or addition by egos. Do this and ALL will be revealed.

Up until then, until people take it upon themselves to find the courage to do this then, all that I have said can *easily* be dismissed - but cannot ever be dismissed again once found. The truth - the one above us that is NOT *mine* - will be exactly the same for Joe Bloggs down the street as it is for me.

This IS the way forward. It may very well be painful at times but, believe me, it IS worth it in the end. If it wasn't then, you can be assured that I wouldn't be here just to frighten people or to give the wrong information based upon my 'belief' systems. Life is just too short for that you see?

My ultimate goal - if you need to know is this: To help prove the scientific discovery of the human soul. So you see, my goal is a lot higher than one may think it is. But, it's a good one isn't it?

Meantime, I ask no-one to 'believe' anything I say myself. I never do. All I ask is that, if you look *properly* you and everyone else will ALSO see everything that I do and also learn that ALL our fears are absolutely groundless. Fear of the Ouija Board exists ONLY because WE say so. If we can learn to UNsay it then, from this enormous jump, we are all, well on the way to this huge discovery.

To finally prove the existence of the human soul - to bring us all closer to 'All That Is' WILL lead us ALL out of this darkness en masse to a much better place where no wars, age, famine, failure, death and disease can ever exist but only *common* advancement for all time will.

Now then, would Satan ever want this?

I am not Satan Earthchick. But, if I ever was then, ask yourself, would I *really* need a board and planchette to 'get' you? In being the SECOND most powerful source in all existence why, I could be your own blood - your own air - if I wanted to. I wouldn't need 'ouija boards'. I would only need my own will - a will that is far more powerful than your own.

I bring LIGHT Earthchick - not 'fear'.

Now, when I switch the light on, are you going to continue closing your eyes?

It's up to you now.

Bob Daulby

Mr. Daulby........I'll ignore the condescending tone of your post and just get to the nitty-gritty. Fear, at least for myself, was not the catalyst for my post. Am I afraid for those who choose to dabble in evil? Yes, because I believe life is bigger than me and me alone. I personally have no fear of Satan......I have no need to fear him for myself, simply because I chose the other path. When you stop believing that darkness exists, you also stop believing in the light.......so how can you in all conscience claim you bring light? I stand by what I said. It is irresponsible to tell impressionable young people to go ahead and contact evil. You say my post was based on "belief", yet your so-called Truth (with a capital T) is your "belief".


One has to be careful on any message board, but perhaps more so on a board dealing with the paranormal. Even here there can be "wolves in sheep's clothing". I've seen what can happen to young people who become embroiled in Satanism as a "lark". In the same way that I would be fearful for a person about to drive a car off a cliff because he/she was told to, I am fearful for a person who is told to contact Satan. Sometimes fear is a healthy thing. After all, it is part of the human instinct for survival. To fear nothing is to be foolhardy.

Well Char, I see you're still haunting these forums. I agree with you on the subject of summoning Satan to your aide, not only would one expect to be ignored by satan, as I'll be assuming that he has better things to do. It invites a slew of other types of entities to visit themselves upon your life and home. Generally we want to avoid inviting these, less than desirable entities into our lives.

Congrats to 'ourworldsbeyond' for using the word 'fear' or a derivitive of it the most times ever in a single post!

Mr. Daulby,

Your messages contain so many things that set off alarm bells that it's hard to shake a stick at all of them. Suffice to say that your tendency is to assert things as fact that you could not possibly know, and that these things tend to be self-glorifying. Some examples:

1. You have been farther in your paranormal travels than any other living person. Or was it any other person who ever lived? Whatever. It's an extremely dubious claim whose truth value you could not possibly know.

2. Things that others have reported encountering simply do not exist. You say this based on your own allegfed failure to encounter them. I must take issue with your assumption that if they existed, you would have perceived them. It's a baseless assumption on the face of it, and you would see that easily if you weren't so grandiose.

3. When others report experiences that conflict with your own belief, they are lying or distorting, in your words. You do not know this and could not know this, and it takes a certain casual malice to tar others with that brush just because they happen to disagree with you.

4. Those who exercise discretion in whom they would contact and how are merely afraid of themselves (unlike you, we are to believe) or of the capital-T Truth (which has been revealed to you alone in this discussion), both of which fears must be overcome. You are unwilling to consider the very real possibility that we exercise prudence and caution for good reasons that you have failed to recognize. You could not possibly be so certain that this is not the case.

5. Those who pursue the capital-T Truth will inevitably find what you have found. This assumes that those who disagree with you have not pursued the truth already, and that your own research is somehow perfect. Both are grandiose assumptions and impossible for you to know.

You keep insisting that if we only knew about you personally and what you have done, we'd find your views more credible. That's an ad hominem argument. Put another way, it's saying, look at me, look how great I am, you can trust me, I'm different, I know the truth. That is the clarion call of the nutjob. We have no reason to think you have access to any special revelation, and you should know that and should not ask us to think so. Sure, you sprinkle your messages with disclaimers to the effect that you're not asking anyone to believe anything. But all your assertions of fact are egocentric. All your assumptions are self-aggrandizing.

I am not saying that Satan exists beyond our own hallucinations or that the ouija board poses any danger beyond what the user brings to it. I am saying I don't know for sure. You're saying you do, and that's an irrational thing to say.

*gives a high five to boorite in hopes that he doesn't leave me hanging*

Mr. Daulby,
Last time I checked,

was a fictional character.

By the Eye of Agamoto!

Yeah really!! You know what Freud would have had to say about that!





I didn't quote your entire post, but I just wanted to salute you! Excellent!

Oh, my. I just looked at Mr. Daulby's screaming cheesebag infomercial website, and I'm not sure whether to laugh at stuff like "a one time payment of £1000 is a pittance" for his special unique ouija board (though he ONLY charges the "ridiculous low price" of $199!!!!) or to cry that I wasted my time addressing him as if he were a serious person instead of a cartoon carnival barker.

Seriously, you have to click on that if you want to see a real caricature of a sales pitch. You will wonder if it's a joke, or I will TRIPLE YOUR MONEY BACK! THAT'S RIGHT!!!! I SAID TRIPLE!!!!!!!

GOOD GRIEF!! I had assumed he was some sort of cult leader wannabe looking for recruits, just going on the vibes his user pic gives off. That website is not only cheesy, it is so fraught with terrible grammar it is difficult to even read. I hope no one here on UM got taken in by that sales pitch!

You know what I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it costs $199 to download a PDF file with the design of the board which you then print it out to use? Sorry but that is 'almost' on the lines of the guy who was selling a ghost in a Jar on ebay. If it is not a pisstake then apologies, But if i bought any sort of art piece/design for $199 I would expect that I didn't have to download it and print it out myself...I would expect to have the craft posted and packaged to me in its 'physical' state......

I also point blankly disagree with the notion put foward on the sales pitch page that those who practise and believe in the importance of shielding/protecting and portals/vortexs are fakes. That is just ridiculous! and rather offensive really, but I am currently in that debate over on the ouji board thread with him so won't start it here...All Makes sense now.... the 'forget your psychics, ritual,beliefs you don't need them, they are fake' - nothing but sales techiques......

Oh good grief I just clicked on this guy's infomercial site. Truly horrible. What a weirdo.

I'll have a lookie at his site...

Heres the true Daulby.

Wahahahhaaa! Yeah, that pic is more like it. He's spamming in a more subtle way IMO.

You know, I had been thinking the exact same thing, to the point where I almost wrote earlier that he sounds like every bogus Bhagwan that ever strung barbed wire around his holy compound. Then I find out it's not a cult at all, just some snake oil? I didn't even buy it, and yet I feel gypped somehow.

Anvil, I didn't realize you had to print it out yourself. I thought he was sending you all this mountain of gibberish, and I was thinking, how do you move all that paper and ink and clear much profit for $199 a shot? My gosh, you don't. You sell PDF files. Oh, hilarity.

Deadrobot, I printed that picture out and hung it on my wall, and now I worship it.

Oh great I have my own Cult website and this guy gets a little photoshopped and you worship HIM??? Sheesh....

Guy's a fruit and a nut all rolled into one chocolate bar short of a golden ticket.

Paint Shop Pro X I'll have you know but yeh.

Sorry, my mistake!

Please forgive! It was hilarious!

I'll let you off this once (kidding)