i just watched godzilla today and i was wondering if its actaully possible that a new species can be created by fall out?
is it possible for radiation to alter an animals DNA so much that a new species will arise or is it all just bs?
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i already tried this on a site called bigfoot fourms none of them think its possible so your kind of late on this does that make sence? 
Which godzilla is it you talking about, Gojira? Or G.I.N.O?
I dout radiation would alter dna, it would probably kill the animal before it could (that's even if it can)... although scientists would might probably be able to make a creature LIKE godzilla, but without the big blastey thing... you know, on animal planet, soon their is a thing on dragons.. also, did you hear about the mice that are going to be born with human brains?
To make godzilla:
take one part lizard that walks on two legs and one part komodo. Make komodo that walks on two legs... this is you sellable cute mini godzilla pet...
take the above and mix with genes of a ble whale so it can have gills and get big... now it is a marine animal (like godzilla) and is big... mix with human brain to make it smart (like godzilla) make a smaller version to make godzookie (anyone else know of godzookie? stupid cartoons.)
To make godzilla:
take one part lizard that walks on two legs and one part komodo. Make komodo that walks on two legs... this is you sellable cute mini godzilla pet...
take the above and mix with genes of a ble whale so it can have gills and get big... now it is a marine animal (like godzilla) and is big... mix with human brain to make it smart (like godzilla) make a smaller version to make godzookie (anyone else know of godzookie? stupid cartoons.)
I would agree, the animal would die before the radiation can change the DNA. I'm pretty sure it doesnt either, but it may cause deformities. I remember reading somewhere that rabbits are the most likely to survive under radiation and even then, they dont have that long of a time.
QUOTE(zudo @ Mar 9 2005, 04:01 PM)
take the above and mix with genes of a ble whale so it can have gills and get big.
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Whales don't have gills...
Like most have said, radiation can kill. But in heavy amounts only can radiation kill (and with heavy amounts will it certainly kill in the matter of seconds). But some animals (and humans) have been known for their strange mutations. How? Usually powerplants are government experiments. But if just effected and when I say just I mean very lightly touched by radiation, you can be affected. Now, their sperm/eggs are radiately effected. When they have a child, their child can be mutated and most likely will. So yes, if only in light amouns can radiation effect the DNA. In heavy amounts, it will quickly kill you.
QUOTE(zudo @ Mar 9 2005, 05:01 PM)
take the above and mix with genes of a ble whale so it can have gills and get big...
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WHALES ARE MAMMALS, THEY BREATH THROUGH LUNGS Anyways, I think it's impossible unless the goverment tries to make it, but why would they?
Could you imagein if Godzilla did rise from the sea. Japan would be in a state of terrier knowing everything put in the movies is now on the "It could happen" list. Althought the thought of Godzilla actually existing is a fun thought. I mean could we actually live in peace with the Big-G in this real wotld of ours?
lol As long as scientists has their way and big-G is kept under lock, key and close surveillance..if he cant be contained...well, then: 
(Isnt that always our way? lol)
- Dark
(Isnt that always our way? lol)- Dark
I highly doubt it is possible, but I must say anything is possible. So you never know.
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QUOTE(zudo @ Mar 9 2005, 05:01 PM)
take the above and mix with genes of a ble whale so it can have gills and get big...
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WHALES ARE MAMMALS, THEY BREATH THROUGH LUNGS Anyways, I think it's impossible unless the goverment tries to make it, but why would they?
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Yes, since whales are mammals, whales have lungs, not gills. They must come to the ocean surface to breathe through nostrils known as blowholes. Smaller whales can be underwater for several minutes but I found out that the Sperm Whale can dive for up to two hours.
Are you referring to the government making radiation? If thats what your saying, you misunderstood. Governmental experiments may involve radiation. (Bombs on testing sites may involve radiation). Understand?
QUOTE(zudo @ Mar 9 2005, 05:01 PM)
I dout radiation would alter dna, it would probably kill the animal before it could (that's even if it can)... although scientists would might probably be able to make a creature LIKE godzilla, but without the big blastey thing... you know, on animal planet, soon their is a thing on dragons.. also, did you hear about the mice that are going to be born with human brains?
To make godzilla:
take one part lizard that walks on two legs and one part komodo. Make komodo that walks on two legs... this is you sellable cute mini godzilla pet...
take the above and mix with genes of a ble whale so it can have gills and get big... now it is a marine animal (like godzilla) and is big... mix with human brain to make it smart (like godzilla) make a smaller version to make godzookie (anyone else know of godzookie? stupid cartoons.)
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To make godzilla:
take one part lizard that walks on two legs and one part komodo. Make komodo that walks on two legs... this is you sellable cute mini godzilla pet...
take the above and mix with genes of a ble whale so it can have gills and get big... now it is a marine animal (like godzilla) and is big... mix with human brain to make it smart (like godzilla) make a smaller version to make godzookie (anyone else know of godzookie? stupid cartoons.)
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Okay, first of all, your term of 'sellable', would be true, because it would probably still have the saliva of a komodo dragon, which would be able to kill, in minutes, if it bit you. Also there is no Reptile that walks on 2 legs all the time, they are all qaudrapedial, while some have the ability to walk on 2 legs for short periods of time, and I seriously doubt they will allow scientists to mix human genes with that of an animal. Many people consider it inhumane, to even clone embryos.
Next of all, we don't have the ability to splice together genes at such high levels, especially with such complex DNA.
And technically speaking, if you wanted to splice the American 'Godzilla' just take a marine iguana, give it Jay Lenos chin, a brain the size of a peanut, and enjoy.
Yes, all reptiles are quadrapedial. You may find the moments of reptiles running on two feet (such as my iguana iggy). When my iguana sees a dog nearby outside when hes strolling through the garden, he picks up his front lefs and runs with his tail strolling on the floor. It was an awesome sight, but a scary sight. Also agree on the fact of the complication involving DNA and gene splicing - to take a gene of one animal along with another would be challenging enough to make sure the dominant and recessive alleles and the chromosomes could match up, line up, and replicate.
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QUOTE(zudo @ Mar 9 2005, 05:01 PM)
take the above and mix with genes of a ble whale so it can have gills and get big...
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WHALES ARE MAMMALS, THEY BREATH THROUGH LUNGS Anyways, I think it's impossible unless the goverment tries to make it, but why would they?
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Yes, since whales are mammals, whales have lungs, not gills. They must come to the ocean surface to breathe through nostrils known as blowholes. Smaller whales can be underwater for several minutes but I found out that the Sperm Whale can dive for up to two hours.
Are you referring to the government making radiation? If thats what your saying, you misunderstood. Governmental experiments may involve radiation. (Bombs on testing sites may involve radiation). Understand?
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No, I ment like a goverment experament using crossbreeding or genetic crap like that
No,Godzilla isn't possible.This thread is seriously retarded,i hope it gets closed.
Damn right CR.
People who say 'Godzilla is real' bring down the whole tone of the feild of cryptozoology, and are responsable for it receiveing a lack of respect (amongst other things) from other feilds.
Run a google search and I'm sure you'll find many topics related to godzilla sightings.
Until then... (shakes fist)
People who say 'Godzilla is real' bring down the whole tone of the feild of cryptozoology, and are responsable for it receiveing a lack of respect (amongst other things) from other feilds.
Run a google search and I'm sure you'll find many topics related to godzilla sightings.
Until then... (shakes fist)
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 10 2005, 03:24 AM)
Damn right CR.
People who say 'Godzilla is real' bring down the whole tone of the feild of cryptozoology, and are responsable for it receiveing a lack of respect (amongst other things) from other feilds.
Run a google search and I'm sure you'll find many topics related to godzilla sightings.
Until then... (shakes fist)
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People who say 'Godzilla is real' bring down the whole tone of the feild of cryptozoology, and are responsable for it receiveing a lack of respect (amongst other things) from other feilds.
Run a google search and I'm sure you'll find many topics related to godzilla sightings.
Until then... (shakes fist)
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First off, they NEVER said Godzilla was real. They asked if there was a possibility of creating a similar creature using today's splicing capability.
I think it's an interesting topic.
What makes this any diffrent then any other of the topics that feature creatures whose only existing proff is second hand stories.
This is also no diffrent then asking is dinosaurs are still alive today.
Take away the radioactiive breath, and what do you have?
A dinosaur.
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QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 10 2005, 03:24 AM)
Damn right CR.
People who say 'Godzilla is real' bring down the whole tone of the feild of cryptozoology, and are responsable for it receiveing a lack of respect (amongst other things) from other feilds.
Run a google search and I'm sure you'll find many topics related to godzilla sightings.
Until then... (shakes fist)
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People who say 'Godzilla is real' bring down the whole tone of the feild of cryptozoology, and are responsable for it receiveing a lack of respect (amongst other things) from other feilds.
Run a google search and I'm sure you'll find many topics related to godzilla sightings.
Until then... (shakes fist)
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First off, they NEVER said Godzilla was real. They asked if there was a possibility of creating a similar creature using today's splicing capability.
I think it's an interesting topic.
What makes this any diffrent then any other of the topics that feature creatures whose only existing proff is second hand stories.
This is also no diffrent then asking is dinosaurs are still alive today.
Take away the radioactiive breath, and what do you have?
A dinosaur.
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No if you take away the radioactive breath you have an 100ft dino... I think the radiation woulkd kill rather than mutate it into a monster and this is very different to crypto topics.
It depends on the amount of radiation you're referring to.
It's a proven fact that some amounts of radiation can produce mutated offspring.
Who's to say that the some of the mysterious cryptids we discuss here aren't just that? Mutations of known species.
It's a proven fact that some amounts of radiation can produce mutated offspring.
Who's to say that the some of the mysterious cryptids we discuss here aren't just that? Mutations of known species.
QUOTE(ALNA70 @ Mar 10 2005, 10:31 AM)
It depends on the amount of radiation you're referring to.
It's a proven fact that some amounts of radiation can produce mutated offspring.
Who's to say that the some of the mysterious cryptids we discuss here aren't just that? Mutations of known species.
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It's a proven fact that some amounts of radiation can produce mutated offspring.
Who's to say that the some of the mysterious cryptids we discuss here aren't just that? Mutations of known species.
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problems iz, mutants will most likley be sterile
and possibly have reduced life spans as well
I don't believe medical science is capable of altering DNA to this extend at present. However since mutations are mostly attributed to radiation (mostly from the sun), its a fair question to wonder as to how freakish a mutation could manifest on an existing DNA pattern. 
I agree with ALNA70 that some of you seem a bit hostile though.
I think both of you CR and Walken need to read the post (not only the title) before making any comments like that. I share your frustration with post like the "kinesis" threads but this one is not in that category.
I agree with ALNA70 that some of you seem a bit hostile though.
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i just watched godzilla today and i was wondering if its actaully possible that a new species can be created by fall out?
is it possible for radiation to alter an animals DNA so much that a new species will arise or is it all just bs?
is it possible for radiation to alter an animals DNA so much that a new species will arise or is it all just bs?
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No,Godzilla isn't possible.This thread is seriously retarded,i hope it gets closed.
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Damn right CR.
People who say 'Godzilla is real' bring down the whole tone of the field of cryptozoology, and are responsable for it receiveing a lack of respect (amongst other things) from other feilds.
Run a google search and I'm sure you'll find many topics related to godzilla sightings.
Until then... (shakes fist)
People who say 'Godzilla is real' bring down the whole tone of the field of cryptozoology, and are responsable for it receiveing a lack of respect (amongst other things) from other feilds.
Run a google search and I'm sure you'll find many topics related to godzilla sightings.
Until then... (shakes fist)
I think both of you CR and Walken need to read the post (not only the title) before making any comments like that. I share your frustration with post like the "kinesis" threads but this one is not in that category.
QUOTE(sultanmuratova @ Mar 9 2005, 11:14 PM)
i just watched godzilla today and i was wondering if its actaully possible that a new species can be created by fall out?
is it possible for radiation to alter an animals DNA so much that a new species will arise or is it all just bs?
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is it possible for radiation to alter an animals DNA so much that a new species will arise or is it all just bs?
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I also saw it yesterday on Veronica.
About that radiation bit I have my doubts..
Some people atually say they saw godzila? How dumb.
personally, there is a posibility, but u have to get to the fact of wot i mentioned b4 (reduced life spans,sterile, genetic defects etc)
Uh-huh. Try googleing it. One person graphically describes a green scaley leg comeing from the clouds and walking out to sea.
Funny how there were no foot prints or anything, hmmm?
Btw, look out for that. It seems like a HUGE footprint is gonna be the next major hoax.
Funny how there were no foot prints or anything, hmmm?
Btw, look out for that. It seems like a HUGE footprint is gonna be the next major hoax.
Whenever I need a good laugh i'll just google godzilla sightings
Or if you've got hiccups.
Some peoples intelligence just scares me.
Some peoples intelligence just scares me.
Have you seen the old godzilla movies? They are funny cause they are so corny. "Godzilla towering over 2 feet tall" 
Also it was actually a tie between Godzilla and King Kong, Godzilla came from the sea. The writers couldn't decide who would win.
About those godzilla sightings, how can anyone think that? Wouldn't it destroy a city?
Also it was actually a tie between Godzilla and King Kong, Godzilla came from the sea. The writers couldn't decide who would win. About those godzilla sightings, how can anyone think that? Wouldn't it destroy a city?
I don't know about the goverment doing that or atleast I wouldn't think so. More like scientists labs and experimental labs/animal experimentation labs would fit the description of genetically mutating/gene splicing with animals.
How big exactly was godzilla? All we could see was his leg in most occasions.
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Mar 10 2005, 10:34 AM)
I don't believe medical science is capable of altering DNA to this extend at present. However since mutations are mostly attributed to radiation (mostly from the sun), its a fair question to wonder as to how freakish a mutation could manifest on an existing DNA pattern.
I agree with ALNA70 that some of you seem a bit hostile though.
I think both of you CR and Walken need to read the post (not only the title) before making any comments like that. I share your frustration with post like the "kinesis" threads but this one is not in that category.
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I agree with ALNA70 that some of you seem a bit hostile though.
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i just watched godzilla today and i was wondering if its actaully possible that a new species can be created by fall out?
is it possible for radiation to alter an animals DNA so much that a new species will arise or is it all just bs?
is it possible for radiation to alter an animals DNA so much that a new species will arise or is it all just bs?
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No,Godzilla isn't possible.This thread is seriously retarded,i hope it gets closed.
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Damn right CR.
People who say 'Godzilla is real' bring down the whole tone of the field of cryptozoology, and are responsable for it receiveing a lack of respect (amongst other things) from other feilds.
Run a google search and I'm sure you'll find many topics related to godzilla sightings.
Until then... (shakes fist)
People who say 'Godzilla is real' bring down the whole tone of the field of cryptozoology, and are responsable for it receiveing a lack of respect (amongst other things) from other feilds.
Run a google search and I'm sure you'll find many topics related to godzilla sightings.
Until then... (shakes fist)
I think both of you CR and Walken need to read the post (not only the title) before making any comments like that. I share your frustration with post like the "kinesis" threads but this one is not in that category.
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Couldn't agree more...
QUOTE(Walken @ Mar 10 2005, 04:15 PM)
How big exactly was godzilla? All we could see was his leg in most occasions.
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Godzilla held a *fictional* height of probably 200 feet high. Lol, I wouldn't know - its a movie.
lol, he shoud've been bigger.
Did anyone ever think that the fictional God-zilla was actually a fictional god?
Did anyone ever think that the fictional God-zilla was actually a fictional god?
Not at all. Hes a freak of nature and should of never been created, atleast said in movies.
What did create him? Fictionally, of course.
I don't think they ever mentioned how in oldschool and the recent movies. But he was probably accidentally made -
QUOTE(MJB222 @ Mar 10 2005, 09:54 AM)
Some people atually say they saw godzila? How dumb.
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Many people that don't believe in Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, ect., say the same thing about people that say they saw the creatures I just mentioned.
Just a little food for thought.
Also, to answer Walken's question, he was created by atomic fallout.
thanks everyone for your replies and i agree that although mutation might be possible but not to the extreme of godzilla.
and of for the critics i only asked if it was possible not that i believe that a godzilla really exists. it was just a question, isnt that the whole idea of this forum? to be able to ask questions and discuss topics. it doesnt matter far fetched they might be.
and of for the critics i only asked if it was possible not that i believe that a godzilla really exists. it was just a question, isnt that the whole idea of this forum? to be able to ask questions and discuss topics. it doesnt matter far fetched they might be.
Thats weird. I guess it is. At least it's not another damn complaints thread.
QUOTE(sultanmuratova @ Mar 11 2005, 10:13 AM)
thanks everyone for your replies and i agree that although mutation might be possible but not to the extreme of godzilla.
and of for the critics i only asked if it was possible not that i believe that a godzilla really exists. it was just a question, isnt that the whole idea of this forum? to be able to ask questions and discuss topics. it doesnt matter far fetched they might be.
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and of for the critics i only asked if it was possible not that i believe that a godzilla really exists. it was just a question, isnt that the whole idea of this forum? to be able to ask questions and discuss topics. it doesnt matter far fetched they might be.
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No probelm and your right, the whole idea of this forum is to discuss facts and opinions, hoax or not.
Uh-huh.
The most discussed pic ever is probably stills from the patterson footage, which is a proven hoax.
Although some people still don't beleive that.
The most discussed pic ever is probably stills from the patterson footage, which is a proven hoax.
Although some people still don't beleive that.
I don't believe that. It wasn't proved hoax...
It was pratically proven then.
People have come fowards with evidence that they were wearing the suit, it's been proven that patterson was a con-artist, ect.
People have come fowards with evidence that they were wearing the suit, it's been proven that patterson was a con-artist, ect.
Well, that shut me up. 
Lol, we all learn new things.
People say they saw Godzilla? Sorry, but seriously. A big leg coming down from the clouds? I think more than a few people would havew noticed that. I belive mutations can happen, but to that extreme, no. The poor thing that experiances it would die. In my opinion.
No, its something that will never occur in the most bizarre events of life - it is literally impossible.
Agreed. Godzilla is just one of those things that CAN'T HAPPEN, unless some miracle occurs.
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