thats wicked, antartica free of ice o.O one thing i dont get tho.. is why is there ice now? 
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"Just like the frozen mammoths that were found in Siberia, standing with flowers in their mouth. "
Actually only one mammoth has ever been found with flowers in its mouth. They were buttercups right ?
The mammoth was as you say found standing upright and this fact swept the world like a flame adding irrefutable evidence that Charles hapgoods Crust displacement theory was correct.
And then on further exploration they discovered that the mammoth had died in a crevasse. witha  broken leg suffocated by snow.
Seems thats why it was standing up and didn't get a chance to spit out the buttercups.
This erroneous mammoth story keeps cropping up as evidence for one crazy theory or another. Really you should let it die with its originator.
The Piri reis map has long been the holy grail for many crazy theories as well
The only pertinent points are
1. World maps did exist at the time (400ad). They were made by ptolemy
2. It does apparently (important word) show the ice free antarctic continent.
3. The antarctic continent resembles the coast line of south america a lot better but is aligned the wrong way
4. It was normal practice in the 15 century to use up the blank spaces on maps with more detailed close ups the same way that its done today.
5. Admiral Piri Reis ended his days with his head in a basket no longer attached to his body.
6. Admiral Reis never sailed to antacrtica at all.
7. The areas depicted on the map show the antarctic areas that were ice free circa 10.400bce

So you either have a map that is of the known world at the time of piri reis with south america misaligned
or a map of antartica in 10,400bce
occhams razor anyone ?
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may i refer you to my first point again
1. World maps did exist at the time (400ad). They were made by ptolemy
Ptolemy in case you didn't know lived in alexandria.
He was a famous geographer who made maps from older maps.
Only his maps survived the destruction of alexandria in the first century.
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"i dont think ptolemy made all the maps "
He was the only geographer ever associated with alexandria. There are many of his maps in museums around the world. He is extremely well known
They are called ptolemaic portolans
Luckily just cos you think it doesn't make it true huh ?
There are other maps from other areas just as detailed from just as early a period
But none of them originated in alexandria.
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went to Barnes & Noble the other day and bought 20 books in regards to Science, Religion and other Worldly Mysterious. It seems that the more we research the mysteries of our planet, the more we discover an intelligence that’s beyond anything we know. In 1953, a Turkish naval officer sent the Piri Reis Map to be studied by the U.S. Navy Hydrographic Bureau, which solicited the help of Arlington H. Mallery, an authority on ancient maps. After a considerable study, Mallery found that the only way for the Piri Reis Map to be so accurate was through aerial surveying. Now my question being is, who had the capacity to do an aerial surveillance 4,000 years ago? From my studies on this I’ve found the Map could possibly be 6,000 to 12,000 years old.

In 1929, a group of historians found an amazing map drawn on a gazelle skin.
Research showed that it was a genuine document drawn in 1513 by Piri Reis, a famous admiral of the Turkish fleet in the sixteenth century. His passion was cartography. His high rank within the Turkish navy allowed him to have a privileged access to the Imperial Library of Constantinople. The Turkish admiral admits in a series of notes on the map that he compiled and copied the data from a large number of source maps, some of which dated back to the fourth century BC or earlier.

The Controversy:
The Piri Reis map shows the western coast of Africa, the eastern coast of South America, and the northern coast of Antarctica. The northern coastline of Antarctica is perfectly detailed. The most puzzling however is not so much how Piri Reis managed to draw such an accurate map of the Antarctic region 300 years before it was discovered, but that the map shows the coastline under the ice. Geological evidence confirms that the latest date Queen Maud Land could have been charted in an ice-free state is 4000 BC.

The map follows in the tradition of portolan charts, mariners’ sea charts of the Black, Aegean, and Mediterranean Seas and the Atlantic coasts of Europe. Portolan charts are based upon dead reckoning and the magnetic compass. Beginning at the end of the fifteenth century, in response to European geographical expansion, portolan-style maps were expanded beyond the traditional European regions to include depictions of the entire world.

Like other portolan charts of the time, the Piri Reis Map exhibits a network of rhumb lines radiating from a circular pattern of wind roses or compass roses, five of which can be seen on the extant fragment. The rhumb lines indicate various winds and compass directions. Most of the graphical symbols, colors, and illustrations — such as the depiction of people and animals — are typical of portolan charts, as is the lack of latitude or longitude markings. Typical of world maps of the period, the recently discovered New World is shown at a larger scale than the Old World, effectively displacing many American coastal features farther north and south.

The map includes 117 place-names. Most are typical of portolan charts and easily identifiable, particularly those found in Europe, Africa, South America, and the Atlantic islands (both real and imaginary). The map also includes thirty inscriptions. All but one are in the Ottoman-Turkish language. The exception is in Arabic and identifies the mapmaker as Piri Reis and dates the map to the spring of 1513. Other inscriptions give information about the people, animals, mineral wealth, and curiosities of the New World.

One of the inscriptions identifies the sources used by Piri Reis: eight maps of Ptolemy, four contemporary Portuguese maps, an Arabic map of southern Asia, and a map by Columbus for parts of the New World. The depictions of lands south of the Atlantic Ocean, based upon the Ptolemaic and Portuguese maps, and the New World, based upon a Columbus map, have elicited the most interest.

Charles Hapgood and others have argued that Piri’s illustration of a southern continent suggests ancient knowledge of Antarctica. But depictions of an imagined southern land were common on maps going back to the time of Ptolemy. Other sixteenth-century maps show a southern continent connecting to South America, as Piri’s does.

Some have supposed the land shown to the south of the Atlantic Ocean to be a depiction of Antarctica, predating the continent’s discovery in the 1820s by three hundred years. This representation of prehistoric Antarctica is supposed to have been copied from ancient maps made tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands, of years ago. Of the several writers who have made this claim, the best known is Charles Hapgood, author of Maps of the Ancient Sea-Kings (1966). But there appears to be little basis for such assertions, beyond the fact that the Piri Reis Map illustrates a land located south of the Atlantic Ocean, and Antarctica also is located south of the Atlantic Ocean. Piri was not the first or the last to show this southern continent, but because of Hapgood’s book his map has become famous for its supposed depiction of prehistoric Antarctica.

Hapgood assumed that the original source maps, resulting from an ancient survey of Antarctica, were accurate. He also assumed that the differences between the depictions on the Piri Reis Map and the depictions on these accurate (but unknown) source maps were the result of copying errors made during the compilation of the Piri Reis Map. With these two basic assumptions it was an easy matter for Hapgood to move landmasses, adjust scales, alter orientations, rearrange landforms, redraw coastlines, twist the geographical depictions, and “correct errors” on the Piri Reis Map to match his hypothetical source maps.

Additionally, to identify features on the Piri Reis Map with features on a modern map, Hapgood ignored the place-names inscribed upon the map — inscriptions that not only tell us what Piri Reis himself said the features were, but also match the place-names of many other maps from the early sixteenth century to the present. Of course, it is not too difficult to make a coastline on an old map look like another coastline on a modern map if one is allowed to change it.

In the 1960s several popular writers, including Erich von Däniken, adopted Hapgood’s conclusion that the Piri Reis Map depicts an ice-free Antarctica, and repeated it as proven. To explain this “fact” the writers asserted that the survey of Antarctica must have been made by extraterrestrials (or, alternatively, people from Atlantis) who left accurate maps later copied into the Piri Reis Map. However, the depiction of the southern land on the Piri Reis Map does not even look like the coast of Antarctica — with or without its mantle of ice — as these writers claimed. There is little or no resemblance between Piri’s southern land and Antarctica, other than the fact that both lie south of the Atlantic Ocean and have a generally east-west coastline — hardly a coincidence so amazing that Atlanteans or ancient astronauts must have charted the landform.

Piri’s inscriptions on his southern land indicate that his depiction was a combination of the commonly held belief in a southern continent, accepted by geographers since the time of the ancient Greeks — a southern continent had to exist in order to balance the globe with the other landmasses in the Northern Hemisphere — and reports from Portuguese voyaging along the east coast of South America. In this, the Piri Reis Map is typical of most other world maps of the sixteenth century, which depict a southern continent with inscriptions describing South America, and there are other sixteenth-century maps that show a southern continent as connected to South America.

The shape and orientation of Hispaniola on the Piri Reis Map is strikingly similar to the depiction of the island of Cipango on maps of the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries. Cipango was Marco Polo’s name for the islands of Japan, and it was one of the goals sought by Columbus on his first voyage. Columbus and his contemporaries believed that Cipango was rectangular, with its main axis oriented north to south. Many maps of the early sixteenth century show Cipango with this shape and orientation. When Columbus discovered the island of Hispaniola during his first voyage, he thought he had found Cipango. Several other early-sixteenth-century maps also assert that Hispaniola was Cipango, and the island of Hispaniola on the Piri Reis Map is shown with Cipango’s traditional north-south orientation.

The island of Cuba is depicted as part of the mainland on the Piri Reis Map, in accordance with the opinion of Columbus, who believed that Cuba was a great cape of Asia. Piri’s place-names on this mainland and on the islands offshore all result from Columbus’s second voyage and clearly identify the land as Cuba. The prominent cape pointing toward Hispaniola undoubtedly represents present-day Cabo Maisi at Cuba’s eastern end. The region at the north of the cape illustrates the coast on the north side of Cuba, explored by Columbus on his first voyage. The region to the south is the south coast of Cuba, which he explored on his second voyage.

Columbus described the north coast of Cuba as extending northward. He described the south coast of Cuba as extending first westward, from a great cape, and then southward. The Piri Reis Map follows these descriptions, illustrating Cuba as a mainland with a coastline that tends north and south. Columbus’s contemporaries — Paolo Toscanelli, Henricus Martellus, Francesco Rosselli, and Martin Behaim — depicted the same view of the Asian mainland on their maps, made between 1474 and 1492.

The Piri Reis Map exhibits many features in common with other surviving portolan charts and portolan-style maps of the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries and fits well into the evolution of mapmaking from the late Middle Ages to the early Renaissance. Many features of the map show close affinities to contemporary Portuguese maps, especially the delineations of the west coast of Africa and the east coast of South America. A Portuguese map — similar to those made by Lopo Homem, Pedro Reinel, and Jorge Reinel, around 1519, and those used by Juan Vespucci (nephew of Amerigo) in 1523 — was also the apparent source for the land connection of South America with the southern continent. All of these features confirm Piri’s own statements that he used Portuguese maps as sources for making his world map.

Though some features on the Piri Reis Map might first appear unusual — such as the connection of the southern continent to South America, the orientation of Hispaniola, and the depiction of Cuba as continental — these and other features are not unexpected on a map of the early sixteenth century.

The most significant aspect of the map is its connection to Christopher Columbus. Many of the map’s unique features support statements by Piri that he copied a map by Columbus. What appears to be a confused jumble in the northwest section of the map conforms to Columbus’s geographical ideas. Hispaniola lies in the same orientation as Cipango. The place-names and depictions in the West Indies also indicate a strong connection to Columbus.

The Piri Reis Map displays the earliest, most primitive, and most rudimentary cartography of these islands, a primitiveness that indicates that the earliest of all cartographic records of the discoveries in the New World — a map made by Columbus, or made under his supervision, around 1495 or 1496 — is preserved in the Piri Reis Map.