Just flipping through my Bible Dictionary when I came upon this:
Wild Ox- It is now generally agreed that the animal called in Hebrew Re>em (Akkadian Reem) is the Bos Primigenius, a species of wild cattle that was once common in the Near East, but is now extinct; it was closely related to the Bos urus, the wild cattle of pre-Christian Europe. The wild ox was known for its prodigious strength and its ferocious and intractable nature. The reference to the slaughtering of Yahweh's enemies like wild oxen in Isahaih 34:7 is no proof that they were ever actually used as sacrificial victims. The LXX, mistaking Re>em for the rhinoceros, translated the word as [Greek word], which the Old Latin rendered as unicornis; the medieval artists and poets turned this unicornis into the fabulous animal known as the unicorn, having the body of a horse but with a single, long horn on its head.
Hope this clears up some falso acclaims about the unicorn. Trust me, guys. It doesn't exist. It was the rhinoceros; wild ox.
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Thats interesting..
But I dont think anyone actually thought unicorns ever existed..
But I dont think anyone actually thought unicorns ever existed..
Hey, great find! 
QUOTE(JayMan895 @ Mar 13 2005, 08:17 PM)
Thats interesting..
But I dont think anyone actually thought unicorns ever existed..
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But I dont think anyone actually thought unicorns ever existed..
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Thanks. Just trying to clear up some claims with the whole unicorn/vampire/werewolf debate...
I did research on unicrons awhile ago. Goats can be born single-horned, a genetic thingy, i think. Aslo, one man removed the horn buds of a baby bull, surgically sewed them together or some such, and replanted them in the middle of the forehead, creating one single horn.
Because of the location and shape of its horn, it was able to dominate the herd because being gored with a pike is different from being rammed with two horns on the sides. Because it had no reason to fear compition, it grew up gentle, much like the temperment of the fabled unicorn.
Because of the location and shape of its horn, it was able to dominate the herd because being gored with a pike is different from being rammed with two horns on the sides. Because it had no reason to fear compition, it grew up gentle, much like the temperment of the fabled unicorn.
QUOTE(dragonlady_mothman @ Mar 13 2005, 08:19 PM)
I did research on unicrons awhile ago. Goats can be born single-horned, a genetic thingy, i think. Aslo, one man removed the horn buds of a baby bull, surgically sewed them together or some such, and replanted them in the middle of the forehead, creating one single horn.
Because of the location and shape of its horn, it was able to dominate the herd because being gored with a pike is different from being rammed with two horns on the sides. Because it had no reason to fear compition, it grew up gentle, much like the temperment of the fabled unicorn.
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Because of the location and shape of its horn, it was able to dominate the herd because being gored with a pike is different from being rammed with two horns on the sides. Because it had no reason to fear compition, it grew up gentle, much like the temperment of the fabled unicorn.
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Nice insight there, but, out of curiousity, when did the dude to this? Was it like the Dark Ages?
Don't take it the wrong way... I'm just wondering...
I dont think it said. Wasnt the Dark Ages because his name is "Dr. Dove", but that link i sent is about him. Poke around on there, if im not mistaken they also mentioned the one-horned goat.
The unicorn is also a symbol of virginity and is sometimes represented as Virgin Mary.
what if a unicorn was seen, but in reality it was a horse with a tooth growing out of its head such as the norwal.
It probably promptly died.
what, the unicorn bull? No, it lived long enough to become the leader of the herd.
The wild ox (fine, I'll use 'unicorn') was said to be wiped out in the flood, along with the dragons, sprites, etc.
Never thought unicorns were real. Or dragons, werewolves or vampires.
QUOTE(MJB222 @ Mar 13 2005, 08:57 PM)
Never thought unicorns were real. Or dragons, werewolves or vampires.
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Actually vamps and weres are really interesting to study... Hehe get this book called The Science of Vampires by Katherine Ramsland Phd. It's really interesting... Though mature, I will say that.
QUOTE(MJB222 @ Mar 14 2005, 01:57 AM)
Never thought unicorns were real. Or dragons, werewolves or vampires.
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Same here. Wasn't there a thread awhile back about FBI acknowledging that vampires are real?
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QUOTE(MJB222 @ Mar 14 2005, 01:57 AM)
Never thought unicorns were real. Or dragons, werewolves or vampires.
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Same here. Wasn't there a thread awhile back about FBI acknowledging that vampires are real?
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Yes but it was a hoax.
And I'm serious; check out that book. It's really cool, even if you are a skeptic. Be warned though; Chapter 9 is a little mature, but trust me, the book's awesome...
Okay back to unicorn subject.
There is a mistake in that, the wild ox is not extinct, its just been exterpated from the middle east or whatever.
I made a thread about some people who made unicorn like creatures
Link : http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...10&#entry464210
Maybe in the future when we can make horns even on horses, I know there are enough people who would do that just for the fun or to make money.
But to my opinion there don't exist. I first have to see some proof, like fossils.
Link : http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...10&#entry464210
Maybe in the future when we can make horns even on horses, I know there are enough people who would do that just for the fun or to make money.
But to my opinion there don't exist. I first have to see some proof, like fossils.
Unicorns were probably people long ago seeing a mutant goat or whatever. Things like that do happen! Over time, people told the story more and more, and so unicorns are born. As for vamps and werewolves, I'm less skeptic about those. They seem slightly more beliveable...
So in the bible where it say's "their were unicorns in the world then" pertains to what you are talking about? 
As far as I know that was the only referance to them.
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But I dont think anyone actually thought unicorns ever existed..
there are several topics on here with people feverently debating that they DO exist. just when you think something is too far-fetched to be considered seriously, SOMEBODY will turn around and start "cryptozoological" investigations.
here is a short, brief, to-the-point ((( link ))) on the Re'em. its obviously either completely mythical, or so exaggerated as to be considered fantastic:
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Horned creature of Biblical legend that was created on the sixth day. The Re'em were so enormous that only two could survive at one time, or the world coulod not support them. There was always one male and one female: one lived at the eastern end of the world while the other lived the western end. They would not see each other for seventy years, until it was time to mate. When they would meet, they would mate once, and the female would subsequently kill the male with a deadly bite. She would then be pregnant for twelve years, and on the final year of her gestation period, she would not be able to walk. She would receive her nourishment from the vegetation watered by her saliva. After the twelve years, her stomach would burst open, killing her, and twins (one male and one female) would be born. Immediately, they would wander their separate ways: one going to the east and the other to the west, hence restarting the cycle.
During the Flood, the Re'em were invited to Noah's ark, but they were so big that they could not come aboard. Instead, Noah tied them to a rope so that they could swim with the ark during the Flood. In other accounts, they were young and still small during the Flood, so they manage to get on board.
During the Flood, the Re'em were invited to Noah's ark, but they were so big that they could not come aboard. Instead, Noah tied them to a rope so that they could swim with the ark during the Flood. In other accounts, they were young and still small during the Flood, so they manage to get on board.
QUOTE(DaRkSiDe @ Mar 15 2005, 01:20 AM)
There is a mistake in that, the wild ox is not extinct, its just been exterpated from the middle east or whatever.
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Trust me. That little lady went "You are the weakest link, good-bye!" to the wild ox a while back.
Hey guys. Just curious, but am I the only one who picks up the Re'em thing as more then a coincidence? If I'm the only one here who sees this... Then OMG, I need to educate you...
Herding Unicorns at Area 51 ? ! ? ! 
And yes this picture is Photoshopped before ppl start slating it....
And yes this picture is Photoshopped before ppl start slating it....
I strongly believe that the oryxs were the origin for the unicorn. When looked at from the side an oryx can appear to have just one horn like a unicorn. I have seen Arabian Oryxs up close many, many times as I work at the Phoenix Zoo (the oryx is on the old logo below too). They can walk for awhile without you noticing the second horn. Europeans would have seen the oryx a lot on their crusades in the middle ages and probably from a distance most of the time (which would have added to the perception of the one horn). The oryx used to have a huge range and was very populace back then. They could even be seen in eastern Europe sometimes. In 1962, however, the Arbian Oryx was hunted down to 9 individuals. These were all sent to the Phoenix Zoo where gradually a population started growing. The original nine had grown to 150 by 1978. They were released back into the wild and currently are kept under watch still. It's amazing the species didn't die from the inbreeding, but supposedly all the surviving members are from those nine. Here are some pictures of oryxs (not just the Arabian). The first is a regular one with the two horns, the others are the unicorn like appearance.
QUOTE(burch1 @ Mar 15 2005, 09:32 PM)
So in the bible where it say's "their were unicorns in the world then" pertains to what you are talking about?
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Lets keep this discussion real and not bring the Bible into it.
what the hell is a norwal?
it's a type of whale thing with a spike on it's forehead
Another little legend of unicorns says how before the flood when Noah was trying to get the animals on to the boat, the unicorns, satyrs, dragons, etc didn't get on cuz they thought Noah was lying... Oh well look what happened to them
Haha...
Haha...
I don't know the origins, but it is true, that the unicorn-myth was seriolusly strenghtened by some ingenious vikings, who sold serious quantities of narwhal-horns to the unsuspecting Europeans, claiming that they were the magical horns of the unicorns... There is a whole throne made from narwahl-horns somewhere in germany, because the king was fooled 
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