Is there sex in heaven?
Does god have sex? Has it ever?
Do the people who go to heaven have sex?
Do the people who go to hell have sex?

I have asked about angels and their sexual ability before (Sodom and Gomorra) and found no one seems to know for sure; but what about the people who go to heaven with their loved ones - is no one getting it on in heaven? Is there no passion that most normal humans feel and greatly desirer; for many it the most desirable act one can do.

In a heaven that has no sex, what do we humans think of, what do we do there? Is there art, is there music, is there emotion, passion, Love – what hell it would be in a place void of all things human.

If there is no sex in heaven, I find it unbelievable that humans have created a religion that removes one of the most normal and necessary acts of our existence – sex. With out it, we would …

Im afraid it is impossible for me to take this thread seriously .

There's always sex!

You say so little, but it means so much!

No, NO ONE has sex in Heaven. The angels of Enoch fell to HAVE sex and marry, hence their fall. Sex is a mortal thing, hence God saying to these angels 'You have defiled yourselves with the blood of the daughters of man, and have done as the children of man do.' You don't need sex in Heaven.

OK, can you say it again in light that I have never read Enoch - not saying that I won't



??

*shrugs* heaven does not sound like a fun place... or a place I'd like to be.

Ok, they took an oath to fall and marry women. They were Watchers (most from the Irin Qaddism) whose job was to watch humanity and record, day and night (they don't sleep) all their deeds, good and bad. They got a little too close, and decided that the women were beautiful and they too wanted wives - human wives. So, an angel, a minion of satan (the accusing angels, technically it's their job) tempted them with falling through an oath in order for them to marry and create offspring (they also wanted this). This oath was founded on the Creation of the world, and given to them by the Archangel Michael (hence, I'm sure, he had satan kicked out and stopped him from having the power to accuse angels in future, i.e. the war in Heaven). They were also supposed to give knowledge to humans, that was part of their job, but after they fell, and created hybrids and monsters with these women (The Nephillim) they started giving out knowledge which would intentionally or unintentionally destroy humanity. These Nephillim they created were the reason for the flood.

It wasn't entirely their fault. They got set up (i.e. tempted by accusing angels) and took the bait, hence were accused and sentenced. But that's what an accusing angels job IS, hence the reason God says that he cursed (and hates) ignorance more than the sin that is in him to sin (technically Adam). Angels don't have free will, if they were to use it, they are cast out. That would be considered rebellion.

Side question - Ashley, when was Enoch found by modern man?

Enoch was the original Bible, he was the first prophet - the first to write. Even the full account of Moses includes parts of Enoch, especially the abovementioned.

Talk about dumb qustions! Well, I'm not sure if there is but I'll look into it. But I think that all we can account from the bible is that there will be celebrations and rejoicing and there will be no pain or suffering. On the angels coming down to marry thing, they came down and slept with women and when the women had childen they produced humans with extra strengths, thas where the greek and roman gods originated from, seeing these people but they were not gods.

Yes, but when was it discovered? Sorry Erikl, it was a good question I would love to know trhe answer.

Considering that the greek gods were worshiped before contact with the jedaic peoples, I highly doubt this. Nice try though.

According to the book, and the dates of the books written after it which mention it approximately 8000 years ago.

according to one single book that hasn't been proven correct in everything.

If you wish to keep telling every pagan that thier gods are false or something else that has to do with your religion, I suggest you start finding more sources then the bible and enoch's book.

Hey, I didn't tell you your gods are false, I said I know where they orignated from, even liljellybean knows that.

And I'm saying that's as good as telling me they're false.

Not every religion orginated from yours. PLEASE WILL YOU STOP DOING THAT!

I am trying so hard to be patient, to be nice, not to yell. But I'm getting *REALLY* sick and tired of you guys overlaying your religion onto mine.

This is a good way to encite these flames, and you know damned well it does. You can worship god and all his angels all you want, but *STOP* overlaying it onto my faith. I hate it, it annoys me, and I'm getting very very very sick and tired of it.

Believe in your gods then, I am in no way trying to stop you.

No, but you're doing a damned good job trying to "convince me" that you know this strange truth and that they're false. You are so conveniantly missing my point.

That's what I call paranoia....I just now said I am not, nor am I trying to get in the way of your beliefs.

There you go ...

who are you calling a pagan
I'm not a pagan I'm a babylonian pantheist
so there

I believe there'd be no sexual acts in heaven, but then heaven is partially about total fulfillment of oneself, so in a way you can think of the the satisfaction of being a complete person rather than being a half person (in terms of sexuality of man and woman) trying to get it through sex; so it's like continually achieving it, in a non-coporeal sense.

you can all l.. er , read the book of enoch here

In heaven there's no more need for pro-creation.

You know what...the more I hear of your heaven the more I like the idea of hell.

Sex, drugs and Rock n Roll! Party baby, whoo!

Is there no desire for sex in Heaven? If not, how were the angels tempted?

Also, whats the point of them having sexual organs if they aint gonna use em.

Your god sure does like setting people up for failure doesn't he?

I dunno, if there is no sex in heaven....I might just wanna stay on Earth then....Doesn't sound very "fun" in heaven....

Sounds like some valid points to me!
I'll stay on Earth too.

lol Well the purpose of sex is procreation..the continuation of the species, etc..
We're the only other species other than Dolphins that actually have sex fer pleasure rather than just for mating. (Interesting tidbit..)

But then I can see your points..if Heaven is supposed to be a euphoric place, why not add in the most euphoric feeling of all? lol

(Unless our bodies will be more spirit based and 'whole' as sumone said..thus not requiring anything as we'll be complete)

- Dark

Actually, there are quite a lot of species that do

Sex is a more physical thing, but it is also emotional. I think that there is love and closness in heaven, but I don't think that when we go we are in body-like form. I believe we are just energy, our souls. So, with that, I don't believe we can actually have sex, but I think we will be able to feel the same emotional parts with one another

Just one happy planet

- Dark

Um, 8000 years ago puts you somewhere in the stone age. I think you may be a wee bit confused there ?

um...no it doesn't. The earliest civilisations probably existed somewhere in the region of 15-20000 years ago.

and don't forget fire... lots of fire... and brimstone... burn baby burn!!

Give the place a bit of air conditioning...better ventilation...it'll be fine

I'd hate to pay that air conditioning bill!!

HA there has to be sex in heaven, or it wouldn't be much fun. but I had a thought, what if heaven was one never ending orgasm?

Well, if nothing else, it'd be great during the winter

Keeping it optimistic Sera... as always!

But I will still take my chances in Heaven

*would be running hell inside a week*

Blackbeard, I have a feeling you're about to reply to me. I'll get back to you when I get home from work Hold that thought.

I would be surprised if you didn't already own a little stock in Hell Sera!

Um ... yes it does. I never said the earliest civilisations didn't exist 15-20000 years ago. Would you like to tell me when the periods generally referred to as the "stone age" were then ?

I'm not an expert on the bible but I don't think we were reading books 8000 years ago.

well if you take away 8000 from today, that puts you in 6000 BC, ancient Sumeria was probably getting started around this time, along with the early Egyptians, and other once nomadic peoples. This would be the Copper Age I believe...I think the last thing I read said that the Stone Age was coming to an end around 10,000 BC (or 12,000 years ago)?

This is just what I think...Not too sure on it all. I'm more of an Iron Age, Medieval, Dark Ages buff anyways. Sorry if this isn't correct Saraph

Yeah, that's a question I was gonna ask, why, if god created everything, did he give us genitals? Why give anything reproductive organs?

Why not... Its a very good question that I myself have wondered for many years...

I have read over and over again that heaven wouldn't be any fun without sex... Is that all you people do is have sex? Wanna switch lives? lol


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Interesting... Wouldn't mind that to much... lol


LBD

Why not?
Why did he give living creatures genitals you ask... What were you born a-sexually? Or do you have a mom and dad that had sex and you were the product of it...
People act like christianity thinks sex is a bad thing... God never said sex was a bad thing... Just because its reserved for a man and woman who are married doen't make it a bad thing...

LBD

Hi all

I have learnt about this before, and I would say that sex does happen in the spirit world, but only while the spirit person adjusts to the new world around them, spirits are said to be able to manifest all of the physical things they enjoyed doing on the earth if they want, just like for instance if someone in life liked a good steak and kidney pie, they can simulate the experience of eating a steak and kidney pie to re live it because that is what they enjoyed, they dont need to eat obviously as they no longer have a physical body to sustain, just as they dont need to have sex, because that is a physical pleasure and a act to continue physical life, but a couple that are in the spiritual realms might want to experience the joy that comes with sex in the heavenly realms, The possibilities are limitless and endless because they are limited to the human imagination so the possibilities are infinite, but sex will become less and less desirable the longer they adjust to there new realties of the spirit realms, as they will wonder further and further away from there earthly mind set. Spirits will lose interests in the physical way of living sooner or later some quicker than others, some might even be addicted to sex or anything physical for that matter
that might even causes them problems with being earth bound, because they are unable to let go of earthly things, so like anything to much of a good thing can be a hindrance.

Its kind of like where someone has a habit, but then changes there circumstances and slowly they learn to stop the habit as they realise theirs no more need for it.

The problem is, so many have a brainwashed idea of heaven, of people floating on clouds, and of angels with harps and halos, the reality to me is its a place of paradise, and has aspects that can be seen on earth, its just that everything is done in the spirit world with the mind, and with the consciousness because that is what the spirit is, so sex simulation will be possible if desired. I’m not saying that heaven is like a huge orgy, because spirits will soon lose interest in earthly joys, as in heaven there are higher joys that anyone on the physical can not imagine, but many spirits will continue to want to experience the things they did on earth, especially with ones they loved, but that seems to be short lived, as interest is soon lost.

Many people have a problem with this idea because they have the brainwashed notion that sex is "godless" and a "sin" forgetting that its one of the most beautiful and amazing things if done sensibly and with those you love, its the very thing that causes the miracle of life, sex can be abused yes, but then so can religion, doesn’t mean that religion is dirty.

All the best
Faeden