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Faeden
Hi Ashley-Star*Child

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I was just pointing that not everyone thinks the same.


I am fully aware that they dont. I never said they do. thumbsup.gif

All the best
Faeden
Neo2005
I hope so
lol
otherwise i'ant goin
Loge
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"Strive to enter by the narrow door; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able. for wide is the door, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be which go in there at."


“When once the householder has risen up and shut the door, you will begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, `Lord, open to us.' He will answer you, `I do not know where you come from.'

“Then you will begin to say, `We ate and drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets.'

“But he will say, `I tell you, I do not know where you come from; depart from me, all you workers of iniquity!'

“There you will weep and gnash your teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God and you yourselves thrust out.”

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“Verily I say unto you, Except you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

“Enter in at the strait door: for wide is the door, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

“Because strait is the door, and narrow is the way, which leads unto life, and few there be that find it.”
Faeden
Hi Loge

I have seen that extremist Christian propaganda picture before, its interesting that it depicts women being burnt or suffering. Just another attempt to slander women as sinful tool of the devil, how sexist and ignorant.

This has nothing to do with sex in heaven, but on the topic of Loge’s delightful picture, that photo reminds me of a documentary I was watching last night, about the serial killer and psycho Ed Gein, he had been brought up by his cruel god fearing Christian fundamentalist mother, who taught that women where sinners and dirty whores, it was because of this belief that Ed killed two women and made clothes and furniture with there body parts and skins, it was also the reason why Ed dug up the bodies of dead women from the local grave yard and cut of there faces and wore them as face masks. Religious extremists are so "holy", its beliefs like you see in loges post that have caused countless amounts of suppression, murder, mental illness and evil, why people wish to embrace hatred ill never know.

You find that in many cases where people become serial killers they have been a victim of some form of religious extremism, just like you see in Loge’s enlightening post.

All the best
Faeden
4dplane
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child)
They have personalities just like you or I have, they just don't have 'free will' i.e. cannot refuse God's commands.


Not possible Ashley – Our personalities are shaped by sex (sex drive, love, companionship) – everything in our earthly existence has some connection with sex. With out a sex drive that has shaped so much of what we are, who knows what our personalities would be. I assure you though; they will not be like us here on earth.

QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child)
No, like I just said, sex is a mortal thing. Everyne that has sex will one day die. Everyone created by sex, will one day die. Sex and death go hand in hand. Heaven is for the immortal, not the mortal.


That don’t cut it for me – “. Everyne that has sex will one day die.” –sex and death are not related. One can easily have sex and not give birth. I would say, “With birth there is death” – not, “with sex there is death”. See the difference? The virgin marry could have simply inseminated herself and become pregnant, but sex would have had nothing to do with it.

QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child)
Does a star die? No, it rises out of it's own ashes. Does a star reproduce through sex? No.


Starts are formed by a shockwave that passes though (into) the interstellar gas which begins a process of compression, which in time will make the interstellar gases become unstable and contract under the influence of their own gravity. After a considerable amount of time, the gas continues to condense and get hotter, and denser and hotter - until boom! A star is born

Sounds sexual to me

QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child)
Yes, it's a Earthly gift...a consolation prize if you will, for the fact that the once immortal Adam and Eve were cast out and became mortal hence created death.



The first thing that happened to Adam and Eve after they ate from the tree of knowledge was they covered themselves – why?

Is a three year old ashamed of its body – no! Society teaches it to be.

QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child)
There is sex in hell, but you wouldn't like it. I guarantee that. It's not, however, sex in the form that it is on Earth.


That massive to me – thanks for answering another one of my original questions, “is there sex in hell?”

What does this say about sex here on earth if Satan does it but God does not? Are we all not supposes to try to be more god like. That means married or not – sex is evil?
QUOTE(Faeden)
Because there are millions through out the world in many religions that do think its sinful, so that is who I was directing it at  if you dont think that, then my words would not have applied to you.

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You find that in many cases where people become serial killers they have been a victim of some form of religious extremism, just like you see in Loge’s enlightening post.


QUOTE(SilverCougar)
That's a very unhealthy way to think about sex... =\

To exclued one because it's been so degrated and torn down to be thought of as "evil" and "sinful" is very very odd... and makes me glad I've no part of anything that would think that...



I give a humble bow to the both of you – the degradation of sex and woman throughout the ages has been taught to us - just like racisms.

QUOTE(Monkyburd)
What about sax in heaven? Can I play my sax?


Are you picking on me! Or did someone else misspell sax – I mean sex laugh.gif



Ashley-Star*Child
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(Ashley-Star*Child)
They have personalities just like you or I have, they just don't have 'free will' i.e. cannot refuse God's commands.



Not possible Ashley – Our personalities are shaped by sex (sex drive, love, companionship) – everything in our earthly existence has some connection with sex. With out a sex drive that has shaped so much of what we are, who knows what our personalities would be. I assure you though; they will not be like us here on earth.


No, it damn well is not, haven't you heard of astrology? Sex has nothing to do with the recesses of personality.

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(Ashley-Star*Child)
No, like I just said, sex is a mortal thing. Everyne that has sex will one day die. Everyone created by sex, will one day die. Sex and death go hand in hand. Heaven is for the immortal, not the mortal.


That don’t cut it for me – “. Everyne that has sex will one day die.” –sex and death are not related. One can easily have sex and not give birth. I would say, “With birth there is death” – not, “with sex there is death”. See the difference? The virgin marry could have simply inseminated herself and become pregnant, but sex would have had nothing to do with it.


Mary aside, every human being on this planet is created by sex. If you disagree with that you need to take a biology lesson. And every single human being on this planet (bar a few like I've said) DIE. Sex and death ARE related.


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(Ashley-Star*Child)
Does a star die? No, it rises out of it's own ashes. Does a star reproduce through sex? No.



Starts are formed by a shockwave that passes though (into) the interstellar gas which begins a process of compression, which in time will make the interstellar gases become unstable and contract under the influence of their own gravity. After a considerable amount of time, the gas continues to condense and get hotter, and denser and hotter - until boom! A star is born

Sounds sexual to me


Nope that's not sex, again, take a biology class so you understand what sex is, please.

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(Ashley-Star*Child)
Yes, it's a Earthly gift...a consolation prize if you will, for the fact that the once immortal Adam and Eve were cast out and became mortal hence created death.




The first thing that happened to Adam and Eve after they ate from the tree of knowledge was they covered themselves – why?

Is a three year old ashamed of its body – no! Society teaches it to be.


Because they knew they were naked, umm duh. How many people do you see walking down the street naked that don't get odd looks?

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(Ashley-Star*Child)
There is sex in hell, but you wouldn't like it. I guarantee that. It's not, however, sex in the form that it is on Earth.


That massive to me – thanks for answering another one of my original questions, “is there sex in hell?”

What does this say about sex here on earth if Satan does it but God does not? Are we all not supposes to try to be more god like. That means married or not – sex is evil?



What makes you think satan is the only accusing angel in hell? Or, even if he IS at all? The punishing angels which show no mercy, nor compassion, and carry horrific weapons of punishment are NOT fallen, they were made by God to be PUNISHING ANGELS. Angels kill, angels turn cities into salt and kill firstborns, and they are not fallen, they are carrying out God's will. An angel is ONLY fallen if they have transgressed that law. These angels aren't having sex, they are handing out punishments of a sexual nature as per the sins of the person at hand. They however, don't physically copulate with them. The ONLY angels to have sex, like I've said are in Enoch. There is no sex in Heaven.
SilverCougar
You borked your quotes =(
Ashley-Star*Child
I just fixed it, pain in the ass it is lol
SilverCougar
The zen has returned to the land!
4dplane
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No, it damn well is not, haven't you heard of astrology? Sex has nothing to do with the recesses of personality.


Really – wow ok – your right, it has nothing to do with it.

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Mary aside, every human being on this planet is created by sex. If you disagree with that you need to take a biology lesson. And every single human being on this planet (bar a few like I've said) DIE. Sex and death ARE related.



sex
1.
a. The property or quality by which organisms are classified as female or male on the basis of their reproductive organs and functions.
b. Either of the two divisions, designated female and male, of this classification.
2. Females or males considered as a group.
3. The condition or character of being female or male; the physiological, functional, and psychological differences that distinguish the female and the male. See Usage Note at gender.
4. The sexual urge or instinct as it manifests itself in behavior.
5. Sexual intercourse.
6. The genitals.

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Where in the definition of sex does it say people are created? It does not; believe what you want but the truth is written above, sex is not the means to the creation of life.

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Nope that's not sex, again, take a biology class so you understand waht sex is, please.

Your right, it is not sex as defined above, but it is the means to the creation of a new star, a new life if you will.

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Because they knew they were naked, umm duh. How many people do you see walking down the street naked that don't get odd looks?


The blessed U.S. has one of the highest rates of rape and domestics abuse in the world. Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Amsterdam have some of the lowest rates.

You see – if all of us were naked from the beginning, then none of us would have a problem with being naked. PEOPLE ARE TAUGHT TO BE ASHAMED! From the beginning of their life – no chance for you or me Ashley, but maybe the untainted children of the world can change what man has destroyed.

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What makes you think satan is the only accusing angel in hell?


Where do say satan is the only accusing angel in hell?
Ashley-Star*Child
You're missing the point. The definantion of sex is irrelevant to the fact that every mortal is created through sex. Sex makes their bodies, God makes their souls. You have no physical body when you die. You still have the FORM of your body, but it is not physical.

Even Jesus says no one marries nor gives in marries in Heaven,. but rather, live like the angels of Heaven. Angels don't have sex, they are technically neither gender - if you want to take physical properties into account - again why the angels of Enoch had to take on a mortal form to reproduce.

Rape is evil, by the definition of the word. If people ran about naked there would be an increase in rape, not a decrease. The angels of Enoch were in part tempted (the actual temptaion brought about by the accusing angel under Satanail to go through with fall aside) BECAUSE women were running about naked. Now, if ones who have no physical sexual organs to speak of were tempted by that, what the hell do you think a human WITH those organs will do?
SilverCougar
Accually... people don't need sex to reproduce anymore...

And people can have sex without reproducing. It's a very enjoyable thing... I really don't understand why it should be considered a sin...
Ashley-Star*Child
It's not a sin, unless it's misued. I'd consider rape misusing it.
SilverCougar
Rape's is a bad thing. Men get this need to be in control.. and well *sighs*

But consensual sex between partners who arn't married shouldn't be considered a sin either. Those who think that sex is only for aprocreation tend to forget that not everyone can... and artificial isemination happens alot.

I do feel sex is a spiritual thing... It can bring two people clower togehter.. if wanted... Sometimes, it's just to release that primitave urge...



(2:50am.. yeah.. complete thoughts is a *good* thing)
teen_freek
well theres no need 4 breeding in heavin, and sex its like seen as evil and your not to use it for plesure!!!!! so ive decided im going to hell lol

natxx
Hoagy
QUOTE(teen_freek @ Mar 18 2005, 08:45 AM)
well theres no need 4 breeding in heavin, and sex its like seen as evil and your not to use it for plesure!!!!! so ive decided im going to hell lol

natxx
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Looks like I will be going too. But then, I don't believe in hell, so what then, oh my, what a conundrum!

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teen_freek
QUOTE(Hoagy @ Mar 18 2005, 03:50 PM)
QUOTE(teen_freek @ Mar 18 2005, 08:45 AM)
well theres no need 4 breeding in heavin, and sex its like seen as evil and your not to use it for plesure!!!!! so ive decided im going to hell lol

natxx
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Looks like I will be going too. But then, I don't believe in hell, so what then, oh my, what a conundrum!

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yeh same here lol
i know people who only believe in god incase they go 2 hell, but whats the point cause when ur dead no1 can harm u
Hoagy
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Mary aside, every human being on this planet is created by sex. If you disagree with that you need to take a biology lesson. And every single human being on this planet (bar a few like I've said) DIE. Sex and death ARE related.


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Everyone is here because of sex, the fusion of nuclei and cells that form and create new life, no exceptions.

star_child
We learn that after that big sorting out thing, you know with Jesus and all, that you feel physical pain, and mental. as well, which I think is worse.

Please excuse my crap knowledge of the Bible.
Ashley-Star*Child
QUOTE(Hoagy @ Mar 18 2005, 02:58 PM)
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(Ashley-Star*Child)

Mary aside, every human being on this planet is created by sex. If you disagree with that you need to take a biology lesson. And every single human being on this planet (bar a few like I've said) DIE. Sex and death ARE related.


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(Hoagy)
Everyone is here because of sex, the fusion of nuclei and cells that form and create new life, no exceptions.
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That's what I just said! And everyone one here 'because of sex' as you put it, dies. That IS mortality.

And please let's not go back to the 'sex is evil'. I've already gone throug that, read through a few pages, it's already beeen discussed. You aren't going to hell because you enjoy sex, it was MEANT to be enjoyable, but also, to be used in the right cirumstances. And, it is a mortal activity, so no, it is not something you will have, nor want, nor need in Heaven.


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We learn that after that big sorting out thing, you know with Jesus and all, that you feel physical pain, and mental. as well, which I think is worse.

Please excuse my crap knowledge of the Bible.


No it's not 'physcial pain', but would be equilavent to it. The soul CAN still feel pain, because the pain being inflicted on it is brought about in the spirit world. They don't however, feel pain inflicted by the physical world.
lotus_spring
Didn't Solomon said 'Be chastised against women?'

Are monk and nuns not chastised?
lotus_spring
'Is there sex in Heaven?'

Which Heaven are you refering to? Do you know how many heavens are there? If someone tell you there are more than a 1000 heavens would you believe?And that in different worlds you have different existence?

Did monks not engage in sex in tantric Buddhism?

I will say this is subjective.
Ashley-Star*Child
That would mean, don't 'go with' to put it nicely every girl you see. Marriage would be a requirement. Control yourself. He had many wives, but that there being the keyword. Wives not girlfriends. But surely, one wife is enough.
Ashley-Star*Child
Yes, there are 'many Heavens'. 10 acually (the 7th being split in 3 to make 10. They are in what is now termed 'space' which also houses the many hells.

And yes, this is Judeo-Christian. All others are 'borrowed' from them.
Bex
I think the action of sex would be different, more spiritual & intellectual ultra refined like the sensation of touch but explosive and electrifing!!! I would like to think when we see the Northern Lights, it is the expression of other beings loving each other.
Ashley-Star*Child
There is no sex in Heaven. There is no reproduction in Heaven, except that by which God produces - like angels being the breath of God (fire), and souls being created by God. This is what Earth is for, mortality. That which reproduces and is reproduced by the mortal body shall die by it. Except a very rare few.
zandore
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child Posted Yesterday @ 11:59 PM )
Yes, there are 'many Heavens'. 10 acually (the 7th being split in 3 to make 10.
Ashley doing it that way you would have only 9 Heavens not 10.
7-1=6
Split the 1 to make 3
3+6=9
101
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Mar 15 2005, 07:18 AM)
*shrugs* heaven does not sound like a fun place... or a place I'd like to be.
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I am a Christian and I look forward to living my life eternally with Christ. In Heaven you not only live in mansions,but have the things you have only dreamed about on a Earth. you sing and praise you God what is better than that. I belive if you read the Bible particularly the book of revelation. you will understand what Heaven will be like. I don't think we will necesserally need sex in Heaven we will be in awe of our creator and all of all past loved ones. and Hell is a place where there is flesh eating magets and eternal burning of flesh it is not a pinic at all. I hope you reconsider thinking about an eternal life in Heaven. 101.
Hoagy
in Heaven you live in mansions? that seems awfully materialistic to me...
Seraphina
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you sing and praise you God what is better than that.


You don't seriously want me to answer that question, do you? tongue.gif
marduk
So let me get this straight
Heaven is :-
No sex/singing gods praises for eternity/Living in mansions

Hell is:-
SEX SEX and more SEX/ adultery/ coveting ox's/Living in maggot infested filth


well thats my mind made up cos I can't hold a note.
And i love coveting my neighbours ox, its such a maginificent beast
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Seraphina
Just for you Marduk tongue.gif

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You know, this is an interesting case study in itself...the fact that some people feel so strongly, one way or another, about sex in heaven, that this thread has managed to continue for nine pages huh.gif
Dark_Grey
QUOTE(marduk @ Mar 22 2005, 11:38 AM)
So let me get this straight
Heaven is :-
No sex/singing gods praises for eternity/Living in mansions

Hell is:-
SEX SEX and more SEX/ adultery/ coveting ox's/Living in maggot infested filth


well thats my mind made up cos I can't hold a note.
And i love coveting my neighbours ox, its such a maginificent beast
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Bah don't ferget the burning of your already burnt flesh hmm.gif

- Dark
marduk
OOOH he's fantastic seraphina, thankyou so very much
But he's not my neighbours ox so i don't really go in for that sort of thing
It would be unfaithful of me
N'est pas ?
Athenian
What is Heaven? Who knows what or where Heaven is? Can't we establish Heaven here on Earth? Why meddle with and wonder if we can reproduce in a place we know nothing of?

People have trouble enough deciding if they should and why to have sex on Earth with the growing populace limit, morality, and whatnot etc... But Heaven...? wacko.gif

You fools come up with some of the most craziest inquiries.

Everyone should stay here and worry about what do on Earth before they make plans concerning Heaven. disgust.gif
marduk
"Bah don't ferget the burning of your already burnt flesh " dark grey

well i did elementary science as a kid at school and even i know things don't burn twice.
Besides i'll take some sunblock just to be on the safe side.

Of course if you want a serious answer out of me i'll just say that I have more than enough personal proof of the existence of reincarnation already so it leaves heaven and hell as a bit of a moot point seeing as i'll be back here shortly after my demise.
I just hope i don't come back as a christian
Shouldn't be a problem though as it hasn't happened thus far.

Still that ox oooohh
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copenhagon_btch
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Mar 15 2005, 01:18 AM)
*shrugs* heaven does not sound like a fun place... or a place I'd like to be.
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yeah i think tat 2... well how about hell.. now if there's sex there...... devil.gif LOL
Hoagy
QUOTE(marduk @ Mar 22 2005, 11:05 AM)
"Bah don't ferget the burning of your already burnt flesh  " dark grey

well i did elementary science as a kid at school and even i know things don't burn twice.
Besides i'll take some sunblock just to be on the safe side.

Of course if you want a serious answer out of me i'll just say that I have more than enough personal proof of the existence of reincarnation already so it leaves heaven and hell as a bit of a moot point seeing as i'll be back here shortly after my demise.
I just hope i don't come back as a christian
Shouldn't be a problem though as it hasn't happened thus far.

Still that ox oooohh
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mmmmmm -ox
mmmmmm - burnt flesh
marduk
Yeah ok you got me,
I only covet my neighbours ox cos I'm planning a barbecue.
I'm interested in making buffalo wings
can anyone point me in the direction of a butcher who supplies winged buffalo
Unorthodox Thesis
Bill: Is there sex in heaven?

Norman: Thats a toughy.

Bill: How can I achieve this?

Norman: You must become an astronaut.

Bill: I am already an astronaut. But what does that have to
do with anything?

Norman: You said you wanted to do it in heaven,
so all you need now is some girl to deflower.

Bill: Thats not what I meant!

Norman: Too bad, you live in a fantasy world while your
concept of heaven does't really exist. Its just religious momb-jumbo!

Bill: You mean heaven being the afterlife?

Norman: Heaven = the sky

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