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At the risk of this turning into a thread about prehistoric history.....

My understanding is this, although I understand that none of these dates are firm. The stone age is divided into periods (early, middle, new) which may be causing some confusion. It seems to be generally agreed the stone into copper age was around 5000 b.c. so yeah it's towards the end of the stone age.

The statement (I thought) I was responding to was that some book was discovered 8000 years ago. That just sounds crazy to me, since the egyptians starting using papyrus around 3000 b.c.

To tell you the truth I'm not even 100% sure what the book of Enoch is, I know next to nothing about the bible or what it purports, hell I don't even know what sort of date God was supposed to have created the earth. I'm just pretty sure prehistoric man didn't have access to any books.

I doubt that there will be sex in paradise. We will not need to have sex in paradise because our desire will not exist.

Luke 20:35-36
"But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; NOR CAN THEY DIE anymore, for they are EQUAL to the angels AND ARE sons of God, being sons of the resurrection."

Assuming that God is in favor of sex after marrage, we will definetally not
have sex in heaven according to the Bible.
That is why God encourages us to have sex here on earth while we have a chance.

Genesis 1:28
"Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."

Just let me play Eagles forever

if there's no sex in heaven... there'll be something much better

I think there won't be any sex in heaven nor in any place after the resurrection, sex and mind/soul perfection are two things that just don't fit together, I think when ppl are advanced enough they won't even think about it, I just don't know what God reserves to us if we're going to live forever..

so heaven is like a constant orgasm while high on heroine and coke?

heaven doesn't exist. get all the sex you can now.

i think there is sex in heaven because god said he would give us all the pleasures of the world

But everyone has there own thinking style!

Heaven = Sky! How many times do I have to say it! The Bible never mentions heaven as our final destination after we die! Paradies is a planet... a much better one thats it!

I always believed heaven would have a feeling that transcends all other earthly needs, and have a beauty and fulfillment beyond all human perceptions, that you would never get tired of...

I think having plain old "sex" in heaven would be actually worse by comparison.

How about we call it the afterlife. ok? I've been over this many times. Heaven = the sky. Now, the afterlife is just like regular life, except you cannot die. In my opinion, you will be able to visit different civilizations, and help them. Most important of them all, you will be with God. So, really the only difference is that you will do what angels do.... have fun in countless ways, and then work by flying and visitng people from all over the universe. Thats what I think. Pretty hard to grasp, but thats what angels do, and the Bible says that we will be equal to the angels.

When I first saw this thread, I thought 'Bizzare - Closed'. How wrong I was? Nice to see mature members promoteing seriouse questions and healthy discussion

AMEN Brother!

I have never read any documentation that claims humans were writing in 6000 BCE.
About the earliest I find is 3500 BCE
http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/hermann.moisl/e...est_writing.htm



How wrong you are LOL – ever heard of the Bonobo! Make love not war!
http://www.blockbonobofoundation.org/
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Do any major religions have sex in their heaven? I thought Islam does but that could be a misunderstanding on my part – anyone know?

I have heard things about radical islam terrorists receiving 70 virgins when they get to heaven, because they martyred themselves...
If they didn't think there was sex in heaven what would be the difference if the women were virgins or not...

LBD

Summerland, or Elyasian Fields... does allow sex. *purrs*

The angels weren't just the first teach writing and reading (this also coincided with Enoch teaching reading and writing) they were the first to teach it with the use of ink and paper. As in Papyrus paper. I've already said that the Egyptians were influenced by these angels and what they taught, and it was Azazel accredited with teaching the art of 'all manner of beautification of the eyelid' and 'black powder for the eyes' hence mascara/eyeliner/eyeshadow, which was the Egyptians trademark.

I know there are those that don't agree with me because they seem to find it an attack on their religion but I'm just stating what's in the texts. Take it as you will.

funny thing about those verses in the koran, is that they were translated wrong you don't get 70 virgins you get 70 dates, the islamic groups still say 70 virgins just to get recruits, so still no sex in heaven.

But anyway how could you have sex in heaven (judiasm, christian, islamic beliefs and maybe others) when you have no body, your only there in spirit, thats what I've been told.

In heaven, no sex.

So... just get it ALL OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM NOW!!

Can I get a "Hoo-Ha!"??

Monkeys do too.

hey. how do u know? u never been there

p.s hoo-ha's are overrated

Hellsteeth you having a laugh aren't you "WE ALL NEED SEX SOME MORE THAN OTHERS" Heaven sounds very dull Thank god i will never make it

Hey Roswell Man,

I doubt if there's humor in Heaven either... so you outta fit in just fine.

yo, jus pullin ur leg. easy bro

Oops... right on. Cheers!

cum 2 think of it, sex is of the flesh, so wont that be another reason that sex is not present in heaven?

OK Just another Religious lie then.

Play nice kids.

Kids?

What's a hoo-ha?

Hi The Roswell Man

My past post explains that, well it does to me anyway.


I have learnt about this before, and I would say that sex does happen in the spirit world, but only while the spirit person adjusts to the new world around them, spirits are said to be able to manifest all of the physical things they enjoyed doing on the earth if they want, just like for instance if someone in life liked a good steak and kidney pie, they can simulate the experience of eating a steak and kidney pie to re live it because that is what they enjoyed, they dont need to eat obviously as they no longer have a physical body to sustain, just as they dont need to have sex, because that is a physical pleasure and a act to continue physical life, but a couple that are in the spiritual realms might want to experience the joy that comes with sex in the heavenly realms, The possibilities are limitless and endless because they are limited to the human imagination so the possibilities are infinite, but sex will become less and less desirable the longer they adjust to there new realties of the spirit realms, as they will wonder further and further away from there earthly mind set. Spirits will lose interests in the physical way of living sooner or later some quicker than others, some might even be addicted to sex or anything physical for that matter
that might even causes them problems with being earth bound, because they are unable to let go of earthly things, so like anything to much of a good thing can be a hindrance.

Its kind of like where someone has a habit, but then changes there circumstances and slowly they learn to stop the habit as they realise theirs no more need for it.

The problem is, so many have a brainwashed idea of heaven, of people floating on clouds, and of angels with harps and halos, the reality to me is its a place of paradise, and has aspects that can be seen on earth, its just that everything is done in the spirit world with the mind, and with the consciousness because that is what the spirit is, so sex simulation will be possible if desired. I’m not saying that heaven is like a huge orgy, because spirits will soon lose interest in earthly joys, as in heaven there are higher joys that anyone on the physical can not imagine, but many spirits will continue to want to experience the things they did on earth, especially with ones they loved, but that seems to be short lived, as interest is soon lost.

Many people have a problem with this idea because they have the brainwashed notion that sex is "godless" and a "sin" forgetting that its one of the most beautiful and amazing things if done sensibly and with those you love, its the very thing that causes the miracle of life, sex can be abused yes, but then so can religion, doesn’t mean that religion is dirty.

All the best
Faeden

No, it's not. That's a man-made rule. God never said you can't enjoy sex, God MADE sex, but you are supposed to be married, then you can do whatever you want. And I follow that rule. I don't believe in pre-marital sex for alot of reasons, and the multitude of diseases out there are just one of them. It's not just on a religious basis, but at the same time, I can understand why that rule was put in in the first place. Like I said before, in the OT, they had many wives, they were more open about sex then than we are today.

However, sex in a physical act, which, in a non-physical world (i.e. in a world where people do not die and reproduce. With sex comes death and mortality) it also makes sense that there is no sex in Heaven. And who said they don't have a sense of humour up there? They have personalities just like you or I have, they just don't have 'free will' i.e. cannot refuse God's commands.

These angels that fell with women also taught sexual 'perversion' including all the different types of sex with are around today. These things are not new, they've been around for the past 8000 years. In fact there is a separate text which goes through again, what Azazel had taught him regarding that subject. However, eve the angels married to do such things, and they each only had one wife. So, that rule must mean something.

In fact it was because of sex that these secrets got out, thereby incriminating themselves. One of the angels asked his wife a request (use your imagination) and she in return she wanted to know what the firmanent of Heaven was. And so on and so forth. ALL the secrets they let out were to - and this is written - impress their wives and to further prove who they were because they had, through this oath, been bound in mortal form. They weren't actually mortal but they were bound to appear in that form. It wasn't just an oath, they bound each other by a curse through an oath so that no one could back out of it. Maybe this is why the idea came about that sex was bad and women were evil.

What about sax in heaven? Can I play my sax?

im sure youve heard all the stuff we Catholics like to spout about sex, but ill give you a quick briefing:
sex is (supposed to be) only between husband and wife. the reason is because sex is actually a very spiritual act - it has the power to join two souls together by God's blessing, marriage, if the two people let it.
so, i cant imagine that folks wouldnt allowed to have sex in heaven, as sex bonds two souls which were already bonded in life by God in marriage.

What if your the asexual type man_in_mudboots would it be O.K.

No, like I just said, sex is a mortal thing. Everyne that has sex will one day die. Everyone created by sex, will one day die. Sex and death go hand in hand. Heaven is for the immortal, not the mortal. That's what being mortal is. There are a few exceptions, but they are the gneral guidelines.

Like I've said before, it is well documented that Heaven is in space, and that angels are referred to as stars (or, more literally, the thrones of the angels. Tha angels are the princes of Heaven, some of which make up God's many armies carrying weapons etc). Does a star die? No, it rises out of it's own ashes. Does a star reproduce through sex? No. The ONLY angels, EVER to have reproduced are these 200 (+3) angels of Enoch. The plus 3 is for the 3 that enlisted everyone else (Azazel, Azza, and Shemyaza) and therefore got the enire blame for everything. The 'scapegoats', as talked about in Exodus. They however, do not die, in the end, it is said they will 'heal the Earth they plagued and give life back to her (Earth).' They must amend what they did, this happens at the end, after 70 generations (7000 years) of being bound hand and foot and blindfolded in the wildnerness, unable to asend into Heaven, nor even look up at it (other fallen angels can). On their return, it is a sign of judgement, because it is on the final judgement they are released. They are also said to be cast into a fire in torment, but the abovesaid comes after not before. Like I've said....who can say hell lasts forever?

There is another account of 7 stars being bound in their judgement for a period of 10 million years according to the sentence. Our years, are not theirs. And, again I recall the passage 'and they will not know the fire will heal them'. Angels are made of fire.

Hi Ashley-Star*Child



Yes, so we agree there, so why did you feel the need to write your post about that particular peace of my post ? did you think that I thought that you thought that sex is a sin ? I wrote this.....



Because there are millions through out the world in many religions that do think its sinful, so that is who I was directing it at if you dont think that, then my words would not have applied to you.

All the best
Faeden

That's a very unhealthy way to think about sex... =\

But hey, we can go ahead and use that logic...

I guess there's no talking... since everything that talks also dies... there's no praying.. since that kinda is talking...

No seeing, or hearing... since everything that can see and hear dies... walking or flying or swimming around would be out to... since, the only beings that can do that die as well...

And those things are just as importaint as sex. *shrugs* To exclued one because it's been so degrated and torn down to be thought of as "evil" and "sinful" is very very odd... and makes me glad I've no part of anything that would think that...

so, Ashley, God marries two people, gives them the gift of sex to bond their souls together, but then they die and go to heaven.........and God says, "nope, thats it, no more soul-bonding going on up here, even though i encouraged it on earth"?

I was just pointing that not everyone thinks the same.




Well, that's the reality of it. Everyone on this Earth is created through sex and so dies. Seeing, hearing etc don't create mortal bodies, sex does.



Yes, it's a Earthly gift...a consolation prize if you will, for the fact that the once immortal Adam and Eve were cast out and became mortal hence created death.

you ignored my post?

Me? No, I answered it lol

Sex isn't a gift, really... it's a necessity.

If there was no gods... we'd still would be having sex. Unless something like in "A Brave New World" happens... then sex is just for fun.. heh...

Anyways if people wanna go to some place that takes it away after death.. more power to them.

I'll stick with what I got...

There is sex in hell, but you wouldn't like it. I guarantee that. It's not, however, sex in the form that it is on Earth.
There are many hells and many different levels of each hell however. There are hells for the fallen angels 'the prison-house of the angels' Pluto being one of them. There are 7 levels of hell, with the 7th being split into 3 making 10, just as thre are 7 levels of Heaven ith the 7th being split in 3 to make 10. This is why I say Heaven is in space, not space itself because both the Heavens ANDthe hells are encompassed there. For instance, the 3rd Heaven, the Heaven reserved for humans also on the other side of it has the human hell. Animals also have their respecitive Heavens BUT they do not get judged, ins't they accuse HUMANS on their death, should they be mistreated, etc. Therefore, through reincaranation, if it were possible for a human soul to incarnate as an animal, they would be free from judgement.

Once again... you're sneaking in "You're going to hell"

Nice try.

No, I'm not, I'm telling you and everyone else that there IS a form of debauchous sex in hell. I did not now nor did I ever say you are going to hell. There are Heavens, Sheol (pergatory) and hells, and I am in no way saying where you are or aren't going on your death. And you are not obligated to follow what I'm saying in any way. Why do you always assume you are going to hell, or that someone is trying to say you will end up there?

To further that, not everyone gets the same punishments and sentences. A sex offender would be punished through this kind of sex, a murder through a horrific form of what he had done. Punishments go according to the sin/s, and not everyone who sins ends up in hell anyway. Every human being sins with the exception of a very rare few, Jesus and Mary being 2 of them. Not EVERY Christian ends up in Heaven straight away either, hence Sheol. It just doesn't work like that, nothing is for certain. But again, this isn't you belief anyway, so why are you worried about it?

Because every time I've mentioned the after life of my beliefs.. you bring up "Well.. they have this in hell.. and you won't like it!" (I did catch that little tag before you edited by the way.)

Yeah, I've been told to 'edit' when I have something further to add rather than making a new post. But if it comes after (like the one above) I then make a new post.

Then do me a favor Stop bringing up hell everytime I mention my belief's afterlife. That's all.

It's not aimed at you personally, nor anyone else, I'm just talking in general



Now, to anyone else who cares to listen,

About the animals, it does say however, after the flood to Noah that if an animal attacks a human it will die by one. It's punishments are on Earth, not in a hell. Just as the 'great monsters' created by the Nephilim giants (they weren't created by the angels, but through their children. Bad kids they were...) which were a hybridization of 200 of every animal of Earth were said to NOT have incurred judgement - even though they devoured the Earth and ate humans etc, but WOULD suffer death and annihilation through the flood. Because they were animals. The rules changed because of them. Prior to that, neither animal nor human ate flesh, all were 'vegetarian'. After the flood however, and the introduction of flesh eating animal hybrids of both humans and animals kinds, people, and animals were allowed to eat flesh...but not the blood, like these Nephilim and monsters were doing, as the blood still has life in it.