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What are your thoughts on this?

i believe it is a completely plausible assumption and have encountered a similar phenomanon-the city i live in has an unusually shaped sign deeming it an "all-american city" and i did some research and found that the exact requirements for this award are somewhat vague and could be rationalized on any town in the usa and i am very skeptical of the official reason for the classification so to speak or why this particular city was chosen-

WOW! This is incredible!

EVERYONE! THROW OUT YOUR GPS UNITS!!!!!!!!!!!

From now on, we go retro-techno! We go for road signs!

Spread the word!

Geez, some people on this planet really need to seek professional help.

Some people have to much time on their hands

Are you skeptical of the official reason only because it is the official reason?

its laughable in any of the pic can u read the sticker, no and all that left right crap, left to where it doesnt tell of a location just, hey u can turn left here?! u have to be driving the wrong way on the wrong side of the road to see them.

The "tactical arrow codes" on this WAL*MART department directory sign have a secondary meaning. These codes are targeting the "GARDEN CENTER". If you have ever been to the GARDEN CENTER at WAL*MART you will know it is fitted with iron bars and chain link fencing, locking roll-down overhead doors, and locking exit with a register, scanner, and key-pad swipe/card console. It is our belief that the GARDEN CENTER will be a detention area where "dissidents" will be detained for further processing and then relocation.

^^^^^^that comes from the link provided by dark

and im sorry but i find it to be laughable

exactly the point -vehicles driving in an "international" format would be using the opposite lane in america

OMG Sunofone, get a clue man. Take off your tin-foil hat and go outside. Enjoy some fresh air, the basement can't be good for you. However, it has done wonders for your ability to detect a conspiracy. My friend, you can spot them a mile away.

if i was a mod i would delete this thread from existance

Well we all know what time it is now.....Time to go deface some military stickers....though I'll probably be sent to prison for this...Oh well!

its spring break "boy" and i live in SOUTH TEXAS "son" ....shoot ill be at the beach all month- ill be the one with a straw hat,shades,tank top,shorts,sandals and a cooler full o'beer--on padre island 20min past bob hall pier ...look for the bon fire(4x4 recomended) y'all come by now-look for my two tone champagne and brown 89' toyota landcruiser----ps otacon you kick ASS

On my way home from the steel mill today I did notice a bunch of these little reflective stickers on the back of a lot of the highway signs....Though for me to be looking at the back of these signs almost got me into three accidents....So I think I'll just quit trying to look at these stickers...their so small you couldn't quite possibly read what they have to say I'll have to fake a reason to pull over on the shoulder and check them out....maybe I can fake an engine probably or something...just very connivently by a series or grouping of road signs!!

sunofone, are you really Kinky Friedman who writes all those great mystery stories and is going to run for Gov of Texas????
I am one of your loyal fans

I think there is room for concern...some things seem a little too far fetched like the jewelers sign being a detention area marker but the other highway signs do seem to be targeted with some kind of meaningful stickers...who put them there?DOT? I tell you what I think in the long run...the military and the Fed are not to be trusted...ever wonder why democracy and elections in this country don't work? Because the permaent government doesn't want them to. There is too much money and power at stake to risk it to people like John Kennedy or Robert Kennedy or to make reparations to colored folks for their suffering...or to have allowed Martin Luther King to have lived...our Nation is run by people worse than Saddam Hussien so I expect another 9-11 style attack so this Countrys rulers can enforce Martial Law. The enemy is not terrorism...it is democracy...true democracy.

dmgspycat you seem to be prone to histrionics and drama a little. Maybe a touch of paranoia.

Can you be considered objective, or do you indeed have predisposed opinions about things?

THATS WEIRD.AND IF ITS TRUE THE WHOLE GOVERNMENT COULD BE MESSED UP
(THE ARMY N.G COPS AND OTHERS ARE PART OF THE GOVERNMENT)

YEAH, AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE SAYING IT'S FAKE ARE PROBABLY PART OF THE CONSPIRACY AND THE REASON THE SIGNS ARE SO SMALL IS BECAUSE ONLY THE ARMY WITH OPTICAL IMPLANTS THEY GOT FROM ALIENS OF THE FUTURE CAN BE ABLE TO READ THEM!

Sorry i just couldent help it !

I dont put my full trust in the government, but this goes a bit to far. I think its foolish to assume such things.

Anyone who has trained with multinational armies should be familiar with these sign tacmars. Everyone have a good laugh but this is a contingency plan if GPS fails--and it has and could go down if our GPS and defense satellites are knock out by nuke size EMP weapons in space. After WWII and Korea NATO had codes like these all over Europe, This is common knowledge by NATO forces.

If things go down badly in the country, don't you worry, there is a plan in place and routes marked to shuttle dead bodies for quarantine and burial operations after a bio/chem/nuke attack. Our Government has our best interests in mind. But I am not laughing about it.

Apophenia. It's not just an obscure word any more.

Ok, I'll buy that GPS might go down. But does that somehow mean people won't be able to read maps anymore?

Or be able to drive on the correct side of the road any more...?




Cz

Couldn't they just be the name of the company that manufactures the signs?

Ah, but that's what "they" WANT you to think...



Cz

Crap! I fell for another one.. Tsk tsk...

...are you assuming a large percentage of the population /can/?

--Jaylemurph

I have notice stickers on the back of streets signs. Never taken a close look or read them but I assume they contain manufacture/operator information. I think its very unlikely that these have any purpose along the line of whats being suggested. However, the highways system in the US was originally designed by the millitary with defense applications in mind.

So in other words, since these are suggested to have a milliatry use, Mr Murphy is calling our enlisted men and women stupid.

My word, putting words into people's mouths. Anyway, given some of the things that "the Military" is frequently accused of in this forum, that seems the least of the insults that have been piled upon them.

You must agree, though, that that observation does apply to a large percentage of the population, who are, let's be quite honest, not always of the brightest.

I know replying to a post from 3 and a half years ago is probably some kind of record, but this is quite an interesting topic, even though it is, of course, merely another occurrence of the usual NWO paranoia; I might just, perhaps, observe in reference to the above comment that that might be the case if, say, the UK, Australia, or Japan were planning on occupying the US and imposing martial law; most other places drive on the incorrect side of the road, as the US do.

I don't really think I am putting words in his mouth, we are talking about a (claimed) navigation system for the millitary. If they didn't have GPS and "couldn't read maps" then they would need something like this. Which is exactly what Murphy is suggesting with his comment, even if he doesn't realize it.

I dunno, I don't think the "larger percentage" of the population relies on GPS right now (at least not for personal transportation), so I am curious how exactly you and Mr Murphy think these people are finding their way around?

I'm not so sure; people do have less knowledge of basic skills that you might have expected people to have in the old days. They do expect the technology to do everything for them. Even if they don't have a gadget on their dash to tell them what to do, they expect that someone else will tell them what to do and where to go. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if the military are finding that out too; that they're having to teach people basic skills that they might have expected people to already have a basic knowledge of.

But then, if the "military" are the mindless drones that this, and similar, conspiracy theories frequently make them out to be, then why would "calling our enlisted men and women stupid" offend them any more than, say, saying that they're just waiting to herd the people into concentration camps?

You are putting words in someone else's mouth, the comment made was in reference to the general population not being able to read maps, no reference to the military was made and nowhere did he refer to the armed forces or anyone else as 'stupid'.

If you are going to respond to something someone has said please avoid implying they've said something they haven't.

I agree with the first part, people don't have the skills they did in the "old days" and that isn't a good thing. However, I think its inflamitory to suggest it to the extent of not being able to read maps. Its the contrast of saying people lack the basic skills that were untilized in the "old days" which have been replaced by technology and saying people lack the basic skills to function in todays world. The vast majority of the population doesn't have GPS navigators in their cars, just like the vast majority doesn't wear velcro shoes, I think it would be the same insinuation to suggest a large percentage of the population couldn't tie their own shoes if there was no velcro.



I'm not sure where you got that. "This" topic implies the military is "mindless drones"???

I think this is your own interpretation and over generalization simular to the ones people make when they suggest that if the government is corrupt then anyone who works a government job must be part of the conspiracy. I think most conspiracy theories relating to the military give far more credit to our milliatry personal than you. In response to your interpretation of the concentration camps theories, those theories often include the deployment of foreign troops. Why? Because its credited to our military that that the "larger percentage" are not "mindless drones" who would turn their guns on their own people.

From any conspiracy theory that includes the letters "NWO". Virtually every single one of them revolves around the premise that "The military" are primed and ready to either herd the population into internment camps, or merely gun them down on the streets after martial law is imposed, and yet, an implication (which wasn't even aimed at the military) that they might not be able to read maps might be offensive to them?




And what on earth is the US military supposed to be doing while the UN is herding the people into the camps, if it's not them that's doing it? Just standing aside and letting them, or is the expectation that would they have been defeated in battle first?

I already gave an example of how this is your own interpretation. You are welcome to make a specific reference to a theory that states the our military personal are "mindless drones". Otherwise, I suspect you will continue to repeat the same above claim and disregard anything which counters your opinion.

To illustrate again the level your interpretation departs from the actual content of these theories is your claim that "THIS" theory implies our military personal are "mindless drones". Can you please elaborate how speculation that there might be covert navigational markers on the back of road signs says anything about the our militaries mental fortitude??

"But then, if the "military" are the mindless drones that this, and similar, conspiracy theories frequently make them out to be"

How does this theory suggest our military is mindless drones???



I suspect the "larger percentage" wouldn't behave like the your "mindless drones". Look at the two options you pigeon-hole them into (aside from being dead). They are either the ones "doing it" or "just standing aside" letting it happen. Are those really the only two options you think our military is capable of or are you again over simplifying things? Given only those options, what can we suggest you would do? Shoot your own countrymen or just stand there and let them be shot? Which one is it?

What you are not taking into account is this code system in a prearranged, pre-planned contingency for a worse case scenario. Every city and town has one; there is a FEMA office and coordinator in each county. They work hand in hand with local law enforcement. A network of color coded routes and sites are marked ahead of time as part of the EMCP (Emergency Management Contingency Plan). A local DNR fireman told burial sites are pre-designated and marked. During a major catastrophe the PLAN goes into effect.

If military is summoned and are unfamiliar with the area can you imagine them fumbling around with maps and charts when masses of people are dead or dying from a bio/chem incident? But if there are pre-designated color coded routes, sites, facilities ALREADY marked in a planned coordinated array alot of the confusion can be avoided. I am not saying maps are no going be used, however confirmation signals using reflective tacmars and color codes would greatly enhance navigation. Maps are not very detailed either, yet the tacmars would "fine-tune" a route and pinpoint a destination using pre-placed road signs. Using road sinage already at these sites the markers become confirmation signals; "THIS IS THE PLACE".

There would be no need for driving on the opposite side of the road to read and decipher the markers. There is a clever tactic that would eliminate guess work and keep you moving with the normal U.S. flow of traffic at a pretty good clip.

First off, the tacmars are used primarily for night use; relating to their high reflective properties. Most military vehicles have lighting arrays on the rear of vehicles that are activated by manual switching panels. In particular there are what are called "CAT-EYES" that are mounted on the rear that can be covered with infrared and other filtered lenses. Most military operations require TWO passengers one to drive, the other a navigator. If these codes are on the backs of signs as you drive past them, side mirrors would easily reflect back at the navigator the illuminated markers activated by "cat-eyes". Since the signs are behind you as the navigator looks into the mirror, and mirrors show everything "BACKWARDS," markers placed to utilize this effect would give a "navigationally correct" image to be deciphered by the navigator and relayed to the driver. I have experimented with this a few years ago using my own pickup truck by just applying the brake lights and looking into my rear-view mirror--and it works. (Don't try this on a busy highway!) During martial law only "authorized" vehicles are permitted on roadways.

Just recently a retired MDOT employee from Wexford County, Michigan road maintenance spilled the beans to a companion of mine. My companion just happened to catch this exDOT guy at a bragging session. He asked him what the reflective markers were for on all the road signs. He stated:

"That's all government stuff in case something big goes down and they are read by mirrors so people won't know about it".

He is not the only DOT employee that has stated similar accounts about the tacmars. These are usually older guys who don't like what they are doing. Many of the sites marked are privately owned businesses that the military will confiscate for operational use. It is your "duty" I've been told, to let them "commandeer" your private property.

Well, what are your possible options, then? Surely, it can only be one of those: either they stand aside, or they participate in it, or they've already been defeated by whoever the dark forces may be. How do any of those show the US forces in any kind of favourable light? Either they collude in these outrages, or they're not capable of defending their country. How is that any less insulting to them?

Yes, actually I can imagine them using a map and a compass to find their way. That's part of basic military training. While the training I took was over 20 years ago and I haven't been keeping up in the practice of it, I'm fairly confident that I could find my way around almost anywhere given that I have a good compass and a relatively up-to-date map. If a soldier in the current military, with current training, can't find his way around with a map and compass, he really has little business being in the uniform.



That's all fine and dandy, but what happens when those signs are removed - either intentionally or by some other cause?



That's got to be one of the most counter-intuitive and haphazardly planned "clever tactic" I've every heard of.



I have a feeling that the alleged "MDOT employee" - if he actually exists - was putting one over on your companion.


Cz

It does sound inordinately complicated. Surely you'd need to slow right down, for a start, when you pass every single sign you come across just in case there is something on the back of it, which would cause havoc if you were in convoy. Imagine the chaos if the leader suddenly stamps on his brakes so that they can peer in the mirror at the back of every sign. I really think that just providing them with maps would be a whole lot easier.



But any soldiers that find themselves in unfamiliar, hostile territory would have to rely on those techniques. That's standard training in any army, even the Ukrainian, surely.

Exactly... and since most military vehicles aren't exactly well-known for their luxurious suspension systems or their "cloud-like ride", traveling any faster than say... 15 mph, anything in your rear-view or side mirrors - even on the best highways - is going to be shaking so badly that it would be near impossible to be sure of what you were seeing without stopping to check. Certainly not a very efficient signage method...


Precisely...




Cz

Many years ago I read a scientific paper about homing pigeons. The experimenters were tracking the birds by radio, using cars equipped with receivers to overcome the short range of the birds' beacons. While mentioning the problems encountered, the paper included the statement "The ability to read a map in a moving car is remarkably uncommon". If this is true of working scientists, then claiming that people can't read maps isn't the same as claiming that people are stupid.

Can we ditch the question of intelligence regarding reading maps? It's been pretty much beaten to death, and is not on topic regardless.

Well, I think alot of people might consider helping/protecting their families. I guess that isn't an option you would consider. Some might even resist and fight against whats happening, again I guess that aint you. Perhpas the reason you find theories like "THIS" one offensive to the military has more to do with who you are than the content of the theory?

I think your comment "Either they collude in these outrages, or they're not capable of defending their country" sums up what you think of the military as well as displays the rather skewed logic of equating "these outrages" with "defending the country". If participating in these "outrages" is a requirement of "defending the country" then according to your logic what ground does your claim that those theories are insulting stand on in the first place?

edit: removed "map reading" content

I'm not saying that "participating in these "outrages" is a requirement of "defending the country", in fact, that's the exact opposite of what I am saying. What I am asking is, what would the armed forces of the US be doing while thse outrages are happening? Why would they allow this to happen? Are you suggesting that, in the event of such a happening as a UN "coup", the members of the armed forces would abandon their posts, and their responsibility to defend their country, in order to take to the hills with their families and hole up in a shack with a shotgun? Please don't say "think for yourself", or something like that, please, just explain to me what your theory is. i really would be very grateful.

Since you obviously have not been out on the roadways and done any research into the tacmars, I can understand the negative attitude. However, what I can't understand is someone who claims to have had military training and would rather use a compass and a map in the aftermath of a bio/chem/or nuke attack shuttling infected dead and frightened dying civilians to "unknown" emergency housing and triage facilities, than follow pre-designated and prepared first response, evacuation plan, with pre-selected sites, marked routes, facilities and "staging areas" for transport and helicopters, set up as a contingency designed exactly for such a catastrophe. This plan DOES EXIST in every state, county, city, town, and village.

It is apparent that your map and compass choice in such a scenario would be a huge mistake and waste of time in a peril of life and death situation. Again, the routes are in place, marked and ALREADY laid out for you; the target sites and facilities are ALREADY marked. You are mistaking land navigation over rough and possibly roadless terrain, as compared to clearly marked intermodal connector routes and roadways with signs and route indicators, where the emergency evacuation, hospital and triage units already exist. I find your arguments and methods extremely "inordinate and complicated" when all of this is already provided.

It is also apparent that you are not familiar with STRAHNET; The STRATEGIC HIGHWAY NETWORK that connects all military bases to military transport routes, facilities, and intermodal connectors. These join with to Federal Interstate Highways which purposely constructed to lead to deployment and transportation facilities, fuel depots, seaports, railroad, and airlift facilities. Yes, we have found these routes completely and strategically marked with tacmar codes. These codes are not limited to road signs only, we have discovered codes on billboards, facility logos, and advertisement visuals also.

Perhaps you know exactly what I am talking about. Your flagrant negativity arouses my suspicion. It is nothing new for moles or wanna-be debunkers come to a message board to trash the truth. I have encountered many critics attempting to sway public opinion against tried and tested research that exposes covert operation of the goverment.

Actually, you put it in an "either or". Either they participate or they can't defend their county.

You seem to be the only one saying they would all just roll over like "mindless drones" or allow this to happen. Like I said, there is very little in any of these theories that suggests they are "mindless drones" as you say. You still haven't even elaborated how "THIS" theory insults the military.



Have I ever told you to "think for yourself"?

Its complex and won't fit nicely into your conceptual "either or's". To begin with, contrary to your suggestion, the military isn't a hive of "mindless drones", its made up of people of all ranks who each have their own free-will. Not all of them are going to be willing to fire on American civilians or give orders to do so. How meny might be willing to do so? I dunno, it depends on the situation. In the aftermath of a major terrorist attack there might be sense of drasticness some could find justification in and perhaps there would be valid justificaion in some case. Or if certain groups within the US become demonized as the threat the to "homeland" some within the military could very accept them as the enemy. However, while its unlikely, if the government just started rounding people up and attacking groups of civilains out of the blue, then I don't think there would be meny in the military who would find the justification to carry out such orders. I also, don't think the military is capable of a sustained campagine agaisnt American civilians. Even in foreign wars soldiers get disillusioned with situations that seem pointless. I think this would be far more a factor if it involved American civilains or people of the same group as their own families.

So, what might those who decide they don't want to fight American civilains do? Well, some might face a firing line, run for the hills either out of concern for themselves or their families, some might even come to their own conclusion who the real enemies of America were and fight against them. Coup d'etats usually don't involve the entire military. It becomes fractured with factions on two or more sides. And as I mentioned before, most of these theories involve the use of foreign troops.

Do you realize that less than 80 years ago Patton commanded tanks in an attack on American citizens where "Hundreds of veterans were injured, several were killed"? It was during the great depression, the attack was against verterans who wanted finacial relief in the form of an early payment of their due bonuses. Was that because as you suggest the military is all "mindless drones"? Or perhaps is a great deal more complicated than you realize? Imagine the finacial chaos this country is facing. Do you not believe that people could protest or riot today? Whats the military to do if called in to "restore peace"? And where does that military action cross the line?

"By 10:00 PM the infantry was in the camp and they routed the Bonus Army and their children with their tear gas bombs. The vegetable gardens planted by the homeless veterans were trampled and by 10:30 most of the shacks and tents were a-blaze. The bravado of MacArthur's troops was considerable. A seven-year old boy was bayonetted in the leg for trying to save his pet rabbit and more than a hundred other casualties were reported. Two infants died of asphyxiation from the irritating gas. The final agonizing irony of this scene from Dante's Inferno came at about 11:15. "Major George S. Patton, Jr. [led] his cavalrymen in a final destructive charge. Among the ragged bonus marchers routed by their sabers was Joseph T. Angelino," notes Manchester, "who, on September 26, 1918, had won the Distinguished Service Cross in the Argonne Forest for saving the life of a young officer named George S. Patton, Jr." wiki

Tactically, a coup d’état usually involves control by an active portion of the country's military, while neutralizing the remainder of the armed services' possible counteraction. The acting group either captures or expels the political and military leaders, seizes physical control of the most important government offices, means of communication, and the physical infrastructure, such as key streets and electric power plants. wiki

Sigh, one more time, It wasn't me that said they were "mindless drones", that's what I've been saying the conspiracy theories imply.

Thank you. .

Now, if we've managed to get that straight, thank you for clarifying what would, as you envisage, ensue from such a scenario. It does, perhaps, I might suggest, require a level of cunning and deviousness on the part of the US administration than some might consider them to be unlikely to be capable of, but we shall see. (If that could be interpreted as implying that I'm saying that the US administration not only couldn't read a map, but couldn't be trusted to go the right way when someone tells them to turn left at the next turning, then yes, that is what I'm saying. )