How much did the ancients know?
I think, perhaps, more than we give them credit for.
The ancient sandskrit tests tell of vimana - flying machines and other technology, science. Such as knowledge of atoms.
The pyramids are still a subject of great speculation. The chambers beneith the sphinx are a topic of great concern in Egypt. Egyptian authorities disallow the releace of information found below the Sphinx. Are they covering up great secrets, or is it merely a struggling government trying to retain their wonders? Perhaps it says that another built the pyramids, thus discrediting Egypt. Either way, it is intruiging.
Glass shards, depressions were found in the desert near Egypt. The glass was turned at extremely high temperatures - that which an atomic bomb produces.
The mayans had an absurdly accurate numerical system. They, along with the Indians knew how long things took - nature wise, universe wise. They knew the need for large numbers.
Just how unintelligent or intelligent were our ancestors, the ancients?
Did otherwordly beings bestow some sort of knowledge upon them?
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You forgot to mention the ancient map which show the land under Antarctica and on which, among others, the Piri Reis map was based.
The ancients knew a lot and developed great technology. Look at what we've learned in the past hundred years. Much of it due to war.
Well, there used to be much more little wars, so who knows what the ancients developed over those thousands of years. Just Europe and the new world forgot it due to ignorance... I think anyway
The ancients knew a lot and developed great technology. Look at what we've learned in the past hundred years. Much of it due to war.
Well, there used to be much more little wars, so who knows what the ancients developed over those thousands of years. Just Europe and the new world forgot it due to ignorance... I think anyway
Yeah. It's just such a shame that all they left as evidence is one musty old map which was made in the 1500s (how ancient ?)
"Are they covering up great secrets, or is it merely a struggling government trying to retain their wonders"
I think its more likely that they're still telling the truth and that there is no chamber under the front paws of the sphinx no matter how loudly graham hancock saya there is. He is after all a journalist and not an egyptologist.
So an old book tells of flying machines.
Hg wells wrote about the same thing and televisions and space flight. Does that make him one of your technologically advanced ancients.
Or does it mean that you have read one too many dodgy books.
You may or may not be aware of the fact that writers don't write books to get the truth out to the public. They write books in order to make their bank manager smile and line their pockets
Oh and just for your information it is impossible to make glass at the temperature that an atomic bomb generates. It makes a lot of ash though.
The ancients great technology where is it today ?
In the same place it was then. In the hearts and minds of men
"Are they covering up great secrets, or is it merely a struggling government trying to retain their wonders"
I think its more likely that they're still telling the truth and that there is no chamber under the front paws of the sphinx no matter how loudly graham hancock saya there is. He is after all a journalist and not an egyptologist.
So an old book tells of flying machines.
Hg wells wrote about the same thing and televisions and space flight. Does that make him one of your technologically advanced ancients.
Or does it mean that you have read one too many dodgy books.
You may or may not be aware of the fact that writers don't write books to get the truth out to the public. They write books in order to make their bank manager smile and line their pockets
Oh and just for your information it is impossible to make glass at the temperature that an atomic bomb generates. It makes a lot of ash though.
The ancients great technology where is it today ?
In the same place it was then. In the hearts and minds of men
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Yeah. It's just such a shame that all they left as evidence is one musty old map which was made in the 1500s (how ancient ?)
Check your facts...and learn to read before you reply next time.
THE PIRI REIS MAP WAS BASED ON ANCIENT MAPS!!! when piri reis drew his map, Antarctica was already covered with ice... and I don't think he scooped it al away to have a look at the land under it, which wasn't known at the time.
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You may or may not be aware of the fact that writers don't write books to get the truth out to the public. They write books in order to make their bank manager smile and line their pockets
You should visit a different library next time and start thinking about the fact that not al people are capitalists.
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Oh and just for your information it is impossible to make glass at the temperature that an atomic bomb generates. It makes a lot of ash though.
Can't argue with you there.
"Check your facts...and learn to read before you reply next time.
THE PIRI REIS MAP WAS BASED ON ANCIENT MAPS!!! "
Allegedly it is claimed to be based on older Maps not ancient ones
or can you name the ancient maps it was based on.
It may just have likely been based on other slightly older maps and the alleged coastline of antarctica is very similar to the actual coastline of south america.
its just aligned the wrong way.
But then old maps used to do that as a matter of course in cases where there wasn't room to show the land depicted.
But I'm sure you know that as you're such an excellent reader ?
"You should visit a different library next time and start thinking about the fact that not all people are capitalists."
Are you saying that Graham Hancock and Zechariah sitchin and his ilk are not capitalists.
Don't make me laugh Sitchin is clearly only in it for the money.
You're quite right though about hancock he is not a capitalist.
He's an anarchist by his own confession.
He told me that in a personal e mail But I'm sure you're in contact with lots of authors who have assured you there not in it for the money.
Name them if you can cos you sound so smart and knowledgable on all this stuff.
You've clearly researched it far more than I have
ha
N- Droe don't make the mistake of thinking I'm a die hard sceptic.
I'm not.
But when you actually research all this stuff properly yourself you find that a lot of it is pure speculation and the rest just fabricated
Then when you see other people making the same mistake you did when you were younger it's nice to put them back on the right track.
e.g. I'm sure you have a perfectly reasonable explanation why Admiral Piri Reis needed a map that included antartica when he hardly sailed any further than the Meditteranean his whole life.
Do you take maps of antartica with you when you go on holiday. Or just local ones
THE PIRI REIS MAP WAS BASED ON ANCIENT MAPS!!! "
Allegedly it is claimed to be based on older Maps not ancient ones
or can you name the ancient maps it was based on.
It may just have likely been based on other slightly older maps and the alleged coastline of antarctica is very similar to the actual coastline of south america.
its just aligned the wrong way.
But then old maps used to do that as a matter of course in cases where there wasn't room to show the land depicted.
But I'm sure you know that as you're such an excellent reader ?
"You should visit a different library next time and start thinking about the fact that not all people are capitalists."
Are you saying that Graham Hancock and Zechariah sitchin and his ilk are not capitalists.
Don't make me laugh Sitchin is clearly only in it for the money.
You're quite right though about hancock he is not a capitalist.
He's an anarchist by his own confession.
He told me that in a personal e mail But I'm sure you're in contact with lots of authors who have assured you there not in it for the money.
Name them if you can cos you sound so smart and knowledgable on all this stuff.
You've clearly researched it far more than I have
ha
N- Droe don't make the mistake of thinking I'm a die hard sceptic.
I'm not.
But when you actually research all this stuff properly yourself you find that a lot of it is pure speculation and the rest just fabricated
Then when you see other people making the same mistake you did when you were younger it's nice to put them back on the right track.
e.g. I'm sure you have a perfectly reasonable explanation why Admiral Piri Reis needed a map that included antartica when he hardly sailed any further than the Meditteranean his whole life.
Do you take maps of antartica with you when you go on holiday. Or just local ones
QUOTE(marduk Posted Today @ 05:27 AM )
Oh and just for your information it is impossible to make glass at the temperature that an atomic bomb generates. It makes a lot of ash though.
Yes an atomic bomb can make glass.Atomic Knowledge?
About a third the way down you will see.
Actually atomic bombs do produce glass.. Just like they did in hiroshima, and nagasaki.
Dont worry about morduk though.. Its fun just reading his posts. He is the kind of person you just let them talk all their bullshit and let them think, you are listening. Its quite amusing really, Im sure the authors of ancient script were trying to sell scripts about vinimas. Must have been their script copy machines that mass produced it eh? Or the television show they broadcasted it on, right marduk? You need to be a comedian though marduk, cause everything you write, is a fookin joke.
Dont worry about morduk though.. Its fun just reading his posts. He is the kind of person you just let them talk all their bullshit and let them think, you are listening. Its quite amusing really, Im sure the authors of ancient script were trying to sell scripts about vinimas. Must have been their script copy machines that mass produced it eh? Or the television show they broadcasted it on, right marduk? You need to be a comedian though marduk, cause everything you write, is a fookin joke.
Thankyou for your opinion majik
when are they letting you out of the institution ?
did they tell you yet ?
btw
"Im sure the authors of ancient script were trying to sell scripts about vinimas"
Its vimanas. Maybe an error with your script copy machine
zandore
I saw the piece you linked to
did you read all of it
especially the bit below it that said "The origin of this immense deposit of glass has been attributed by some to ancient nuclear explosions and alien activities, but investigating scientists have always been satisfied with a meteor-impact hypothesis."
So i guess you have other better evidence that wasn't available to the trained scientists who have investigated this theory ? hmmm
No thought not.
I love that site btw.
I've been reading it for about two years.
The best bit in it is the stuff about modern weapons killing prehistoric beasts.
But theres always a different theory that fits all the facts.
Normally a much more rational one.
when are they letting you out of the institution ?
did they tell you yet ?
btw
"Im sure the authors of ancient script were trying to sell scripts about vinimas"
Its vimanas. Maybe an error with your script copy machine
zandore
I saw the piece you linked to
did you read all of it
especially the bit below it that said "The origin of this immense deposit of glass has been attributed by some to ancient nuclear explosions and alien activities, but investigating scientists have always been satisfied with a meteor-impact hypothesis."
So i guess you have other better evidence that wasn't available to the trained scientists who have investigated this theory ? hmmm
No thought not.
I love that site btw.
I've been reading it for about two years.
The best bit in it is the stuff about modern weapons killing prehistoric beasts.
But theres always a different theory that fits all the facts.
Normally a much more rational one.
QUOTE(marduk @ Mar 17 2005, 01:00 PM)
Thankyou for your opinion majik
when are they letting you out of the institution ?
did they tell you yet ?
btw
"Im sure the authors of ancient script were trying to sell scripts about vinimas"
Its vimanas. Maybe an error with your script copy machine
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when are they letting you out of the institution ?
did they tell you yet ?
btw
"Im sure the authors of ancient script were trying to sell scripts about vinimas"
Its vimanas. Maybe an error with your script copy machine
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Awww, looking for spelling errors eh?? Is that all you have left from all your reading and research? Its funny, you try to sound soo smart until proven wrong, then you resort to looking for misspelled words.. Pretty sad man..
And good one about the institution.. You make that up yourself?? pffft.. moron.
You can't spell vimana and I'm the moron ?
Nice try
No goldfish this time.
maybe you can explain why " the authors of ancient script were trying to sell scripts about vinimas" to a civilian population that was largely Illiterate like you
Nice try
No goldfish this time.
maybe you can explain why " the authors of ancient script were trying to sell scripts about vinimas" to a civilian population that was largely Illiterate like you
And you have been reading that site for 2 years?? I been reading it for 2 minutes, and can see that they say, Evidence points to a Meteor impact of some sort, YET a crater has not been found in the area, that could produce such a large explosion to cause that much glass to form..
QUOTE(marduk @ Mar 17 2005, 01:09 PM)
You can't spell vimana and I'm the moron ?
Nice try
No goldfish this time.
maybe you can explain why " the authors of ancient script were trying to sell scripts about vinimas" to a civilian population that was largely Illiterate like you
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Nice try
No goldfish this time.
maybe you can explain why " the authors of ancient script were trying to sell scripts about vinimas" to a civilian population that was largely Illiterate like you
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Holy hell, you are truly stupid..
Please point me to ANYWHERE, it says, the ancients were trying to sell their scripts on Vimana's??
And im Illiterate?? Please moron, anyone that was illiterate, couldnt post on these boards =/.. Another educational post my Marduk.. lol
oh ps marduk.. You misspelled vimana.. I suggest you read your above quote.. rofl comedy, fix it before anyone notices..
Books werent mass produced centuries ago. so the authors in those days werent in it for the money, They just wanted to share knowledge. Today yes all authors are in it for the money in one way or the other even though they may have good intentions.
QUOTE(marduk Posted Today @ 02:00 PM )
zandore
I saw the piece you linked to
did you read all of it
especially the bit below it that said "The origin of this immense deposit of glass has been attributed by some to ancient nuclear explosions and alien activities, but investigating scientists have always been satisfied with a meteor-impact hypothesis."
So i guess you have other better evidence that wasn't available to the trained scientists who have investigated this theory ? hmmm
No thought not.
I saw the piece you linked to
did you read all of it
especially the bit below it that said "The origin of this immense deposit of glass has been attributed by some to ancient nuclear explosions and alien activities, but investigating scientists have always been satisfied with a meteor-impact hypothesis."
So i guess you have other better evidence that wasn't available to the trained scientists who have investigated this theory ? hmmm
No thought not.
TRINITITE GLASS
Your exact words were hmm
did you miss the piece where it tells you how trinitite glass got its name.
http://www.answers.com/trinitite&r=67
try this if you still dont get it
Note where it says "first nuclear blast"
We know of the existence of meteorites in ancient times.
I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever of Nuclear technology.
Besides which the Glass in the desert you mentioned was not radioactive
"YET a crater has not been found in the area, that could produce such a large explosion to cause that much glass to form.."
and the absence of a crater would indicate a nuclear blast would it.
some people I know are really stupid. You're the best so far though
http://www.answers.com/trinitite&r=67
try this if you still dont get it
Note where it says "first nuclear blast"
We know of the existence of meteorites in ancient times.
I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever of Nuclear technology.
Besides which the Glass in the desert you mentioned was not radioactive
"YET a crater has not been found in the area, that could produce such a large explosion to cause that much glass to form.."
and the absence of a crater would indicate a nuclear blast would it.
some people I know are really stupid. You're the best so far though
QUOTE(marduk Posted Today @ 05:27 AM )
Oh and just for your information it is impossible to make glass at the temperature that an atomic bomb generates. It makes a lot of ash though.
QUOTE(marduk Posted Today @ 02:27 PM )
Note where it says "first nuclear blast"
We know of the existence of meteorites in ancient times.
I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever of Nuclear technology.
Besides which the Glass in the desert you mentioned was not radioactive
My response was to you saying that it was impossible for an Atomic Explosion to produce glass. I was just showing you that it does.
We know of the existence of meteorites in ancient times.
I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever of Nuclear technology.
Besides which the Glass in the desert you mentioned was not radioactive
Woah, that trinite is selling for 10 dollars a gram.. I have a friend that works at a glass plant, I need to have him sprinkle some sand on hardening glass, so i can sell it as trinite..
Zandore, dont bother listening to marduk. He got proven wrong 3 times in this thread, so he hopped over to the nazi bomb thread to try to stir things up there. Thanks for the link Zand, very informative. More for some, then others..
Zandore, dont bother listening to marduk. He got proven wrong 3 times in this thread, so he hopped over to the nazi bomb thread to try to stir things up there. Thanks for the link Zand, very informative. More for some, then others..
QUOTE(marduk Posted Today @ 02:27 PM )
some people I know are really stupid. You're the best so far though
What is this mean?
It means that tragic magic is an ass
Not you
Not you
Quote by Marduk "He told me that in a personal e mail But I'm sure you're in contact with lots of authors who have assured you there not in it for the money.
Name them if you can cos you sound so smart and knowledgable on all this stuff.
You've clearly researched it far more than I have"
Another "It means that tragic magic is an ass
Not you"
Yea, im sure authors are lined up to write to an idiot. And another highly educated post.. So far by Marduk, I dont speak english, I cant read, and Im an ass.. Well lets see.. Im speaking english, Im reading all the nonsense you write (unfortunatly), and well, I do have an ass, its where things like you drop out of.. If you dont understand.. try P.O.S. piece of hmmmm..
Name them if you can cos you sound so smart and knowledgable on all this stuff.
You've clearly researched it far more than I have"
Another "It means that tragic magic is an ass
Not you"
Yea, im sure authors are lined up to write to an idiot. And another highly educated post.. So far by Marduk, I dont speak english, I cant read, and Im an ass.. Well lets see.. Im speaking english, Im reading all the nonsense you write (unfortunatly), and well, I do have an ass, its where things like you drop out of.. If you dont understand.. try P.O.S. piece of hmmmm..
right enough !
Marduk and Trajikmajik....any more throwing petty insults at each other WILL result in warnings being issued.
Marduk and Trajikmajik....any more throwing petty insults at each other WILL result in warnings being issued.
Well they say that the peeps from Atlantis settled in Egypt after their land sank & Thoth re-started his teaching there .. he may have built the Pyramids / Sphinx too lots of evidence in Egypt & around the world its crazy you can find Pyramids all over the planet & the word "Atlantis " has the same meaning in many different tongues too
Our world very old, hell life has been on this world for about what a few billion yrs ? & its kinda hard to think that we were the only type to evolve into what we are 2day .. hell i even heard ( not sure if its true ) that other forms of life may have gained the same or better status than human / mammals .. think about the reptiles maybe they became kinda like us millions of yrs ago & moved on think about it it'll make u crazy !! 
Marduk, seems that you know for sure that the Piri Reis map is based on maps that aren't that old. Tell me, where do you get this wisdom? A little bird told it to you? While researcher, even established onces, say it is...
But hey, I'm not the person to argue with you on your views.
And my point is that not all writers are in it for the money. Many are, like the writers of novels and surely many writers of 'scientific' books are. But not all... So go check in your library for books and try to find some that give you the right feeling about the intentions of the writer.
As for the ancient wisdom... you can say what you want, but I do think older, much older, civilizations achieved remarkable things and had remarkable knowledge. You say it's al rumors, I say there is to much unexplained out there to just say that it's only speculation.
And you can say what you want, but I still think you're a die hard sceptic. This is not wrong though, that's just why I'm disagreeing with you on a few things.
(I'm relatively sceptic too, but not as much as you)
At least what YOU think is the right track. Mistakes are there to be made, how can someone come to a clear vision and good reasons if you try to enforce your views upon them?
Who says he needed maps of Antarctica? He just wanted a complete map... Just like Mercator... They all wanted to be the first with a complete world map and they didn't hesitate to use old sources for that.
But hey, I'm not the person to argue with you on your views.
And my point is that not all writers are in it for the money. Many are, like the writers of novels and surely many writers of 'scientific' books are. But not all... So go check in your library for books and try to find some that give you the right feeling about the intentions of the writer.
As for the ancient wisdom... you can say what you want, but I do think older, much older, civilizations achieved remarkable things and had remarkable knowledge. You say it's al rumors, I say there is to much unexplained out there to just say that it's only speculation.
And you can say what you want, but I still think you're a die hard sceptic. This is not wrong though, that's just why I'm disagreeing with you on a few things.
(I'm relatively sceptic too, but not as much as you)
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Then when you see other people making the same mistake you did when you were younger it's nice to put them back on the right track.
At least what YOU think is the right track. Mistakes are there to be made, how can someone come to a clear vision and good reasons if you try to enforce your views upon them?
Who says he needed maps of Antarctica? He just wanted a complete map... Just like Mercator... They all wanted to be the first with a complete world map and they didn't hesitate to use old sources for that.
they had to have something to move all the heavy stones they used for pyramids, stonehenge, and all the other megalithic structures around the world
Still if you're considering the piri reis map on its own it isn't very good evidence that the ancients were technologically advanced,
Now if there were other maps from the same sources that showed the same thing,
or if even the anomalous coastline depicted was named that would be something.
If that sort of evidence surfaced I would throw myself into total belief.
But theres better evidence than this for the belief that the ancients were hi tech.
Thats why i don't accept it as proof. Its just proof if you want to believe.
It's been done to death by all the same crank authors who have added to its mystery over the years.
I believe that the ancient maps claim was added by erich von daniken.
The only truth to that statement is that It must have been made from older maps. But then the first word of this post is older than the last.
"And you can say what you want, but I still think you're a die hard sceptic"
compared to some people thats obviousely true.
But I don't accept evidence like that to build my house of cards. I prefer concrete evidence for that. Theres far less chance of someone knocking it over.
I'm sure at some point someones going to ask me what evidence I have accepted.
Then you'd be very surprised. I'd love to say at this point that you'll just have to wait for my book to come out. But not being a capitalist I'm not writing one.
Heres that e mail that I received from Graham Hancock. Magic take note !
see the bit where he says he's an instinctive anarchist. Would you buy a book from an anarchist really. Kinda shows up his motives huh
"Hi Steven, (my real name)
Glad this has worked out. I wish there were a way to run these message boards without posters ever being cautioned or banned. By instinct I'm an anarchist. I don't like hierarchies and power structures. At the same time long experience has proved that it is impossible to run discussion boards that are open to any and all members of the public without having to impose some restrictions on some people some time. Ideally this should be no more than all of us normally do in everyday conversation. We don't discuss everything in all circumstances. Some discussions are appropriate for some places and times, others not.
Our moderators, who are all unpaid volunteers trying to keep the boards alive out of the goodness of their hearts, have an incredibly difficult job which I hope you can appreciate, despite the problems. They are honestly doing the maximum, above and beyond expectations, and go through a lot of painful soul-searching over incidents like the recent one.
All the best,
Graham
You'll note that I was eventually banned from his forum for asking too many difficult to answer questions.
Its no loss
Now if there were other maps from the same sources that showed the same thing,
or if even the anomalous coastline depicted was named that would be something.
If that sort of evidence surfaced I would throw myself into total belief.
But theres better evidence than this for the belief that the ancients were hi tech.
Thats why i don't accept it as proof. Its just proof if you want to believe.
It's been done to death by all the same crank authors who have added to its mystery over the years.
I believe that the ancient maps claim was added by erich von daniken.
The only truth to that statement is that It must have been made from older maps. But then the first word of this post is older than the last.
"And you can say what you want, but I still think you're a die hard sceptic"
compared to some people thats obviousely true.
But I don't accept evidence like that to build my house of cards. I prefer concrete evidence for that. Theres far less chance of someone knocking it over.
I'm sure at some point someones going to ask me what evidence I have accepted.
Then you'd be very surprised. I'd love to say at this point that you'll just have to wait for my book to come out. But not being a capitalist I'm not writing one.
Heres that e mail that I received from Graham Hancock. Magic take note !
see the bit where he says he's an instinctive anarchist. Would you buy a book from an anarchist really. Kinda shows up his motives huh
"Hi Steven, (my real name)
Glad this has worked out. I wish there were a way to run these message boards without posters ever being cautioned or banned. By instinct I'm an anarchist. I don't like hierarchies and power structures. At the same time long experience has proved that it is impossible to run discussion boards that are open to any and all members of the public without having to impose some restrictions on some people some time. Ideally this should be no more than all of us normally do in everyday conversation. We don't discuss everything in all circumstances. Some discussions are appropriate for some places and times, others not.
Our moderators, who are all unpaid volunteers trying to keep the boards alive out of the goodness of their hearts, have an incredibly difficult job which I hope you can appreciate, despite the problems. They are honestly doing the maximum, above and beyond expectations, and go through a lot of painful soul-searching over incidents like the recent one.
All the best,
Graham
You'll note that I was eventually banned from his forum for asking too many difficult to answer questions.
Its no loss
QUOTE(marduk @ Mar 17 2005, 07:36 PM)
Still if you're considering the piri reis map on its own it isn't very good evidence that the ancients were technologically advanced,
Now if there were other maps from the same sources that showed the same thing,
or if even the anomalous coastline depicted was named that would be something.
If that sort of evidence surfaced I would throw myself into total belief.
But theres better evidence than this for the belief that the ancients were hi tech.
Thats why i don't accept it as proof. Its just proof if you want to believe.
It's been done to death by all the same crank authors who have added to its mystery over the years.
I believe that the ancient maps claim was added by erich von daniken.
The only truth to that statement is that It must have been made from older maps. But then the first word of this post is older than the last.
"And you can say what you want, but I still think you're a die hard sceptic"
compared to some people thats obviousely true.
But I don't accept evidence like that to build my house of cards. I prefer concrete evidence for that. Theres far less chance of someone knocking it over.
I'm sure at some point someones going to ask me what evidence I have accepted.
Then you'd be very surprised. I'd love to say at this point that you'll just have to wait for my book to come out. But not being a capitalist I'm not writing one.
Heres that e mail that I received from Graham Hancock. Magic take note !
see the bit where he says he's an instinctive anarchist. Would you buy a book from an anarchist really. Kinda shows up his motives huh
"Hi Steven, (my real name)
Glad this has worked out. I wish there were a way to run these message boards without posters ever being cautioned or banned. By instinct I'm an anarchist. I don't like hierarchies and power structures. At the same time long experience has proved that it is impossible to run discussion boards that are open to any and all members of the public without having to impose some restrictions on some people some time. Ideally this should be no more than all of us normally do in everyday conversation. We don't discuss everything in all circumstances. Some discussions are appropriate for some places and times, others not.
Our moderators, who are all unpaid volunteers trying to keep the boards alive out of the goodness of their hearts, have an incredibly difficult job which I hope you can appreciate, despite the problems. They are honestly doing the maximum, above and beyond expectations, and go through a lot of painful soul-searching over incidents like the recent one.
All the best,
Graham
You'll note that I was eventually banned from his forum for asking too many difficult to answer questions.
Its no loss
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Now if there were other maps from the same sources that showed the same thing,
or if even the anomalous coastline depicted was named that would be something.
If that sort of evidence surfaced I would throw myself into total belief.
But theres better evidence than this for the belief that the ancients were hi tech.
Thats why i don't accept it as proof. Its just proof if you want to believe.
It's been done to death by all the same crank authors who have added to its mystery over the years.
I believe that the ancient maps claim was added by erich von daniken.
The only truth to that statement is that It must have been made from older maps. But then the first word of this post is older than the last.
"And you can say what you want, but I still think you're a die hard sceptic"
compared to some people thats obviousely true.
But I don't accept evidence like that to build my house of cards. I prefer concrete evidence for that. Theres far less chance of someone knocking it over.
I'm sure at some point someones going to ask me what evidence I have accepted.
Then you'd be very surprised. I'd love to say at this point that you'll just have to wait for my book to come out. But not being a capitalist I'm not writing one.
Heres that e mail that I received from Graham Hancock. Magic take note !
see the bit where he says he's an instinctive anarchist. Would you buy a book from an anarchist really. Kinda shows up his motives huh
"Hi Steven, (my real name)
Glad this has worked out. I wish there were a way to run these message boards without posters ever being cautioned or banned. By instinct I'm an anarchist. I don't like hierarchies and power structures. At the same time long experience has proved that it is impossible to run discussion boards that are open to any and all members of the public without having to impose some restrictions on some people some time. Ideally this should be no more than all of us normally do in everyday conversation. We don't discuss everything in all circumstances. Some discussions are appropriate for some places and times, others not.
Our moderators, who are all unpaid volunteers trying to keep the boards alive out of the goodness of their hearts, have an incredibly difficult job which I hope you can appreciate, despite the problems. They are honestly doing the maximum, above and beyond expectations, and go through a lot of painful soul-searching over incidents like the recent one.
All the best,
Graham
You'll note that I was eventually banned from his forum for asking too many difficult to answer questions.
Its no loss
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You obviously need to go back to collge reading courses to grasp the intention of this message. He says that in and instinct he is an anarchist. Everyone, in instinct is an anarchist. Instinct is the lowest level of conscoius thought, in which one formulates the best way to stay alive. In this thought spectrum one has not enough room to specualte the advancements or grevences of a more advanced, or any type at all, of government. Remember, humans started pureley on instinct, and only though intellect did they eventaully have elders, then develop a crude government. Government is a creation of man that came about when more than one family lived together in a village. Before then, the head of the family (usually the wisest) made the decisions of the clan. So, instinct and government have no place together in the first place. Also, this writer is not saying he is an anarchist, he is saying by instinct he is. Meaning that not by thought, but by instinct. In fact, he is saying (exactly the conclusion that I have come to with both anarachism and communism), that anarchism is a utopian form of government.
But in any event, I am acting reactivly. Marduke is beyond the point of admitting when he is wrong, and will very likley evade the comments I and all of us have made, and only conveniently answer/respond to the comments which he has rebuttals for. So the best we can do is ignore his ignorance and balligerance and simlply continue on with our threads, instead of wasting time arguing with him and his immaturity. I for one am done.
Could we please get back to the thread? =D
The knowledge of the ancients - how much did they really know?
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Still if you're considering the piri reis map on its own it isn't very good evidence that the ancients were technologically advanced,
Now if there were other maps from the same sources that showed the same thing,
or if even the anomalous coastline depicted was named that would be something.
Now if there were other maps from the same sources that showed the same thing,
or if even the anomalous coastline depicted was named that would be something.
Sorry, I forgot to mention this old man: Oronteus Finaeus (1531)
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But in any event, I am acting reactivly. Marduke is beyond the point of admitting when he is wrong, and will very likley evade the comments I and all of us have made, and only conveniently answer/respond to the comments which he has rebuttals for. So the best we can do is ignore his ignorance and balligerance and simlply continue on with our threads, instead of wasting time arguing with him and his immaturity. I for one am done.
He's got his different views and we, at least I do, live in a relatively free country. So he's entitled to express his opinions and views and he surely is entitled to approach our views with scepticism. Would be a good discussion forum if everybody was of the same opinion
.But on-topic again. The ancients knew a lot.
Again that Peri Reis map. it shows longitude... something which was officially not possible until the nineteenth century.
The knowledge of the Mayan's about the stars and astronomy which can be seen in their calender. Also the temples built which show the certain events in a year and are built with enormous stones while being very accurate.
The Crystal skulls show of some degree of knowledge.
This way one can make a very long list of things that show ancient wisdom.
Another example of humanity being a lot olderthan conventionally held is the foot prints in rock that are alongside those of a reptile like a dinosaur.
That and the sphinx is supposedly around 12,000 years old, and not the 3-4,000 it is supposed to be, as this website shows.
That and the sphinx is supposedly around 12,000 years old, and not the 3-4,000 it is supposed to be, as this website shows.
I'm kind of sceptic in regard to that human footprint next to a dinosaur one. i've seen the picture and I think it's either fake or the other footprint is from one of South-America's (quite recently died out) species of giant walking birds.
I mean the prints are so nicely alined and they are so well preserved. I don't know.
Or perhaps the dino print is real and not all died out 65 miljon years ago. But I don't think humanity is that old. I've heard some pretty convincing theories that humanity is 3 miljon years old, but I'm still sticking with 300.000 to 500.000 years. This is as to civilizations, human ancestors are much older than 500.000 years.
I mean the prints are so nicely alined and they are so well preserved. I don't know.
Or perhaps the dino print is real and not all died out 65 miljon years ago. But I don't think humanity is that old. I've heard some pretty convincing theories that humanity is 3 miljon years old, but I'm still sticking with 300.000 to 500.000 years. This is as to civilizations, human ancestors are much older than 500.000 years.
Adramaleck please allow me to douse yor flames.
"You obviously need to go back to collge reading "
firstly you don't spell college like that and marduk is spelt marduk not marduke.
Looks like your the one who needs help with your reading
I was wondering where it said in the graham hancock letter anything about Government. When he mentions "I don't like hierarchies and power structures." he's talking about his own website, but of course theres your reading ability letting you down again. awww
You point out that before government came along decisions were made by the head of the family. Duh boy are you stupid if you don't see that the head of the family is a form of government.
"Also, this writer is not saying he is an anarchist"
Yes he is He stated it in black and white. Aknowledging his anarchistic instincts is to bring them into consciousness. If you murder someone and block it out what are you, a murderer or mentally unstable
ah i forgot though
You don't read too good do you.
Personally I am not an instinctive anarchist as you also claim to be.
Thats a pity if you intend to spend your life fighting the system with your intellect you're doomed to failure
Have a nice life.
P.s. getting back to the topic theme was what my post was all about.
You seemed to have spent your entire time slagging me off.
Heres a good resource for ancient maps if anyones interested.
http://beatl.barnard.columbia.edu/maritime/atlas.htm
N- Droe. I'm well aware of the oronteus finneus map of 1531.
these are basically the same conclusions i drew after studying it.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/oronteus.html
I expect though you just listened too hard to hapgood huh
remember to keep an open mind but not to be so gullible that you fit facts to fit your theories. Unless you're about to be published.
Seems to be what the public wants
instead of the truth
"You obviously need to go back to collge reading "
firstly you don't spell college like that and marduk is spelt marduk not marduke.
Looks like your the one who needs help with your reading
I was wondering where it said in the graham hancock letter anything about Government. When he mentions "I don't like hierarchies and power structures." he's talking about his own website, but of course theres your reading ability letting you down again. awww
You point out that before government came along decisions were made by the head of the family. Duh boy are you stupid if you don't see that the head of the family is a form of government.
"Also, this writer is not saying he is an anarchist"
Yes he is He stated it in black and white. Aknowledging his anarchistic instincts is to bring them into consciousness. If you murder someone and block it out what are you, a murderer or mentally unstable
ah i forgot though
You don't read too good do you.
Personally I am not an instinctive anarchist as you also claim to be.
Thats a pity if you intend to spend your life fighting the system with your intellect you're doomed to failure
Have a nice life.
P.s. getting back to the topic theme was what my post was all about.
You seemed to have spent your entire time slagging me off.
Heres a good resource for ancient maps if anyones interested.
http://beatl.barnard.columbia.edu/maritime/atlas.htm
N- Droe. I'm well aware of the oronteus finneus map of 1531.
these are basically the same conclusions i drew after studying it.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/oronteus.html
I expect though you just listened too hard to hapgood huh
remember to keep an open mind but not to be so gullible that you fit facts to fit your theories. Unless you're about to be published.
Seems to be what the public wants
instead of the truth
The knowledge of the ancients came from the angels of Enoch. They are accredited with such.
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N- Droe. I'm well aware of the oronteus finneus map of 1531.
these are basically the same conclusions i drew after studying it.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/oronteus.html
I expect though you just listened too hard to hapgood huh
remember to keep an open mind but not to be so gullible that you fit facts to fit your theories. Unless you're about to be published.
Seems to be what the public wants
instead of the truth
these are basically the same conclusions i drew after studying it.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/oronteus.html
I expect though you just listened too hard to hapgood huh
remember to keep an open mind but not to be so gullible that you fit facts to fit your theories. Unless you're about to be published.
Seems to be what the public wants
instead of the truth
Thanks for your concern...
But trust me, I'm not gullible. Far from it. The Hapgood theory, backed by Einstein, is just the best one on the subject of Ice Age, Atlantis, Global Floods, Instantly Frozen Mammoths and a whole bunch of legends I have heard/read/saw. So I favor this theory at the moment.
Plus the fact that the Oronteus Map shows rivers in the coastal regions of the land he drew for Antarctica. Quite recently ice-drilling has proven that there were rivers there. So more evidence to suggest the map is real.
So, all info I got considering... I'm sticking with Earth Crust Displacement.
But if you can come up with a good theory which withstands scrutiny...let me know.
which instantly frozen mammoths would these be.
You mean the one with buttercups in its mouth.
Thats a fallacy straight away
How does Earth crust displacement explain the ice age again ?
You know the only thing about being conned that is true is that the more intelligent you are the more likely to fall for it. You make your own links in this case.
A stupid person couldn't do that.
A stupid person wouldn't believe it.
So its a testament to your intelligence that you do.
I used to believe in the earth crust displacement theory too.
about ten years ago
Have moved on aways since because of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
einstein said of hapgoods theory
"I frequently receive communications from people who wish to consult me concerning their unpublished ideas. It goes without saying that these ideas are very seldom possessed of scientific validity. The very first communication, however, that I received from Mr. Hapgood electrified me. His idea is original, of great simplicity, and - if it continues to prove itself of great importance to everything that is related to the history of the earth's surface. ... I think that this rather astonishing, even fascinating, idea deserves the serious attention of anyone who concerns himself with the theory of the earth's development."
heres the important bit again "I think that this rather astonishing, even fascinating, idea deserves the serious attention of anyone who concerns himself with the theory of the earth's development"
Doesn't say he believes it personally just that its an original idea.
Einstein was a big fan of original thinking.
Lets face it he must have got very bored talking to the rest of us mere mortals.
Steven Hawking is considered More intelligent and a better physicist than einstein.
So far he hasn't spoken a word about it
Who can you trust eh ?
You mean the one with buttercups in its mouth.
Thats a fallacy straight away
How does Earth crust displacement explain the ice age again ?
You know the only thing about being conned that is true is that the more intelligent you are the more likely to fall for it. You make your own links in this case.
A stupid person couldn't do that.
A stupid person wouldn't believe it.
So its a testament to your intelligence that you do.
I used to believe in the earth crust displacement theory too.
about ten years ago
Have moved on aways since because of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
einstein said of hapgoods theory
"I frequently receive communications from people who wish to consult me concerning their unpublished ideas. It goes without saying that these ideas are very seldom possessed of scientific validity. The very first communication, however, that I received from Mr. Hapgood electrified me. His idea is original, of great simplicity, and - if it continues to prove itself of great importance to everything that is related to the history of the earth's surface. ... I think that this rather astonishing, even fascinating, idea deserves the serious attention of anyone who concerns himself with the theory of the earth's development."
heres the important bit again "I think that this rather astonishing, even fascinating, idea deserves the serious attention of anyone who concerns himself with the theory of the earth's development"
Doesn't say he believes it personally just that its an original idea.
Einstein was a big fan of original thinking.
Lets face it he must have got very bored talking to the rest of us mere mortals.
Steven Hawking is considered More intelligent and a better physicist than einstein.
So far he hasn't spoken a word about it
Who can you trust eh ?
Present me the evidence.
Btw, that mammoth with the undigested sub-tropical vegetation in it's stomach.
Perhaps you can present me the evidence in another thread, because this is really going off-topic. So as soon as you got convincing evidence...enlighten me. Until then I'll stick with the theory.
Btw, that mammoth with the undigested sub-tropical vegetation in it's stomach.
Perhaps you can present me the evidence in another thread, because this is really going off-topic. So as soon as you got convincing evidence...enlighten me. Until then I'll stick with the theory.
I don't really think its up to me to present conflicting evidence to the theory of Earth crust displacement.
Its an accepted fact of science that it didn't happen like that
Why is it you think that Charles Hapgood is the only person amongst thousands or even tens of thousands of scholars who believe this.
Kinda same as 10,000,000 lemmings can't be wrong.
I'd love to believe in E.C.D. again,
But most of the incidents that people claim as truth are easily discounted either because they read it in a book somewhere or because it just doesn't stand up under the slightest scrutiny.
If you link to just exactly which mammoth carcass you are referring to I'll show you what I mean.
This thread isn't derailed. It's just a little lost in the quagmire
Like the mammoths
Its an accepted fact of science that it didn't happen like that
Why is it you think that Charles Hapgood is the only person amongst thousands or even tens of thousands of scholars who believe this.
Kinda same as 10,000,000 lemmings can't be wrong.
I'd love to believe in E.C.D. again,
But most of the incidents that people claim as truth are easily discounted either because they read it in a book somewhere or because it just doesn't stand up under the slightest scrutiny.
If you link to just exactly which mammoth carcass you are referring to I'll show you what I mean.
This thread isn't derailed. It's just a little lost in the quagmire
Like the mammoths
Einstein believed it.
And the simple fact that established scientists don't think the theory is true doesn't mean it isn't. Galilei is a good example of that...because everybody knew that the sun evolved around the earth... So basing your thought just on the facts that most people don't believe it is kind of week...
If everybody jumps of a bridge, would you do it too?
And the simple fact that established scientists don't think the theory is true doesn't mean it isn't. Galilei is a good example of that...because everybody knew that the sun evolved around the earth... So basing your thought just on the facts that most people don't believe it is kind of week...
If everybody jumps of a bridge, would you do it too?
I like your bridge analogy but have you considered that I am the one holding on to the pilings and you are the one plummeting to your death here.
Once again I ask for a link to your fantasy mammoth evidence.
If its not too much work
I don't want to discredit you
Just allow you the benefit of time and understanding
Like i have had.
If you'd rather drop the subject because like you said you believe that this thread has become derailed then I have no problem with that.
No retort given, none expected
Peace
Of course you could always provide me with a statement accredited to einstein saying that he believed in the theory whole heartedly, But seing as i already know he made no such comment I don't expect you to
Once again I ask for a link to your fantasy mammoth evidence.
If its not too much work
I don't want to discredit you
Just allow you the benefit of time and understanding
Like i have had.
If you'd rather drop the subject because like you said you believe that this thread has become derailed then I have no problem with that.
No retort given, none expected
Peace
Of course you could always provide me with a statement accredited to einstein saying that he believed in the theory whole heartedly, But seing as i already know he made no such comment I don't expect you to
You want a link? Google for it. I'm not going to do your dirty work because you are to lazy for it.
I once saw a documentary in which the mammoth was mentioned. In that same docu it was said that Einstein provided to mechanism by which to prove hapgoods theory.
There was once a mammoth exhibition near the place I live. There the mammoth was mentioned, I don't think they would make it up just to amuse us.
Also, an American friend of me told that there was a stuffed mammoth in a New York museum. That mammoth was the one found with that food in it's stomach.
For the link to that mammoth google yourself, I have a link in my d-base to the Einstein support for hapgoods theory.
Charles Hapgood first came to public attention in the mid-1950s with his theory of earth crust displacement, a radical geological idea which attracted the curiosity and support of Albert Einstein.
Check here to read the full story
I once saw a documentary in which the mammoth was mentioned. In that same docu it was said that Einstein provided to mechanism by which to prove hapgoods theory.
There was once a mammoth exhibition near the place I live. There the mammoth was mentioned, I don't think they would make it up just to amuse us.
Also, an American friend of me told that there was a stuffed mammoth in a New York museum. That mammoth was the one found with that food in it's stomach.
For the link to that mammoth google yourself, I have a link in my d-base to the Einstein support for hapgoods theory.
Charles Hapgood first came to public attention in the mid-1950s with his theory of earth crust displacement, a radical geological idea which attracted the curiosity and support of Albert Einstein.
Check here to read the full story
Yeah thing is I already posted exactly what Einstein said further up the thread.
And your inability to provide any evidence outside of what you saw in a tv show or what your friend told you or what you misconstrued from an exhibition (Financial venture) speaks volumes.
Either put up or shut up
see i don't need to google the Beresovka mammoth
I have done so repeatedly since i first heard of it.
even before Google existed.
here ya go
http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF1/122.html
heres the opinion of the scientist that actually discovered it
"The scientist who uncovered the Beresovka mammoth conjectured that the animal fell into a snow-filled ravine that protected the body until it was perhaps covered by gravel during a summer flood. "
Gonna argue with that
go for it
I await with baited breath your proof that will consist of entirely what you believe
Unfortunately what you believe doesn't actually constitute evidence does it ?
Unless theres anything you'd like to add
Thats relevant
And your inability to provide any evidence outside of what you saw in a tv show or what your friend told you or what you misconstrued from an exhibition (Financial venture) speaks volumes.
Either put up or shut up
see i don't need to google the Beresovka mammoth
I have done so repeatedly since i first heard of it.
even before Google existed.
here ya go
http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF1/122.html
heres the opinion of the scientist that actually discovered it
"The scientist who uncovered the Beresovka mammoth conjectured that the animal fell into a snow-filled ravine that protected the body until it was perhaps covered by gravel during a summer flood. "
Gonna argue with that
go for it
I await with baited breath your proof that will consist of entirely what you believe
Unfortunately what you believe doesn't actually constitute evidence does it ?
Unless theres anything you'd like to add
Thats relevant
This is not for you Marduk, but for people who are open for to other ideas than just their own.
"Its death must have occurred very quickly after its fall, for we found half-chewed food still in its mouth, between the back teeth and on its tongue, which was in good preservation. The food consisted of leaves and grasses, some of the later carrying seeds. We could tell from these that the mammoth must have come to its miserable end in the autumn."
About frozen mammoths
People have found baby mammoths in Siberia. From the food in their stomachs, it seems that they died very quickly. Scientists don't know exactly what happened to these mammoths, but they may have died in a snow storm.
There were many mammoths, and they had plenty of food to eat. But where they were buried is now very cold. Some scientists believe that the climate in that area changed suddenly after the Flood of Noah. The mammoths did not move to warmer areas, and so they all died in the freezing weather.
This is a site at the level of Marduk (kindergarten)
"Its death must have occurred very quickly after its fall, for we found half-chewed food still in its mouth, between the back teeth and on its tongue, which was in good preservation. The food consisted of leaves and grasses, some of the later carrying seeds. We could tell from these that the mammoth must have come to its miserable end in the autumn."
About frozen mammoths
People have found baby mammoths in Siberia. From the food in their stomachs, it seems that they died very quickly. Scientists don't know exactly what happened to these mammoths, but they may have died in a snow storm.
There were many mammoths, and they had plenty of food to eat. But where they were buried is now very cold. Some scientists believe that the climate in that area changed suddenly after the Flood of Noah. The mammoths did not move to warmer areas, and so they all died in the freezing weather.
This is a site at the level of Marduk (kindergarten)
Yeah thats right.
I totally concede defeat on the mammoth story
You are so correct about everything you have assumed that I won't even bother trying to show you the truth
You obviousley can't handle it
btw
Whats this Noah crap
Don't tell me youre a christian too
That would be too funny for words
I totally concede defeat on the mammoth story
You are so correct about everything you have assumed that I won't even bother trying to show you the truth
You obviousley can't handle it
btw
Whats this Noah crap
Don't tell me youre a christian too
That would be too funny for words
A good site for the question of mammoths et al
http://www.s8int.com/boneyard4.html
Excerpt: The picture in Siberia and northern Europe is no different. Just north of Siberia whole islands are formed of the bones of Pleistocene animals swept northward from the continent into the frigid waters of the Arctic Ocean.
It has been estimated that some ten million animals lay buried along the rivers of northern Siberia. Thousands of tusks formed a massive ivory trade for the master carvers of China, all from the remains of the frozen mammoths and mastodons of Siberia.
The extent of the frozen and buried animals of all kinds can't be explained in any way by conventional geology and the other earth sciences. Truly a mystery which upon examination, demands an answer, not neglect.
http://www.s8int.com/boneyard4.html
Excerpt: The picture in Siberia and northern Europe is no different. Just north of Siberia whole islands are formed of the bones of Pleistocene animals swept northward from the continent into the frigid waters of the Arctic Ocean.
It has been estimated that some ten million animals lay buried along the rivers of northern Siberia. Thousands of tusks formed a massive ivory trade for the master carvers of China, all from the remains of the frozen mammoths and mastodons of Siberia.
The extent of the frozen and buried animals of all kinds can't be explained in any way by conventional geology and the other earth sciences. Truly a mystery which upon examination, demands an answer, not neglect.
Marduk, this has been a day well spent.
You convinced absolutely nobody and in the process made a complete fool of yourself.
But now I'm tired of it and going to visit a bar with a couple of friends. I'll drink a few beers to your health.
Discussion closed as far a I'm concerned.
You convinced absolutely nobody and in the process made a complete fool of yourself.
But now I'm tired of it and going to visit a bar with a couple of friends. I'll drink a few beers to your health.
Discussion closed as far a I'm concerned.
Damn kid u spend a helluva lot 'o time on this site maybe you should get a woman or male if thats how u swing that way get a life kid 
Damn kid u spend a helluva lot 'o time on this site maybe you should get a woman or male if thats how u swing that way get a life kid
Is this a reference to me,
why thankyou for your concern but I have both already so you're kinda wrong on both counts.
I have a life. I work part time hours for more than full time wages which is why I have so much time to fritter away on here talking to people like you.
Thanks
If it isn't a reference to me,
cooool
By the way you may not realise it now but the opposite of a woman is actually a man. I thought it might be important for you to know that in future when looking for a partner
Is this a reference to me,
why thankyou for your concern but I have both already so you're kinda wrong on both counts.
I have a life. I work part time hours for more than full time wages which is why I have so much time to fritter away on here talking to people like you.
Thanks
If it isn't a reference to me,
cooool
By the way you may not realise it now but the opposite of a woman is actually a man. I thought it might be important for you to know that in future when looking for a partner
I believe the ancient people that we were said to have came from are smarter than we give them credit for. For example, just look at native americans. They utilized their surrounding VERY effectively, and at a rate if we current, modern humans would, almost all material problems would most likely be lessened.
=)
=)
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Damn kid u spend a helluva lot 'o time on this site maybe you should get a woman or male if thats how u swing that way get a life kid
Are you referring to me? If so, thank you for the good advice. But Iamb not going to get a woman at the moment, since I'm just out of bed and my girl wont like it if I'll wake her up again. And I have to go to work.
But as soon as I'm finished this afternoon I will follow your advice. Unless my girl isn't in the mood off course.
If you're not referring to me... Why such an agitated reply? Isn't he entitled of his own opinion? Just because you (as well as I) are not convinced he is right doesn't mean he's wrong. We're dealing with mysteries here and it wouldn't be a mystery if people knew the truth. He's just is very convinced of his own views and isn't easily persuaded to belief something else... Well, that's his nature.
The pyramids of egypt's pattern of construction denotes a knowledge of a fairly advanced mathematical concept known as phi, of which the thought was not officially published until some 1200 AD. (well after the pyramids were built)
The great pyramid produces no shadow during the spring equinox due to the angle of its sides and its location.
Also, I've been looking for this for some time, but have been unable to come across it. What is the decay rate of silicon?
The great pyramid produces no shadow during the spring equinox due to the angle of its sides and its location.
Also, I've been looking for this for some time, but have been unable to come across it. What is the decay rate of silicon?
Oh dear, oh dear. Where to start?
Let's clear this mammoth thing up shall we. The vegetation found in the stomachs of preserved mammoths matches that know to have grown in the cold, dry, steppe that covered Siberia during the ice age.
Mammoths were not immortal, thus the fact that millions died simply means that over the course of many tens of thousnads of years, millions of mammoths were born and died. And in the arid conditions prevalent for much of that time, ivory doesn't rot.....
Mammoths eventually became extinct because the climate of Siberia changed. It turned wet. Temperature was not an issue. Wetter conditions meant boggier ground and more snow. Neither of which particularly suited the mammoths. More importantly, it meant a change in vegeation. Which didn't suit the mammoths either. Over the space of a few thousnad years they became extinct, the last surviving on Wrangel Island in the Arctic Ocean until about 3,000 years ago.
There's no mystery about the mammoths other than why those who haven't studied them seem to think there is one
Now, what else have we got?
Ah, maps of the Ancient Sea Kings. That accurately depict Antarctica. But don't show the Drake Passage. Don't show the West Antrarctic Peninsular (either as a penninsular or as an island) and in fact look nothing like Antarctica with or without ice. This is easily demonstrated by actually looking at the maps and comparing them with reality
And finally for mow, dear old Mr Einstein. Yes, he did indeed think that Hapgood could be on to something with his Earth Crust Displacement theory. But sadly Einstein wasn't a geologist and had no more knowledge of geophysical processes than it did about performing open heart surgery. Yes he was an intelligent man. Yes he thought the theory was worthy of consideration. No that doesn't mean it was right!
Any questions, feel free to ask. I only bite during a full moon
Let's clear this mammoth thing up shall we. The vegetation found in the stomachs of preserved mammoths matches that know to have grown in the cold, dry, steppe that covered Siberia during the ice age.
Mammoths were not immortal, thus the fact that millions died simply means that over the course of many tens of thousnads of years, millions of mammoths were born and died. And in the arid conditions prevalent for much of that time, ivory doesn't rot.....
Mammoths eventually became extinct because the climate of Siberia changed. It turned wet. Temperature was not an issue. Wetter conditions meant boggier ground and more snow. Neither of which particularly suited the mammoths. More importantly, it meant a change in vegeation. Which didn't suit the mammoths either. Over the space of a few thousnad years they became extinct, the last surviving on Wrangel Island in the Arctic Ocean until about 3,000 years ago.
There's no mystery about the mammoths other than why those who haven't studied them seem to think there is one
Now, what else have we got?
Ah, maps of the Ancient Sea Kings. That accurately depict Antarctica. But don't show the Drake Passage. Don't show the West Antrarctic Peninsular (either as a penninsular or as an island) and in fact look nothing like Antarctica with or without ice. This is easily demonstrated by actually looking at the maps and comparing them with reality
And finally for mow, dear old Mr Einstein. Yes, he did indeed think that Hapgood could be on to something with his Earth Crust Displacement theory. But sadly Einstein wasn't a geologist and had no more knowledge of geophysical processes than it did about performing open heart surgery. Yes he was an intelligent man. Yes he thought the theory was worthy of consideration. No that doesn't mean it was right!
Any questions, feel free to ask. I only bite during a full moon
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