The Christian religion finds it origins several thousand years ago...not in modern day America. Religion does, unfortunately, have the habit of persisting in the face of endless contradictions from all directions. As I said, however, atheism is becoming more widespread, especially in parts of Europe.

Eastern Europe is very religous, although I don't know about the west. They don't even teach evolution anymore after communism was brought down .

Yes, you're right. I would guess this is thanks in part to their proximity to the Middle East, and other Muslim nations. And thanks, by the way, of another fine example of religion stepping in to dumb down future generations, and imposing their biased suppositions on the world of education, in place of schooling based on facts and scientific findings

Sera,
You speak of biased views... But obviously you are biased against religion...


LBD

LBD, you've made something of an accusation with that...and rather thank take offence, I'm going to let you explain exactly how you came to that conclusion By all means, demonstrate my bias...as a scientist, there is a certain obligation upon me not to be biased, and I would like it to be shown to me exactly where, and how, I am being.

Still got a couple of minutes. Uh actually Eastern Europe is majority Orthodox, I thought you knew your own continent .

EDIT: HAHA you used scientist again , what's that like 120149124991841984 times

Paper Tiger...turn off your computer, you to your room, do your homework, and go to bed. Perhaps, after a nap, you will be more open to adult conversation. I explained to you already...flaming wars are beneath me, and I'm not going to be drawn into one of yours.

Sorry I was just trying to point out you don't even know your own continent. What does you to your room mean? I donn't understand 2 year old typing.

That was a bit biased..saying your less intelligent if your religious?

- Dark

Not at all Well...*looks at the paper boy*...not usually...

What I meant was that religion has a habit of forcing its veiws into the education system. Knowledge is suppressed, and ignorance promoted, by the fact that many religions have in the past, and in some cases still do today, activly try and censor information that contradicts their teachings.

That is what I mean by "dumbing down".

Exactly...

haha I'm not intelligent w/e but at least I know geography and enough to know middle east isn't Eastern Europe

LBD, I'm afraid you're going to have to do better than that if you intend to convince me of my bias A quotation where I objected to religion forcing its way into the school system, and another where I fended off a mindless attempt at flaming me...that hardly makes me bias against religion



Paper Boy, kindly point out to me where I said that the Middle East was Eastern Europe?

Granted you didn't say middle east but let's look at the context,

I'm sure you know most Eastern European countries have a 98% Orthodox population not Muslim so you're basically talking about the middle east which sounds like you think it's located in E.E.

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If you study these sacred books of the HINDU BIBLE (to begin), then, we can continue this discussion! because obviously YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE about Hindu Religion.

Moreover, you are mistaking the Master Jesus with the Cosmic Christ. Christ is not a person but a universal force, it is the Universal Word, and that Word had become FLESH in many Masters and not only Jesus!

BTW "ELI ELI, llama sabachtini" is MAYAN language and not Hebrew!

Mr Tiger, I shall accept apologies for putting words in my mouth at a later date. Before we next speak, I expect you to look up the word "proximity" in the dictionary, and write out the definition ten times before the next class.

Anyway, LBD...I believe you were about to discuss my bias...allow me to make it clear, I am actually looking for an explanation for the assumption...not throwing down a guantlet to start something petty. I genuinly want to see, from your point of veiw, what I said that was bias...I assume you must have drawn your conclusion from more than the quotes statement.

LOL!!!!!! Actually if you hear how it's pronounced you wouldn't be saying it's Mayan

Ah much like the Catholics library of banned books lol (to which 'the DaVinci Code' was a recent addition, correct?)

Awrite coo' I see where you were goin with that lol

- Dark

Do you know Mayan language?

Because, I study Mayan Language and I know native people who speak it very well!

No just more than half my friends are from Mexico and are Mayan.

llama doesn't mean name in Hebrew if you were thinking that.

Well, I wasn't specifically refering to that...I think the Church probably has as much right to speak out against a book as the writer has to publish it...do I think it's stupid to do so, very? But they do have a right to ask their practitioners not to read it...just so long as they don't start forcing them not to

My objection is actually religion forcing its way into the classroom...which it has no more right doing than if I were to walk into a church, and start telling them how their beliefs are wrong, in their own clubhouse no less and so on and so forth.

Are they Mayans from Oaxaca or from Monterrey?

Sera,
I am really not looking to start a petty flame war with you, thats not my way, and I can see its not your way, nothing but respect for you... But its obvious we are both biased to our sides... You have science, I have my faith...
But a lot of the times what you says makes it sound like you look your nose down at us christians... Not saying thats what you try to do, anyways...

I will agree to disagree for the time...

LBD

LBD, you are, in some respects, correct...I freely admit that I'm sarcastic, and I do veiw some of the more fundamentalist religious folk on this site with a certain impatience. Contempt? No, not altogether...but I do have very little time for what they have to say.

However, understand that "bias" is simply not a term that exists to me...my veiws and beliefs are influenced by a single thing: evidence. As I've stated a long time ago, while a person can be influenced by outside forces, or can lie, whether to themselves or other people, evidence cannot...evidence is something that either is or isn't, there or not there. And it is to evidence that I look for facts...not to faith, or to beliefs, but what I can say, for certain, is or isn't there.

If the evidence were to direct me towards religion, then that is the direction I would be heading in...however, it does not. When evidence that does point to religion comes my way, it is quickly shown to be more than a little questionable...I simply cannot choose a belief system that relies on blind faith over hard fact.

If that is bias, then so be it...I prefer to think of it as prudence.