i used the search and that didn't help so...

i guess i'm oblivious, but with all of the denial of kinesis, why not prove them wrong? i know it can't be to avoid exposure because some have admitted having kinesis and posted pics of themselves. the reason i'm thinking right now is that nothing needs to be proven. What's holding back?

by the way, i know some "videos" have been displayed, but seems fake because i can fake them too.

I know if I had that ability, I would keep it to myself from the general public...I wouldn't want scientist poking around trying to figure the brain mechanics or curious bystanders asking for tricks...
But I would share it with close people I trust...That's just my opinion...but as far as whether or not it is true in the first place...I can't say- I have never seen it done personally, but I can't deny the fact that it could possibly exist

Perhaps no one can. YET. I think we are on the brink of discovery, and soon you will have the proof you have been looking for... from somewhere.... maybe.

Guess you'll just have to wait it out then.

That reminds me, I'll have to get back to practicing.....

Didn't people here try to plan a demonstration with skeptics as witnesses? What ever happened to that?

Okay, john edwards doesn't count

but seriously. Its because of the barrier. If you had the power, would you go up to your best mate and say 'hey, i can move sh** with my mind!'

What do you think they would say? Besides, i think that kinesis makes us feel special...different. I for one would never want to show it off just because i can do it and someone else can't.

Personally, i think kinesis changes us enough so we don't want to go tell everyone...now THAT gets you thinking.

i forgot who that one person who claimed he can bend spoons with his mind . well, anyways, another illusionist showed me there's a trick in doing that. there goes my belief .

i don't think people have the right in disecting or experimenting on people without their permission...

i spotted other posts (from searching this site) that there were claims of kinesis and proof. can someone give me a link on those site/s?

i don't know about practicing kinesis, but i'm going to practice my illusions.

yeah, they havn't the right, but they'd probably do it anyway

you can't really know, i mean, if there are people with these abilities, maybe they do keep it to themselves and those that go around claiming they do are the fakes...or some of the people who claim are fakes and some arn't...or maybe the abilities just don't exist.

i'd tend to go with the possibitlity they do, but that's all it is to me at the moment really, a possibility.

I once accidentally teleported myself about 10 feet. It saved my life. But I can't do it on demand. I have seen table tipping. There is a member of the SPR named Batcheldor, in England somewhere, who runs "Batcheldor Groups" where eventually everyone is tipping tables and even sitting on top of them while they are being levitated. He won't allow skeptics in his groups, because Psi forces are not like technology. Mental atmosphere and attitude matters. Participants can be a little bit skeptical, but they have to be open to the possibility. They start about midnight, in complete darkness, and go all night. Only after the PK is going well, will he allow flash photos to be taken, or night-vision video turned on. There are articles about it in JSPR .

You had a memory lapse is more like it....



You mean he wants people around that are utter retards and believe in anything. I would not call that "proper mental atmosphere" just "favourable". Its people like that who destroy credibility in ESP phenomena.

it's not like there isn't a possibility that kinesis doesn't exist ... but right now, i just think it's a moonphire affect.

I don't think anyone could be found who had both ability and technology. Bit disapointing, really because it would have been brilliant.

I know that, if I had an ability and show it off. Seriously. Catrat, on here, is a complete skeptic and a friend of mine and I would give (almost but not quite) anything to be able to prove to her it's existence. I'm not so much a believer but I would like to believe it's possible. But it does irk me how believers insist it's true but then refuse to prove it. And that the skeptics are so adamant that it's impossible.

Grrr.

But oh well, what can one do?

EDIT:
Here is the thread, if anyone is interested. Well, one thread, at least.