THE TEACHING OF BUDDHA, THE BUDDHIST BIBLE

Please "Christians" study and meditate in all of these sacred texts, without fanaticism!

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HAHA I'll join your cult, let's meditate together, hummmmm, hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :fart:

And you wonder why people have a problem with a few christians' additudes...

It was sarcasm but he's posting these Hindu and Buddhist, Mayan and all these things and meditating on them. It's a bit odd none the less but it was sarcasm.

HUM is a sanskrit word which means SPIRIT or WIND

And MANAS is a sanskrit word which means MIND

So HUMAN means someone who has a Spiritual Mind.

But in your case HUM is WIND! Your mind is pompous; bloated with stinky thoughts!

hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :fart:

A flatulent mind indeed!

What else can we expect from a flatulent mind!

I dare you to go to a buddist temple, and meditate, seriously with those inside. Then you tell me if they're worth your.. "sarcasm"

I've been to a Buddhist temple, my aunt's friend is Buddhist. He's cool, buddhist are nice people and I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM .

Then why not show that respect here? There was no need for your blatent show of irrespect. Sarcasm or no.

I've gotta say aye to that. I've noticed that lately people are growing more and more fond of telling jokes and being disrespectul about non-christian discussions on this forum -- not a very nice trend, because if it grows too much I know a lot of people who are going to take offence, like myself.

Anyways, Loge, by meditating do you mean meditating on it as in thinking about it and studying it in a controlled enviroment -- the enviroment you can create when you meditate? I am not a buddhist but I do strive to better my meditation and I do find it very peaceful. Inner peace seems to be the only peace that will work, because people are too blind to see that a step towards balance is a step towards peace. I guess I should brace for some more laughs as Loge tries to answer my question....

Hi

I dont want to sound like I am telling people what to do, but its best not to take the bait of those who wish to cause offence, its best to ignore them and soon they will become board and go else where. Learn from there wrongs, let them make fun of the things they know nothing about all they like, the fact that they do these things says a lot about them as people, so just learn from there mistakes and rise above it, look at them for who they truly are I know its annoying when someone comments on things they know nothing about, but yet feels worthy of deeming something "this or that", but then that is the nature of ignorance isn’t it?. Look at it this way, the fact that they know nothing about something and feels able to judge something makes them ignorant, and this type of mind set says it all about them and there mentality There is no need to argue with them, because there own ignorance has caused them to be exposed for who they truly are, for all to see, so the jokes on them, laugh and move on, by arguing with the foolish makes the one who took the bait also foolish, like attracts like, so its best to separate your self from the some who are blissfully ignorant. Sometimes its hard not to react, I know I do, but I am learning Look at them as a blessing in disguise, because they are good people to model your self on, on what not to be like, and on how not to act

All the best
Faeden

P4P3R T1G3R2, if you have nothing constructive to add to a thread then please don't bother posting. Thankyou

I have a very serious question for the person who started this thread? Have you ever even met a Buddhist from China or India? This site is such a new age garbled load of nonsense that any real buddhist would probably be insulted.

To set the record straight for the profoundly ignorant. Buddha is NOT God and never will be God. He was not some eternal messianic figure come to redeem man that was Christ your confusing your doctorines there. What was Buddha? A man by the name of Siddartha Guatama born of the Brahmin class in India who forsoke his wealth and privalage and spent forty days meditating in the wilderness beneatha bodhi tree. In this time he developed the four noble truths and the eight fold path. He claimed that he was an enlightened HUMAN(the honorary title Buddha in fact means Enlightened One) who had come to understand deeper truths of the universe and that any one could reach the same state by following his teachings. Not once in any teaching by the original Buddha did he claim to be in any way divine or supernatural. In point of fact he denied this idea many times. So where does it come from? Well after he died some of his followers eventaully made the mistake of worshiping him. This was probably either the result of the natural Hindu tendancies towards pantheism(god in all) or possibly an off shoot of the anccestor worship common in China where the religion took root(I'm speculating here I admit). Several sects did split off to continue worshiping and venerating him as there god but the traditionalists have always stood by his actual teachings on the matter.

One of the reasons Buddhism is considered the most pragmatic religions in the world is precisely this. It concerns itself with how a person should behave in the here and now for the sake of finding peace with in themselves instead of teaching them to cling to hope of an after life or appeasement of some supernatural force. Frankly its some thing I've personally always respected about the philosophy and it has some very useful things to say about the world and its problems.

Keep it up Kev the all knowing one



I feel so much more enlightened now

All the best
Faeden

Faeden why don't you try actually reading a book not written by one of these simpletons? Siddartha for example is an excelent work on the actual Buddha and his teachings. Do you actually do any thing productive with your life or simply mock people for disagreeing with your beliefs?

Temper Temper Kev

Thank you for reserting my point. You obviously are as ignorant of Buddhism as the person who wrote this dribble. Can you do any thing to support your oppinions or are you just a walking piece of new age propaganda rejecting any religious idea more then a hundred years old?

That's enough Kevin, I can't recall Faeden ever mocking anyone who didn't share his beliefs, now back on topic and less of the petty squabbling please.

So Faeden I've pointed out specificly what mistakes were made by Lodge can you show me a buddhist text that supports his ideas that actually originates in China or India where the religion began? For that matter can the original author show me any point where Buddha claimed to be divine?

Kev please stop assuming.... Please can you show me anywhere on here where I said that I am an expert on Buddhism? I never said that Buddha was god, I dont understand your point ?

I know a little about Buddhism but I am no expert, I know about the Zen side of it, but never did I say I was an expert, in fact I never mentioned Buddhism once. My post was about not taking the bait from people that think they know it all, and then feel a need to insult what they know nothing about.

All the best
Faeden

Fae please don't make derisive comments about my post if you don't know any thing about what I"m talking about. You specificly chose to come after me. If you don't have the knowledge to show I'm wrong why did you do it? Zen Buddhism is in point of fact a radicly different sect from the traditional Buddhism to the point that some followers of Siddartha's actual teachings consider it a different religion entirely. I put down this original post simply put because it proclaims a "buddhist bible". It would seem logicly to me that if some one is going to write such a text they should take the time to study what Buddha stated. I don't see any evidence of that. What the text does strongly resemble is the sort of creative rewriting of Buddhist belief thats become so popular in the west.

Kev in all your time here, I have never once understood what you are talking about on any subject sorry



Did I ?



Why did I do what ? now I am really confused.

All the best
Faeden

This right there would be you coming after me directly. As for understanding what I say doesn't suprise me honestly. In terms of Buddhism ok I'm going to post some more info directly here read it and you can learn some thing. I'd also recommend reading Siddartha which is an excelent book on his life.

Kev that is called sarcasm.

I am not replying to your questions, because its fruitless, you all ready know the truth and facts, so what good would a ignorant person like me do debating with someone that is as enlightened as you ? I am not going to get drawn into your argument that only you seem to be taking part in.

If you noticed, then you will see I debate with just about everyone else on here, but I refuse to debate with you as its pointless.

Remember as you said I am a so what is the point in me answering your questions?

All the best
Faeden

Ok some Buddhism 101:

The core of Buddhism revolves around two importent sets of concepts the four noble truths and the eightfold path.

The four noble truths are:
1) Life is full of suffering
2) Suffering is due to desire(also translated as attachment)
3) Attacment can be overcome
4) There is a path for accomplishing this

That path is the eightfold path which is:
1) Right view
2) Right Aspiration
3) Right Action
4) Right Speech
5) Right Livelyhood
6) Right Effort
6) Right Mindulness
7) Meditaton

Buddha taught by understanding these truths and living your life properly you could become enlightened and break away from the suffering of the world. He also taught that he was simply a teacher who had attained a special state through a great deal of work and effort. This didn't make him God or even a god or messiah. Some of his followers adapted the idea later but originally he was seen simply as a great teacher or guide some one who's example could teach others how to live. T

If all you can do is be sarcastic about what I have to say why not do us both a favor and not post to any thing I don't direct towards you in the first place? The comments I made were towards the original posters points not any thing you said.

Anyone who does know Buddhism knows that Buddha questioned the existence of God. He wasn't concerned of a God(s) but more of reaching peace with one's self. Some Buddhist concider Buddhism a teaching and not a religion. I know this for a fact not from some website but from meating real Buddhists and Monks.

Thats precisely my point. Buddhism is more of a philosophy of living then a religion in any western sense of the word which is actually true of most eastern belief systems.

Then why are you being so baligerant?

Because I find this kind of nonsensical new age rewriting childish, ignorant and insulting to my inteligence. People should study what religious leaders actually taught not simply propogate nonsense.

How do you know we wasn't posting truths? Are you a Buddist? Last I knew you were a christian.

It sounds almost that if anyone posted anything that was pagan, or spiritual, you'd have a problem with it. That in itself can be offencive to those of us who are such.

KevinM

Don't worry about it Buddha said take his teachings and use them, to find there own truth. He did not force anybody to strictly follow his path. I understand what you are saying I was in a discussion similar to this on what is Buddhism, the trouble is that many cultures and religions adopted buddhism as their own and for some reason still called it Buddhism. And thats were the confusion occurs. However I believe every Buddhist knows of the words of Buddha but have chosen their path whether it's there own or of a organised culture or religion. I have stopped fighting over what is buddhism a short time ago and realized that buddhism is what you want out of it.



Don't worry about it the Buddhist are just chuckle at there blind follies.

I never really bought into the teachings of buddha for the following reason
Budhism teaches us abstinence and all things in moderation

Now is this the body of a guy who believes in abstinence and all things in moderation.
As long as cream cakes aren't included then yeah probably

...

*just shakes her head* Gods.. sometimes I just am left wondering about people...

True but that is just an ideal, you don't have to do this. what Buddha said is we most control all egotistical desires, because often sex and other bodily desires are selfish and can cause you to be blind of what is important in life.

I assum you are a christian right, give me the justification of first Corinthians 7:2-3?, Sex is good but if you must be forced to do this or only think of yourself when wanting sexaul desires, where is the connection between man and women or whater your sexaul preference is?

marduk,

HAHA that was the biggest laugh I had in a while and the picture was classic.

edit: Buddha was from India and Indian, not Chinese looking, that's what I find the funniest thing, it's like people who think Jesus was white.

Silver let me put it simply. Could you be speaking truths? Sure its possible. On what reasonable basis can one conclude its true? Is Loge's web site consistent with Buddha's teachings about himself and his nature? No. IS there any basis in traditional Buddhist teachings to conclude we should worship him? No. Its a recent invention of people who largely skip what the man actually taught and frankly insulting. You don't have to practice a religion to have taken the time to study what it has to say(for that matter are you Buddhist?). I am Christian but I've also taken the time to study a number of other faiths both in college and in my own personal life by reading there own texts and talking with those who believe in it. If I'm wrong by all means show me. Show me a point where Buddha claimed to be divine or sought worship for himself. Can any one demonstrate that my contention that later followers invented this idea not the man himself and that its emphaticly NOT some thing he would be pleased with is wrong? Not idle speculation actual Buddhist texts please. Heck how about a web site created by Buddhists I can find plenty that make clear he did not teach the idea he was God with a minimum ammount of work.

My problem ultamitely that people are ignoring the point of his teachings. In short people are offering veneration to the teacher when really it should be the lesson itself that gets respect.

"because often sex and other bodily desires are selfish and can cause you to be blind of what is important in life."


I'm guessing you're not married right
why would you assume I'm a christian
I mean its safe to assume I'm not a buddhist
But i thought my name was a bit of a giveaway
ever heard of pantheism ?

Therefore I don't feel a need to justify a book touted as the word of god that has no words from god in it.
so corinthians pah. You know where you can shove it ?
Back on the bookcase (in case a mod is listening)

Corinthians 7:2-3 is about how each man should have a wife and each wife a man,
sorry buddy I'm a bisexual pantheist who's into multiple partners
why should i limit myself to a christian failing

And all the religious ignorance here has given me a right migrane. No one follows the correct teachings of anything anymore. Hell, I know I don't follow the right teachings of the shamans and such... Not because I don't wish to, but because I don't have a teacher.

Buddha never claimed to be divine, and now that you've finaly made yourself clear without being agressive...

However that does NOT give people the right to poke fun at or be sarcastic towards it. Just because of statues... Icons... look the way they do.

And the clumping things as "New Age garbage" needs to stop as well. Not everything is "New Age".

"My problem ultamitely that people are ignoring the point of his teachings. In short people are offering veneration to the teacher when really it should be the lesson itself that gets respect."

When you get a letter in the post do you place importance on the postmark or the message inside.
Should someone then joke about the postmark is there anything wrong with that
at least I wouldn't go and nail the envelope to a tree if it had bad news in it.
apparently thats what we're supposed to do.
Lets face it if Jesus had been let off with community service none of you would have ever heard of him.

Actualy I agree with you on the icons. Notice I didn't say any thing about that nor support the person who did. As for clumping things as new age garbage your right many things aren't. The post that started this though fits a lot of the new age revisionism of buddhism though. Its an excelent example of exactly what it is about the movement that aggravates me.

Sorry for my assumption I heard of pantheism accepting all gods were never appealed to me.

what does marduk mean.

And I'm glad you don't lower yourself to Christianity, but what I was trying to say that those verses say you must have sex with your husband or wife when it is demanded. Where is the love and understanding in that when you must have sex when you sex hungry partner wants it but your tired from a long days work.

But anyway do you understand that in buddhism abstinence is an ideal and a choice, not a command.

"But anyway do you understand that in buddhism abstinence is an ideal and a choice, not a command. "

Yeah i take your point.
But aren't founders of religion supposed to lead by example
what am i talking about sorry
none of the others did.

"And I'm glad you don't lower yourself to Christianity, but what I was trying to say that those verses say you must have sex with your husband or wife when it is demanded. Where is the love and understanding in that when you must have sex when you sex hungry partner wants it but your tired from a long days work. "

It's falling on deaf ears here mate.
I don't know who's the bigger nymphomaniac, me or my wife
But we've spent a lot of time trying to find out wether we're tired from work or not.
Do you see sex as a chore
I see it as one of lifes pleasures that doesn't cost anything and isn't a part of religion, (well admittedly about 50 % of my weekly wage goes on batteries and lubricants and other paraphrenalia)
I'm easy to spot on the street. I'm the one walking around hanging out the back of my wife

Marduk means "bull calf of the sun". Hmm maybe thats not much help.
Can i say he was a late generation babylonian deity (pantheist) and leave it at that

So atheiests are higher up now? Sitting on their thrones looking down at Christians?

- Dark

Sorry I was not clear on what I wanted to say, what I mean to say is if you want sex but your partner wants to you should control yourself and adhere to them, you should not force sex on to others, thats what buddha was trying to teach about controlling your egotistical desires, don't be selfish about your own needs but think of others at times first when it comes to sex or whatever indulgences that can affect others around you.

Sorry but it was just sarcasm should of left a smiley . I dont think marduk is an atheist nor am I. And again just a little fun.

So atheiests are higher up now? Sitting on their thrones looking down at Christians?
Now youre saying I'm an atheist
Thats slander buddy


"you should not force sex on to others,"
well no you shouldn't. It's called rape.
In my case I don't need to force myself on anyone
I'm a 6'4 blue eyed blonde professional male dominant, the girls are queueing around the block
I only practice consensual sex
It's a rule
and a law
Also theres this thing called switching
I'm happy to provide any sexual service my wife requires the very second she requires it
And in turn it works the other way too
N.B. its quite important when you marry someone to find out if you're sexually compatible before you take any vows.
To do any less is quite frankly being optomistic
Optomism and marriage doesn't work
Millions have tried
and failed

Fair enough, You were right though I am not married, But I see what you mean. I sure don't want to be with somebody who does not express the same idea of sexuality with me.

But if you or your wife were to object one night, you don't think you should obey the spouses wishes?

and I like your use of the emoticons

Wow Loge sorry for being off topic.

Any way you can choose not to reply, I got to go.

"But if you or your wife were to object one night, you don't think you should obey the spouses wishes?"
she hasn't ever done that nor do i think she would. I only ever intended to marry the once and I waited 34 years for the right woman to come along
Patience brings its own rewards

however in the event

i'd probably divorce her and date her sisters or something

No thanks. You go ahead though, enlighten yourself still you start flying.