So if, according to the bible man was created in the image of god...what were women made in the image of....obviously men and women differ physically. Now im sure some of you will say "well eve was made from the rib of adam..so thats her image"...well as you can see that makes no sense...just as man was made from "dust"...and men dont seem to resemble dust last time i checked neither do women resemble a rib...the question is quite perplexing...please give me your thoughts on this issue.

Hi,

The fact that we are created in the image of God means that God assigned some of His attributes to be given to man. We are able to reason, we have a mind, will, and emotions just as God does. It does not mean that we have all the attributes of God. God is omniscient (all knowing), omnipotent (all powerful), omnipresent (everywhere and ever present), He has Being of Himself (selfhood and eternality). We have being but it is given to us by God, we do not have it of ourselves and our being is subject to Him, whether we accept it or not. We have knowledge, power and presence but not in the way that God does. God is Triune, (One God defined in Three distinct Persons), each being God individually and all being God corporately, but always One God, not three. In contrast, we have only one being.

http://www.gotquestions.org/image-of-God.html

Hm. Never took the time to think about that before..

Bah. Now is clearly not my time lol..sumone else step up to the plate?

If I had to answer tho, I'd say that God is all-knowing, therefore he knew what man needed to accompany him on this planet..(and, quite frankly, to keep us line on the odd occasion )

Either that er he just programmed us to like the look of the woman he was about to create lol

- Dark

hmmmm for some reason I feel un-sated by your response, so then there's just no answer as to what our physical blueprints were based upon??your answer was a kinda crafty political answer the question without answering yet somehow convincing me my question was answered///

If you want to take it litteraly I'd say man. After all let us make man in our own image. For that matter the messiah of prophecy was to be male. I'd say honestly it reffers to our spiritual nature as beings with complete free will and equal capacity for love or hatred of God.

I think that claiming Eve as first woman is a thing best left to you christians.
Any answer you give on that one is going to be wrong unless you add Lilith to the agenda.
Everyone knows that my mother in law was the first woman
she's certainly old enough

marduk111 I am hoping that you aren't a christian
Otherwise theres gonna be a lawsuit pending

MAN, i.e. ADAM, male, as are all angels male (though without reproductive organs) was created in the Image of God. Eve, (Eva = Mother) a women was made from Adam's rib. God therefore, is male.

Well, I think that woman was created from the ribs of the man. It is possible to extract some female genes from the man's DNA and thereby clone it with speciic traits. But God dosen't really clone, he used his own method that is spiritual, beyond science

Extracting the X chromosome and duplicating it from the XY male's chromosome is possible and can be cultured.

"God" can appear as whatever he/she/it wishes. My belief is that God appears to people in the form that is most comforting to the person, or what that person expects God to look like.

As far as I remember, in this humanity, male and females creatures always come out from within the VAGINA of women and they are created within the Feminine Uterus!

So, not even God can exist without the help of the Goddess aspect!

As below so above!

"Well, I think that woman was created from the ribs of the man. It is possible to extract some female genes from the man's DNA "

well maybe that would be true today.
but why would adam have female genes in his body when he was created from dust.
are you saying that female dna exists in dust now
that would be a miracle huh

Men are dust...
Compared to the universe.


And God created woman from extracting DNA from the rib of a man?
Possible... for it... to do... No?

I see this man/ woman, question come up allot and thought I would share my take on it.
Man/woman are both mankind. Break down the female version and you have Man with the womb ie: Woman.
I feel woman are doubly blessed as they are able to produce the next generation.
So cheers to all the Man with the womb=Women.
all the best
Irish

Hi all

To me the Divine is both male and female, I dont look at god and goddess as man and woman as such, like some religions might do as sitting on a throne looking down on us, but as universal conscious energies forces that are both masculine and feminine. The universe and life was created when the 2 came together (maybe this is why science calls it the big bang ) They are the energy force that can be found in nature on earth, as both male and female need to exist on earth for life to exist, so it makes sense to me that the divine is both male and female, they are my spiritual mother and father, I think that just thinking that god is male is a little sexist, men in life cant give birth, so the belief that god is a man is a contradiction to me. Its the love between both god and goddess and for all there children, that is the love that can be felt in heaven, and its this love that we should work with in life, instead of fear and hate that the god and goddess dont know.

All the best
Faeden

Faeden,
a lot of what you say sounds so very familiar to me.
What faith if any do you subscribe to

Hi marduk

I am not a fan of labels, I dont mind what I am called, but I supposed if I where best describe my beliefs they are Pagan/spiritualist, I dont wish to be stuck in one religious stereotype, if that makes any sense?

I think truths can be found in all religions, all have different pieces of the jigsaw, and I do my best with what I have to try and find piece that fit into the bigger truth, a truth that makes sense to me, which I have done, which has caused me to have very open beliefs, but one thing that I keep finding is that love is the biggest factor in the biggest truth of things, I know ill never know that biggest truth while alive on earth, and that ill only realise it when my times comes, but I have an obsession in looking for as many answers or pieces of the jigsaw as possible while I am here.

I learn from Christianity, Judaism, most of the pagan paths, spiritualism, some Buddhism and Hinduism. I tend to take all the good parts of many religions and leave what doesn’t make any sense to me, and I form a personal belief structure of all what I see as the good parts as my personal truth, that I am always willing to change the more I learn, I guess for me its like chasing rainbows.

But whatever it is I am learning its helped me to become a better person, both towards my self, and towards others so I must be doing something right.

I think the love and wisdom of god and goddess can be found on earth if we know how and where to look, you can see it in nature.

I think the physical world mimics the spiritual one, its just that the spiritual ones is existing on a much higher plain of thought or vibration. The nature of the highest spheres of the spirit side can be found here, but then so can the lower slower vibrating spheres. Both positive and negative sides of nature can be experienced here, and we can learn from both of them, as to me physical life is a school for learning, its here for our spirit selves to experience what it might not be able to experience in our real home "Heaven" so we all come here to better our selves, and to get a better understanding of love, and maybe one day achieve unconditional love and be at one with the universe, or what many call God.

all the best
Faeden

Adam was never male as the learned ignoramuses believe.

Adam was a hermaphrodite, a creature with male-female sexual organs in one body.

So, before Eve was taken from the BODY of ADAM, she was part of that body; therefore Adam was not male but Male-Female as it is written:

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”

“ This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

” Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.”

Adam is a generic name for the Lemurian Root Race that existed on the planet. This Race was a Race of Hermaphrodites; the Bible calls this Root Race ADAM.

When we state that the Lemurians were hermaphrodites, it invites us to explore the physical body. Certainly, the nipples on the male body are nothing else but atrophied mammary glands, and the clitoris on the female body is an atrophied masculine phallus which has withdrawn with nervous ligaments. So in the human organism we have the evidence that in the past, the human body was hermaphrodite.

Still in these times we find people with both sexual organs. Therefore, this is proof or testimony for the persons who deny this fact, so that they cannot obstinately deny or ignore these truths which are unknown to so many people.

The Lemurians were divided into opposite sexes over the years through the process of evolution. Then, children were being born with one sexual organ more developed than the other. Finally the day arrived in which the children appeared unisexual (one sexual organ).

Therefore, when the sexes were divided, sexual cooperation was needed in order to create.

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Still in these times there exist in our society some people that are born with both sexual organs!

True Hermaphroditic Humans have nothing to do with Homosexuality or Lesbianism.

Where do I start? You present a host of logical inconsistencies about God.

Let's detail them here.

01. "God assigned some of His attributes to be given to man." and... "We have being but it is given to us by God.
You realize that an omnipotent being would be limited if he did have these attributes, but then again not having them would limit God in his omnipotence? We have being, but God can not both have being and not have being. This is a contradiction. Something can not be A and A at the same time.

02."omniscient (all knowing), omnipotent (all powerful)"
An all-knowing being that is all-powerful would not be able to change it's decisions. Having doing so, he would still be all-powerful but not all-knowning. This is a hopeless regressive trap. Therefore, each is logically inconsistent with each other. Something can not be A and A at the same time.

Otherwise you are really describing more of a robot plodding along eternity, than a sentient being.


03. We have knowledge, power and presence but not in the way that God does."
Because God supernatural.

Since this is the case, again, God can not both those things. If God is omnipotent, he should also be able to remove these qualities of being all-knowledgeable, all-powerful, and all-present from itself. But to remain omnipotent, God would have to be all-knowledgeable, all-powerful, and all-present. Another contradiction.

Something can not be A and A at the same time.

04. The fact that we are created in the image of God means that God assigned some of His attributes to be given to man. We are able to reason, we have a mind, will, and emotions just as God does. "
You present a cosmological proof for God's existence, positing that God is the reason that man has reason, etc. However, this proof fails, as God must have received his reason from something higher than himself? Another God. Then where did that higher God receive his? Another God once again. You see where this going. Infinite regression. Therefore this proof of god's existence, or at the very least you definition of him, fails underneath its own internal logic.

05. We have being but it is given to us by God, we do not have it of ourselves and our being is subject to Him, whether we accept it or not."
I don't know if you believe in predestination, but if you do, freewill is null and void, so really, your statement is meaningless. As you know, Bible-God determines who he chooses to bestow his grace on.

Therefore, once again, something can not be A and A at the same time, as freewill and predestination contradict each other.

06. God is Triune"
3 ≠ 1... as 1 ≠3 Something can not be A and A at the same time.

07. '... but always One God"
I wonder how you feel about Jesus committing these acts from this small OT sampling:



Remember Jesus, when asked if he was God or not, answered that "I am" before Abraham.

Loge, you to have a very unique perspective on events. Lemurians were hermaphrodites? While currently there are some people born with primary and sexual characteristics of both genders, it is rare that human hermaphrodites are fully functional reproductively.

Yes, it is rare that present human hermaphrodites are fully functional reproductively. But at the time of Lemuria the hermaphrodites were completely developed!

It is stated, that in a determinate period, the egg within the womb of the hermaphrodite Lemurian body was open and a child was born from it. This child was then nourished from the breasts of the Father-Mother (Adam).

rib? well my theory is that christianddom is like greek mythology, when ever you think of a god , you automatically think of a old man in a long white beard and who is really big.......ring any bells for those that study greek mythology.....Zeus, the king of the gods...And the rib.... mythology is a way to explain things that cant be explaines, helios brought the sun across the sky , thats why there is light , we have one less rib than women ...so thats why they were made from a rib

If Eve was created from Adams own rib, then they would share the same DNA, so wouldn’t that make it that there relationship was the ultimate example of incest ? Or was it more of a bizarre form of magical masturbation when they got jiggy ?

All the best
Faeden

Loge,
so close to the truth yet so far.
you forgot to mention that the original creature in the garden of eden was adam/lilith.
Lilith felt she was an equal to adam because they shared one body so that when god seperated the two she refused to let him dominate her.
Afetr she left the garden god created eve from adams rib, and eve owing her existence to Adam was very happy to lie down for him.
and lemuria my friend never existed so any inhabitants also never existed.
It was a theory that was in vogue for a very short while and was invented to explain the similarities between lemur monkies in the old and new world.
That similarity is now more than explained by continental drift
I have this tendency to scream whenever anyone mentions Lemuria or the more fashionable epiphet Mu.
There was never a continent the size of the pacific inbetween europe and america.
The last time you could walk across was 60,000,000 years ago when the supercontinent pangea was in existence and then of course the two landmasses were welded together.
Where was Mu.
Only in a few very extraordinary peoples imaginations

Yes Men have one less rib than women ...so if a MAN wants his rib back, he has to join a WOMAN in matrimony!

"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. "

Do you people really take the fairy tale of Adam and Eve seriously? Remember this is coming from the same source that said light existed before the stars and that snakes and donkeys can talk.

Yeeesh!

I take it seriousely as a fairy tale
Don't expect to get the same answer form any U.M. Xtians though

I have a question what does it matter if God who created the earth and all of us looks like a man or woman? What does it matter he sent his son to die for us that way we can live with him for eternity you can find out then.

How's this for incest....

You are the head of the family. The Father. But instead of just one family, all families. You decide to impregnate a female in your family, and not only is she the daughter of someone else (who is also your son), but your direct daughter as you are the father of all people. So she has a son, and not only is that son's mother the result of incest, but that son is you, the Father.

In essence, you – The Father, would be having sex with your daughter, who is also your sister, but because you are also the son, you are having sex with your mother and sister too.

Whew...

Even science believes light existed before the stars. Tell me what was the big bang if not well a BIG EXPLOSION. Explosion means light lots of light.

Light is created when cold and hot come together in storms in the form of lighting and then the thunder the bang. I believe the universal BIG BANG was when two opposite energies known as masculine and feminine meet, and fell in love, and became apart of each other, and then gave birth to life. How was your physical body created? It was created when your mum and dad meet ? and had a BIG BANG of there own, its for this reason that I have the belief that the divine creator is a mixture of both male and female that created our spirits, that we are all connected as one big family of life. I have a very pagan belief, where both men and women are equal, both physically and spiritually. Its male and female that keeps life going eternity, its the idea of god and goddess that makes the eternal soul possible.

As I say, nature its self can teach us so much about the nature of god.

All the best
Faeden

Really? What science believes that?

Light is matter. Light is made of atoms that sucumb to gravity as shown by Einstein's testable hypothesis of the Theory of General Relativity.

The Bible says nothing about "BIG EXPLOSION" just that God created light before he created the stars in which to give them off. That's ridiculous to the extreme.

Furthermore, "BIG EXPLOSION's" give off "BIG" energy as you say... oh really?

Take the recent tsunami for instance. That was a lot of kinetic power released, however, no light was promulgated from the event.

So "big" explosions do not necessarily mean "lots of light."

Besides, the "Big Bang" theory is not the only theory as to the state of the universe. A GUT theory between sub-atomic particles and gravity may show us that we live in an "Elegant Universe" after all.

In the Christian bible,by "man",it means something more along the lines of "human",since back then thats what that men't.I read a history book that menchened that.so i'm gessing that adam looked like christ,and after that,he disided to get a little creative?....wow,that was lame.but it's an idea.

wow,that was a bit off topic...
basicly,it duszn't say....mite be eather.we'er just sort of used to saying 'man' and 'he',but we don't really know.

Light is energy that has properties akin to matter, its not matter. Also a gigantic explosion that would dwarf a supernova in size would logicly release a very large ammount of a number of forms of energy heat and light among them. So yes after the big bang and before the stars there was light. Also quite honestly calling the biblical account of creation a fairy tale is incredibly rude.

Perhaps but so would calling Evolution/Big Bang a fairy tale. A belief is a belief right? No matter what it is.

woman,because women bring life.

As far as I remember, in this humanity, male and females creatures always come out from within the VAGINA of women and they are created within the Feminine Uterus!

So, not even God can exist without the help of the Goddess aspect!

As below so above!
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Thank you!!! My belief exactly!!!

*ahhhh, sigh of contentment*

Not all creatures are incubated by females. Sea horses for instance, gestation takes place within the male of the species. When I die, I'm gonna come back as a Sea Horse.

GOD didn't have an image inmind it was mor so trying to choose which of the two where better. GOD thinks like a man hence men came first, but looks like a woman, hence why they live longer.

What a load of baloney

No its not google gene pools and say good bye to adam and eve



No wrong again there was no light after the big bang for quite some time only sub atomic particles no atoms matter as such only a seeving mass of high energy plasma only when this coelsed to from hydrogen and intern the first stars and nuclear fusion could take place was light given out



only if it isn't observable is it a belief can you see stars ? or do you only believe you can ?

High-energy plasma doesn't glow?

Visible light maybe.....maybe not

The Compton Gamma Ray Observatory revealed the high energy emission of some Active Galactic Nuclei called "Blazars"; few of them have also been observed by ground Cererenkov arrays. Those sources observed with Whipple Observatory emit gamma rays up to few TeV. From the spectral data and variability measurements, a purely electrodynamical description of this emission can be proposed, provided that it comes from relativistic flares at the beginning of the jet. Because of the source compacity, the creation of electron-positron pairs and their escape from the black hole environment could likely explain the shape of the spectra. A plasma dominated by relativistic electrons (positrons) close to equipartition with the magnetic field is a suitable acceleration medium that can account for both the required high Lorentz factors and the short variability.
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I think you might have to clarify what you mean by "glow".

How can you use Adam and Eve as examples of attributes? I don't see how they ever existed seeing as they come across as a metaphor than a real being.

For starters, God(?) takes a rib from one to create another? Whatever! If he is capable of creating the first one from nothing, why the hell did he need 'odds and sods' from the original to create the second being, when he could have easily created the second one from scratch too? Wouldn't that mean that he had technically created a brother and sister to reproduce together?

Next, what could we possibly have in common with an energy? A spirit? A cloud on a mission? An entity? A myth? A storybook character? - take your pick! The only things we have in common (in one way or another) are:

* We contradict ourselves
* We DO judge
* We're two-faced
* We create laws as a way to condemn another

God is all knowing and lives forever and people seem to get him mixed up with other Gods like BAAL .This is exactly why he created Adam to be perfect in his image so that we today would'nt be deformed and go astray from his teachings If we disobey what he teaches we get punished thats why there is a Judicery system.The modern image we should be following today is Jesus and Mary who taught us morals.

How does that sum up what I said? How can people get him confused? I certainly didn't.
EDIT: Who is BAAL anyway?

Lol. Nice wording there:

"This is exactly why he created Adam to be perfect in his image so that we today wouldn't be deformed".

Explain why so many people today are born deformed, seeing as he created Adam so perfectly?

No offense, but I honestly think you guys have no idea what you're talking about. You're all too eager to defend God(?) in his creation and tiptoe around the idea that he seriously messed up. If we resemble him in any way, that is yet another example - we have all messed up along the line.

let us examine what is said in Genesis 1:26-30:

this is pretty clear that mankind was both sexes from the start.

What makes anyone think God created man in the image of himself??

Think about it...if he really did create the earth and the entire universe.....then why would he necessarily make man in the form of himself when he could very well have created other life forms long long long before us on other much bigger planets AND he could have created any one of those life forms in the image of himself and it may not be MAN....come on people we live in one of his smallest of creations and yet here we are discussing wether or not he created woman or man in his own image or is he male or felmale..think people think

only like god in that we can think, and use language. granted, even cats have a "language" but it has only 20 "Words" (anyone who has lived with one knows a few), but it not the same.I also like to use cats because they see colors, but it's all in pastels.also, they don't build cities. Well, give them time.

No not in the sense that the original post was made i.e visible wavelenths

also it wasn't an explosion in space it was the explosion of space there is a very big difference



also inane quotes from the bible show me nothing and certainly do not equate to evidence

on a side note i'm curious if man is created in gods image what purpose does the coxic serve? both in man and in god ?