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THE history of the evolution of the Satanic myth would not be complete if we omitted to notice the character of the mysterious and Cosmopolitan Enoch, variously called Enos, Hanoch, and finally Enoichion by the Greeks. It is from his Book that the first notions of the Fallen Angels were taken by the early Christian writers.

Edit; Loge, don't copy and paste entire articles to the forum without proper accreditation, there are copyright issues to be considered. A mention of the authors name isn't enough.

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SilverCougar
Oh man.. now you done it Loge...


(OK! I need sleep *BADLY*)
Loge
QUOTE(Loge @ Mar 22 2005, 11:39 AM)

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THE history of the evolution of the Satanic myth would not be complete if we omitted to notice the character of the mysterious and Cosmopolitan Enoch, variously called Enos, Hanoch, and finally Enoichion by the Greeks. It is from his Book that the first notions of the Fallen Angels were taken by the early Christian writers. 

Edit; Loge, don't copy and paste entire articles to the forum without proper accreditation, there are copyright issues to be considered. A mention of the authors name isn't enough.

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Thank you!

Actually, it will be a very good thing if all of the members of this website study the Secret Doctrine by Madam Blavatsky. thumbsup.gif

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Ashley-Star*Child
ENOCHIAN Tarot, etc IS 'Satantic', it is STOELN from the BOOK OF ENOCH, in which there is ANGELOLOGY. This is NOT the same as the Text.

Just like Solomon's magic has been stolen and twisted from the magic in the Testament of SOLOMON.

ALL MAGIC GOES BACK TO ANGELOLOGY. No matter which way you're looking at it, you're either calling angels, fallen angels, or demons (the Nehpillim, children of the angels). Those 3 make up ALL magic, and it CAN be abused (such an Enochian). It doesn't matter WHAT form you chose to say your magic is, that is what you are doing, you are calling one of the above 3.
Ashley-Star*Child
Just TRY and go into Enochian magic, and tht little Tarot card of 'The Pit' will be coming to an afterlife near you.

There is good and bad magic, and that is BLACK MAGIC.
Quicksand
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Mar 22 2005, 05:27 PM)
ENOCHIAN Tarot, etc IS 'Satantic', it is STOELN from the BOOK OF ENOCH, in which there is ANGELOLOGY. This is NOT the same as the Text.

Just like Solomon's magic has been stolen and twisted from the magic in the Testament of SOLOMON.

ALL MAGIC GOES BACK TO ANGELOLOGY. No matter which way you're looking at it, you're either calling angels, fallen angels, or demons (the Nehpillim, children of the angels). Those 3 make up ALL magic, and it CAN be abused (such an Enochian). It doesn't matter WHAT form you chose to say your magic is, that is what you are doing, you are calling one of the above 3.
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Don't you know your Bible there Ashley Star Child? Remember it was the "sons of God" (eh, so much for Jesus as being the only son of god eh?) that came down and impregnated the women of earth. What happens next? Your God drowns all of his splendid giants.

Loge
Mag, Magic, Magus, Magician: from Old Persian magus, a priest member of the Zoroastrian priestly caste of the Medes and Persians; in the New Testament the three wise men (three Magus) were priests from the East, who traveled to Bethlehem to pay homage to the infant Jesus. thumbsup.gif

Only the Magus understands what Christianity is! happy.gif
Ashley-Star*Child
Well excuse me! You can acall it heresy all you want, it means ANGEL. However, if you were even knowledgeable in these areas, which you are not, you would know that it indeed is NOT heresy. In the full book of Moses, an ANGEL talks about it and says they were ANELS that married mortal women as ENOCH reported, in SOLOMON, the Nephilim where the product of mortal women and ANGELS and were descending from the thrones of their fathers. i.e. the stars. No mortal does that., in Enoch they were most definantlly, specifically called ANGELS, and so on and so forth. So, go and bury yourself a little deeper into that quicksand there buddy. Case closed. Tell me, do you prefer Core of the Earth, or core of the Sun? Maybe I can help arrange it for you one day. thumbsup.gif
Quicksand
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Mar 23 2005, 11:49 PM)
Sons of God, are 'Bnai Alohim', ANGELS. Just as stars refer to ANGELS in the Bible. In Enoch it specifically says ANGELS impregnated women. Read my sig. SON OF GOD, being the ONLY actual SON of God, being PART OF GOD, rather than being MADE BY God, is Jesus.

Loge,

Oh Bullshit. The '3 Wise Men' were astrologers.
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Now you'r grafting your interpetation of the Bible. That is again heresy. The Bible is the true revealed religion. Where it says sons of GOD it means it. Therefore Jesus is not the only son of God.

But continue your heresy, you GOD will surely roast you for that. thumbsup.gif
Me_Again
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SilverCougar
That flies from Montgomery?
Loge
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1-“And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as JEHOVAH had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.

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“Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.

“For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.

2- “…stand by the river's brink against he come; and the rod which was turned to a serpent shalt thou take in thine hand.

“And thou shalt say unto him, JEHOVAH God of the Hebrews hath sent me unto thee, saying, Let my people go, that they may serve me in the wilderness: and, behold, hitherto thou wouldest not hear.

“Thus saith JEHOVAH, in this thou shalt know that I am JEHOVAH: behold, I will smite with the rod that is in mine hand upon the waters which are in the river, and they shall be turned to blood.

“And the fish that is in the river shall die, and the river shall stink; and the Egyptians shall loathe to drink of the water of the river.

“And JEHOVAH spoke unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and stretch out thine hand upon the waters of Egypt, upon their streams, upon their rivers, and upon their ponds, and upon all their pools of water, that they may become blood; and that there may be blood throughout all the land of Egypt, both in vessels of wood, and in vessels of stone…

3- “And JEHOVAH spoke unto Moses, Go unto Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith JEHOVAH, Let my people go, that they may serve me.

“And if thou refuse to let them go, behold, I will smite all thy borders with frogs:

”And the river shall bring forth frogs abundantly, which shall go up and come into thine house, and into thy bedchamber, and upon thy bed, and into the house of thy servants, and upon thy people, and into thine ovens, and into thy kneading troughs:
And the frogs shall come up both on thee, and upon thy people, and upon all thy servants.

“And JEHOVAH spoke unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch forth thine hand with thy rod over the streams, over the rivers, and over the ponds, and cause frogs to come up upon the land of Egypt.

“And Aaron stretched out his hand over the waters of Egypt; and the frogs came up, and covered the land of Egypt.

“And the magicians did so with their enchantments, and brought up frogs upon the land of Egypt…

4- “And JEHOVAH said unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch out thy rod, and smite the dust of the land, that it may become lice throughout all the land of Egypt…..

5- “Else, if thou wilt not let my people go, behold, I will send swarms of flies upon thee, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people, and into thy houses: and the houses of the Egyptians shall be full of swarms of flies, and also the ground whereon they are….

6- “Behold, the hand of JEHOVAH is upon thy cattle which is in the field, upon the horses, upon the asses, upon the camels, upon the oxen, and upon the sheep: there shall be a very grievous murrain…

7- “And JEHOVAH said unto Moses and unto Aaron, Take to you handfuls of ashes of the furnace, and let Moses sprinkle it toward the heaven in the sight of Pharaoh.
And it shall become small dust in all the land of Egypt, and shall be a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast, throughout all the land of Egypt.
And they took ashes of the furnace, and stood before Pharaoh; and Moses sprinkled it up toward heaven; and it became a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast…

8- “For now I will stretch out my hand that I may smite thee and thy people with pestilence; and thou shalt be cut off from the earth.

“And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.

“As yet exaltest thou thyself against my people, that thou wilt not let them go?...
“And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and JEHOVAH sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and JEHOVAH rained hail upon the land of Egypt.

“So there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous, such as there was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation…

9- “And Moses stretched forth his rod over the land of Egypt, and JEHOVAH brought an east wind upon the land all that day, and all that night; and when it was morning, the east wind brought the locusts.

“And the locusts went up over all the land of Egypt, and rested in all the coasts of Egypt: very grievous were they; before them there were no such locusts as they, neither after them shall be such.

“For they covered the face of the whole earth, so that the land was darkened; and they did eat every herb of the land, and all the fruit of the trees which the hail had left: and there remained not any green thing in the trees, or in the herbs of the field, through all the land of Egypt….

10- “And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:

“They saw not one another, neither rose any from his place for three days: but all the children of Israel had light in their dwellings….

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“And it came to pass, that at midnight JEHOVAH smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.
“And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead.”

HALLOWEEN: (Hallow be this Evening)
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11- “And JEHOVAH said unto Moses, Yet will I bring one plague more upon Pharaoh, and upon Egypt; afterwards he will let you go hence: when he shall let you go, he shall surely thrust you out hence altogether.

“Speak now in the ears of the people, and let every man borrow of his neighbor, and every woman of her neighbor, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold.

“And JEHOVAH gave the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians. Moreover the man Moses was very great in the land of Egypt, in the sight of Pharaoh's servants, and in the sight of the people.

“And Moses said, Thus saith JEHOVAH, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt:

“And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts.

“And there shall be a great cry throughout all the land of Egypt, such as there was none like it, nor shall be like it any more.

“But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how that JEHOVAH doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel.

“And all these thy servants shall come down unto me, and bow down themselves unto me, saying, Get thee out, and all the people that follow thee: and after that I will go out. And he went out from Pharaoh in a great anger.

“And JEHOVAH said unto Moses, Pharaoh shall not hearken unto you; that my wonders may be multiplied in the land of Egypt….
Loge
MAGIC WORDS (MANTRAS) TAUGHT BY CHRIST IN THE BIBLE happy.gif

Christ taught a great magic mantra in order to cure the deaf and those who stutter:
“EPHPHATHA” (be opened)

"And they bring unto him one that was deaf, and had an impediment in his speech; and they beseech him to put his hand upon him.

"And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue;

"And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened.

"And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain." Mark: 7: 32-37.

Another very interesting magic mantra taught by Christ in order to cure the sick and to resurrect the dead is the following: “TALITHA CUMI”.

"And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise.

"And straightway the damsel arose, and walked; for she was of the age of twelve years. And they were astonished with a great astonishment.

"And he charged them straitly that no man should know it; and commanded that something should be given her to eat." Mark: 5: 41-43

Is this difficult? Resurrection is only possible when the energetic cord that unites the soul to the body has not been cut. This very high magical work is only possible when the Divine Law permits it.
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Ashley-Star*Child
I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Quicksand,
I can see a relevance between your name and what you sink into when you post. It was in the full account of MOSES - from which the modern Genesis, after being altered by way of taking parts out, is from - that it specifially talks about Enoch, the ANGELS THAT MARRIED WOMEN AND CREATED NEPHILIM AND GREAT GIANTS WHICH RESULTED IN A FLOOD, as it does also in ENOCH which PRECEEDED the book of Moses as the part of Genesis there is a SECOND ACCOUNT AS TOLD BY AN ANGEL, the first being ENOCH, and it QUOTES the BOOK OF ENOCH, where it say specifically, ANGELS taking an oath to FALL and create offspring and marry HUMAN wives like MEN, etc. In a nutshell, Enoch preceeded Genesis as it was given to Moses by an angel, and it specifically quotes the Book of Enoch, Enoch being the FIRST BOOK WRITTEN, AND THE FIRST WITH AN ACCOUNT OF CREATION, GENESIS IS THE SECOND. If you do not know the history of your Bible I suggest you do some research.

Loge, you may or may not be aware of this, as you seem to read much and understand naught, but MOSES was around some millenia BEFORE Jesus, thereby the quote of '3 wise men' there is irrelevant - the word 'Jehovah' there just further proves that. Second, Jesus did not resurrect via magic, nor has anyone now or ever done so.

Halloween is in reference to 'All Hallows Day', or 'All Saints Day', this has no reference to people being raised from the dead, or the undead walking around, it is to do with spiritual presence or those past. This is not resurrection.

You babble on about nothing.
SilverCougar
Halloween was bastardized from Samhain by the church. Samhain being the ancient celt new years, celebration and thanks for thier harvest. Time for the Crone (who was bastardized into that green skinned warty witch known today)

The dead thing came from the veil between the land of the dead and living was at it's thinest. To honour that, they'd leave a plate of food out for what they believe would be the spirit of thier dead ancestors visiting.

Pumpkin carving is a pure American thing, since pumpkins came from this continent only. Then it was a potatoe or turnip.. and was used as a way to scare off any harmful spirits, as was dressing up.

The Church saw that they couldn't fully squash this celebration in it's never ending battle to convert the ancient pagans, so they changed it to thier All Saints Day to try and make it right.

Bonfires was also a common site as part of the Samhain celebration... since Samhain was the mark for the end of summer, and beginning of fall/winter and to bring hope that the Goddess will soon give birth to the God ... the never ending circle, or cycle.

Ashley-Star*Child
What is your point SC. The ROMAN influence after 66 A.D. bastardized alot of things, including the Hebrew link in the religion.
SilverCougar
My point is.. what Samhain or halloween really is. *shrugs*

Take it as you will... tcha
Loge
“Before proceeding further, let us define Magic in a sentence. Magic is the traditional occult science of the secrets of Nature which has been transmitted to us from the Magi (Priests).

“By means of this science the adept is invested with a species of relative omnipotence and can operate superhumanly, that is, after a manner which transcends the normal possibility of men. Thereby many illustrious hierophants, such as Mercurius Trismegistus, Osiris, Orpheus, Apollonius of Tyana, and others whom is always dangerous or unwise to name, came after their death to be adored and invoked as gods. Thereby others also – according to that ebb-and-flow of opinion which is responsible for the caprices of success – became emissaries of Hell or suspected adventurers, like the Emperor Julian, Apuleius, the enchanter Merlin and that arch sorcerer, as he was termed in his day, the illustrious and unfortunate Cornelius Agrippa.

“To attain the SANCTUM REGNUM, in other words, the knowledge and power of the Magi (Priests), there are four indispensable conditions – an intelligence illuminated by study, an intrepidity which nothing can check, a will which cannot be broken, and a prudence which nothing can corrupt and nothing intoxicate. TO KNOW, TO DARE, TO WILL, TO KNOW WHEN TO KEEP SILENCE, TO KNOW WHEN TO SPEAK. “
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“Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
“And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
“HE ANSWERED AND SAID UNTO THEM, BECAUSE IT IS GIVEN UNTO YOU TO KNOW THE MYSTERIES OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, BUT TO THEM IT IS NOT GIVEN.
“For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
“Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
“And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
“For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
“But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
“For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.” Matthew: 13: 9-17
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Ashley-Star*Child
Another long-winded irrelevant copy/pasted post Loge? What, can't you write out your own posts?
student
Actually I find Loge's posts quite illuminating! He seems to be the only one that is serious here, not only that but he really knows what he's talking about!

Thanks Loge!
Loge
The Bible, with all its allegories, gives expression to the occult knowledge of the Hebrews only in an incomplete and veiled manner.

Certainly, the book of Enoch existed before Moses and the prophets, whose doctrine fundamentally is identical to that of the ancient Egyptians, which exotericism has also its veils. When Moses spoke to the people, says the Bible allegorically, he placed a veil over his face, and he removed it when communing with God: this accounts for the alleged Biblical absurdities which so exercised the satirical powers of Ignoramuses.

The books of the bible were written only as memorials of tradition and in symbols that were unintelligible to the profane. The Torah and the poems of the prophets were, moreover, elementary works, alike in doctrine, ethics and liturgy; the true secret and traditional philosophy was not committed to writing until a later period and under veils even less transparent.

Thus arose a second and unknown Bible, or rather one which was not comprehended by Christians, a storehouse, so they say, of monstrous absurdities – for in this case believers, involved by the same ignorance, speak the language of skeptics – but a monument, as we affirm, which comprises all that philosophical and religious genius has ever accomplished or imagined in the sublime order, a treasure encompassed by thorns, a diamond concealed in a rude and opaque stone: if you know Kabbalah you will have guessed already that we refer to the Talmud.

Christians who want to understand the HEBREW Bible should study the HEBREW Talmud and the Zohar! happy.gif
mako
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Certainly, the book of Enoch existed before Moses and the prophets

Actually as pointed out many times by myself, CD, and Beowulf; Enoch is a pseudoepigraph written (or should I say forged) by the Maccabean scribes in about 200 BCE and assigned the name of a mythological character to give it a semblance of authority (as was the book known as Daniel). Enoch and Daniel are only 2200 years old, the books of Moses and certain books of the Prophets are about 2900 years old, some of the others are steals from other Semitic religions with the names changed to look like they really belonged to the Jews! yes.gif
Loge
QUOTE(student @ Mar 28 2005, 02:11 AM)
Actually I find Loge's posts quite illuminating!  He seems to be the only one that is serious here, not only that but he really knows what he's talking about! 

Thanks Loge!
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Ashley-Star*Child
Mako,

Incorrect, I have already posted here TWICE why it was backdated. I HAVE the ORIGINAL full version copy of the book of Moses, and it INCLUDES ENOCH. Enoch dates back 8000 years ago. Your speculation comes from pop culture, my correction of that comes from evidence.

Loge,

I also HAVE the Talmud, the Zohar, the Torah etc. You have no idea what you are talking about, because if you really DID read any of these books, you would have just the slighest clue of what you are talking about, of which you do not. And of COURSE Hebrew MYSTCICSM is almost identical to that of the Egyptians, the angels of Enoch TAUGHT the Egyptians. If you are really interested in mysticism, why don't you learn it properly? I know all about it. I know about magic, but most importantly I know there is both a dark and a light side to it. Dabble with the dark, and you will pay 3 fold, dabble with the light, and there's still a chance you'll find yourself in hot water, should you use it wrong. Rabbis had magic before, Solomon USED magic, called up demons, these Nephilim, to build his city, etc, BUT he had permission to do it.

Student,

That is a matter of opinion. Your opinion.
Loge
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Mar 30 2005, 02:16 AM)
Loge,

I also HAVE the Talmud, the Zohar, the Torah etc. You have no idea what you are talking about, because if you really DID read any of these books, you would have just the slighest clue of what you are talking about, of which you do not. And of COURSE Hebrew MYSTCICSM is almost identical to that of the Egyptians, the angels of Enoch TAUGHT the Egyptians. If you are really interested in mysticism, why don't you learn it properly? I know all about it. I know about magic, but most importantly I know there is both a dark and a light side to it. Dabble with the dark, and you will pay 3 fold, dabble with the light, and there's still a chance you'll find yourself in hot water, should you use it wrong. Rabbis had magic before, Solomon USED magic, called up demons, these Nephilim, to build his city, etc, BUT he had permission to do it.
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The aim of a book may be to instruct, Yet you can also use it as a pillow; Although its object is to give knowledge, direction, profit.

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Ashley-Star*Child
Profit?! I don't think so. Profit is most definantly NOT the aim of any religious/mystical book/text. There is a reason why the general public was not permitted to use magic, because there are consequences, and when you don't know what you are doing - like you - you end up in deep sh**. You're playing with fire and you haven't read the instruction manual.

Magic doesn't just *work* through measley mortal little you. It doesn't just *happen* with you having some magic *powers*, or by saying a few words. ALL magic requires the calling of angels, demons/Nehpilim, or fallen angels. Good or bad, in the wrong hands, it can be turned the wrong way.
Loge
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Mar 30 2005, 08:27 AM)
Profit?! I don't think so. Profit is most definantly NOT the aim of any religious/mystical book/text. There is a reason why the general public was not permitted to use magic, because there are consequences, and when you don't know what you are doing - like you - you end up in deep sh**. You're playing with fire and you haven't read the instruction manual.

Magic doesn't just *work* through measley mortal little you. It doesn't just *happen* with you having some magic *powers*, or by saying a few words. ALL magic requires the calling of angels, demons/Nehpilim, or fallen angels. Good or bad, in the wrong hands, it can be turned the wrong way.
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Profit?! Yes! I do think so. Profit is most definantly the aim of any religious/mystical book/text. innocent.gif

The problem with you is that your soul does not get it! w00t.gif

Matt.06: 19: Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. thumbsup.gif
Ashley-Star*Child
Heaven is not a 'profit'. In order to get there you need to discard your 'profit' and do as God has asked. Can't take 'profit' with you Logie, it'll sit there rotting in your grave.
Loge
QUOTE(Ashley-Star*Child @ Mar 30 2005, 09:04 AM)
Heaven is not a 'profit'. In order to get there you need to discard your 'profit' and do as God has asked. Can't take 'profit' with you Logie, it'll sit there rotting in your grave.
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11: Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

12: And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. happy.gif
blazer2004
why would you wana use pagan books or satanic books any ways they where not to be played with they are not toys
SilverCougar
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Mar 30 2005, 02:33 PM)
why would you wana use pagan books or satanic books any ways they where not to be played with they are not toys
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You can read and play with pagan books. They are quite harmless... The only thing really is you might learn a different view... possibly...

blazer2004
have you ever casted a spell with a book befor sc??whats it really like
Me_Again
Satan is a myth, the only hell anyone goes to , is their own. So in doing magic wheather for good or bad, is an individuals choice. I practice magic, while gardening. Maybe thats why I don't mind the weeds thumbsup.gif
blazer2004
lol me hehe im sure if ya told a satanic person that they would get mad
SilverCougar
QUOTE(blazer2004 @ Mar 30 2005, 04:45 PM)
lol me hehe im sure if ya told a satanic person that they would get mad
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Paganism isn't all casting spells wink2.gif

I'm not one to cast many spells... if any at all...

And I'm sure if you found a real satanic worshiper that he worships some christian devil.. he'd correct you to what he really does believe. wink2.gif To worship the Christian Satan is to be a christian...
blazer2004
i see thumbsup.gif
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