et's daddy
Mar 24 2005, 02:40 PM
i had been led to believe there was an oil company conspiracy to block hybrid car development, but if there was it may be falling apart
hydrogen cars that run on water and get 99 miles to the gallon seem to be on the way
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...TVhypercar.html
The Roswell Man
Mar 24 2005, 07:02 PM
Redneck
Mar 24 2005, 07:45 PM
It will be great if they can make this work - less pollution and reduced dependence on oil in unstable regions. It will be well worth investing in infrastructure to support hydrogen powered cars, if they prove economical.
Adramaleck
Mar 24 2005, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(Redneck @ Mar 24 2005, 03:45 PM)
It will be great if they can make this work - less pollution and reduced dependence on oil in unstable regions. It will be well worth investing in infrastructure to support hydrogen powered cars, if they prove economical.
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Hydrogen powered cars would be amazingly awesome, I can see no downfall. Instead of oil purification, people would instead need to work for water purification - there are the job transfers, and the byproduct of using water as gas would be oxygen, which wouldnt 100% correct, but would be a step in the right direction of correcting the loss of oxygen from depleting forests.
seeking
Mar 24 2005, 09:15 PM
the emissions of a hydrogen powerd car is water, the only draw back i see is that in the winter the water freeze up the pipes causing them to crack...but im sure they will think of ways to get around that
whoa182
Mar 24 2005, 10:04 PM
Hopefuly we can move to these cars now, or even cars run on batteries. Since we are seeing some significant advanes in batteries over the last year it could be possible.
Within 2 years new types of batteries based on Nanotechnology will be mass produced that could even run a tank

also charge up within 6 minutes
Dowdy
Mar 24 2005, 10:24 PM
It will also cause more rain with all the water vapour in the air. That could be good or bad, depends on where you live
et's daddy
Mar 24 2005, 11:28 PM
i think this will be great but it will be far from releasing us from the grip of oil
way too many builings use oil heat that will never be converted
Flavius
Mar 26 2005, 07:18 AM
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 24 2005, 07:28 PM)
i think this will be great but it will be far from releasing us from the grip of oil
way too many builings use oil heat that will never be converted
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We're not moving on to these cars. They're going to be scrapped for the sake of money.
sure, these cars are cheaper and more effecient, but who cares? The government will choose their oil industry over effeciency any day. It's all about the money.
[G]™
Mar 26 2005, 08:38 AM
THAT WOULD BE GREAT...
AztecInca
Mar 27 2005, 06:10 AM
Well as long as we have something for when we use up all the known reserves of oil...................
Erikl
Mar 27 2005, 11:49 AM
I hate to be the devil's advocate here, but technically it won't solve anything.... you see, in order to produce hydrogen, there will be a need for power.
Now where will we get the power to do that? fuel. What kind of fuel?..... you get my draft, right?
Hydrogen is merely a mean to store energy. But in order to produce that energy in first place, a new non-polluting energy source should be found.
Conspiracy
Mar 27 2005, 10:11 PM
ya, agree with erikl~
Neo2005
Mar 27 2005, 10:14 PM
Yeah but it's a very nieche market for those cars right now unfortunatly we might have to wait a while for those to really take off
poleshift
Mar 29 2005, 12:12 AM
QUOTE(whoa182 @ Mar 24 2005, 10:04 PM)
Within 2 years new types of batteries based on Nanotechnology will be mass produced that could even run a tank

also charge up within 6 minutes
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That's the target battery for EV(electric vehicle). whoa182, could you please tell the link?
whoa182
Mar 29 2005, 12:18 AM
from 20lb to 8 ounces and it produces the same amount of energy
http://washingtontimes.com/business/200502...13142-9504r.htm The immediate aim is to use nanotechnology — science on the tiniest scale — to replace cumbersome military batteries and eventually power everything "from cell phones up to systems that run a tank,"
EDIT
I'll find the other battery in a bit, we were talking about it on the xprize.org site.. try google it
poleshift
Mar 29 2005, 05:52 PM
Thanks whoa182.
Deception
Mar 29 2005, 06:34 PM
well i saw on the news the other day about an America in North Carolina which figured out a way to use vegtiable oil to replace gas. It would cut emissions in half and it takes no major reconstruction of the gas engine to run it. Just about 200 American dollars and you got a fuel that cost 26 American cents, with low emissions, getting 30-40 miles to the gallon, and not having to buy an expensive new car.
And do you know were the vegitable oil comes from? The FAST FOOD places. In America a fast food resturant must clean out it's fryers every week.
Theres only one downfall. What ever was cooked in the vegitable oil. Is what the emissions will smell like.
Adramaleck
Mar 31 2005, 09:28 PM
Lol...
Hey, we're havin french fries for dinner?
Naw, James is home.
Are there any specific keywords I should search for? I would love to make this mod for my car.
et's daddy
Apr 1 2005, 02:08 AM
Adramaleck
Apr 1 2005, 07:53 AM
QUOTE(et's daddy @ Mar 31 2005, 10:08 PM)
it's called bio-diesel
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That doesn't fit Deception's description though, he said it costs about 25 american cents a gallon, whereas bio-deisal costs more than regular gas.
I am me
Apr 4 2005, 04:07 PM
QUOTE(Erikl @ Mar 27 2005, 06:49 AM)
I hate to be the devil's advocate here, but technically it won't solve anything.... you see, in order to produce hydrogen, there will be a need for power.
Now where will we get the power to do that? fuel. What kind of fuel?..... you get my draft, right?
Hydrogen is merely a mean to store energy. But in order to produce that energy in first place, a new non-polluting energy source should be found.
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solar cells do this quite well. it is what honda uses in its refueling stations for its fuel cell cars.
Feenix Fire
Apr 4 2005, 04:13 PM
QUOTE(Redneck @ Mar 24 2005, 01:45 PM)
It will be great if they can make this work - less pollution and reduced dependence on oil in unstable regions. It will be well worth investing in infrastructure to support hydrogen powered cars, if they prove economical.
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And save us all a butt load on gas money
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