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Adramaleck
There have been many theories about the nazca lines, the two prominent ones about their alignment with the constilations, the other about the lines pointing to some sort of water - a valuble resource in their desert climate. Both theories are discredited, because no more than 30% of the lines point to either of the two either water or constilations or equinoxes. And honestly with that many lines, chances are at least some of them will point to something. The most recent theory is that the lines were used in rituals - the figures are their creator spirits, prayed to for fertility, and other things gods were prayed to for. The lines however, when followed to the south into Cahuachi, many of them point to pyramids. In Cahuachi there are as many as 40 unexcivated pyramids, and about six have been excivated thus far. This place was the Nazcan Mecca if you will. Nazcans made pilgramiges here.

What is your take on this?
Was all this a product of a broken down religion, or something more... complex?
Could extraterrestrials have been their gods?
marduk
The modern indigenous indians in that area have a very old tradition.
They walk along a line depicting their god and continue to walk until exhausted and in a meditative state.
The lines they walk on thesedays are much smaller than the famous nazca variety.
But occaisonally they walk along the nazca lines too. Though they regard those as walks for the adept only.
The only mystery about the nazca lines has been why they are a mystery.

Maria Reiche was a german mathematician. She studied the lines from the 1940's to her death in 1998. She lived nearby, walked and photographed the lines, drew maps, developed theories, and drew the attention of the world to Nazca.

Maria Reiche developed the theory that the ancient Peruvians drew the lines to please the gods and secure their good will. She called the desert an astronomical calendar to remind the gods that the desert was dry and needed water; that crops needed blessings; that the seas needed fish

Erich von daniken did more to draw attention to the enigma of the lines than any other person. Though he of course pretended that they were a spaceport and only actually visited the area on a couple of day trips

I now fully expect to get shouted at by a load of imbeciles that would rather believe erich's version than a woman who spent almost 60 years studying them

Go for it
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Conspiracy
must have took quite awhile to make them.
Neo2005
I donlt know what to think on this subject.
Either way i would like this mystery to stay unanswered becuase it might ruin the magic that is the Nazca Lines
Adramaleck
QUOTE(marduk @ Mar 27 2005, 06:24 AM)
The modern indigenous indians in that area have a very old tradition.
They walk along a line depicting their god and continue to walk until exhausted and in a meditative state.
The lines they walk on thesedays are much smaller than the famous nazca variety.
But occaisonally they walk along the nazca lines too. Though they regard those as walks for the adept only.
The only mystery about the nazca lines has been why they are a mystery.

Maria Reiche was a german mathematician. She studied the lines from the 1940's to her death in 1998. She lived nearby, walked and photographed the lines, drew maps, developed theories, and drew the attention of the world to Nazca.

Maria Reiche developed the theory that the ancient Peruvians drew the lines to please the gods and secure their good will. She called the desert an astronomical calendar to remind the gods that the desert was dry and needed water; that crops needed blessings; that the seas needed fish

Erich von daniken did more to draw attention to the enigma of the lines than any other person. Though he of course pretended that they were a spaceport and only actually visited the area on a couple of day trips

I now fully expect to get shouted at by a load of imbeciles that would rather believe erich's version than a woman who spent almost 60 years studying them

Go for it
hehehe  w00t.gif
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I'm aware of and admire Maria's work, but her theory, as I said, was discredited - she beleived the lines to correspond with constillations, when in reality only 30% did, same with the water theory. I'm not saying they're a map to the skies, or that theyre an intergallactic spaceport.

What I'm really interested in are the pyramids of Caucachi, and why almost nothing is known about them.
STIX
Thats a very interesting theory, im amazed that there are so many unexcavated ruins and unexplored places in the world, there is so much we can learn from our past!!
The Roswell Man
also, what possibility the indians had 'flying machines' to admire thier drawings to make sure it pleased thier gods? huh.gif
AncientOne
There's a new book out, Listen to the Wind, that is supposed to be a fiction but that explains the origin of pyramids. www.timothynichols.com They don't claim to know, but the story generally makes sense.
Essan
There's a transcript here of the BBC2 Horizon programme about Cahuachi, first broadcast Jan 2000

And pictures of the pyramids here

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marduk
QUOTE(AncientOne @ Mar 30 2005, 02:50 PM)
There's a new book out, Listen to the Wind, that is supposed to be a fiction but that explains the origin of pyramids.  www.timothynichols.com They don't claim to know, but the story generally makes sense.
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But it IS a work of fiction.
It says so on the cover
Theres hundreds of books out with conflicting ideas on the origin of pyramids
They can't all be right
At least not in one dimension at a time
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Adramaleck
QUOTE(marduk @ Mar 30 2005, 05:03 PM)
QUOTE(AncientOne @ Mar 30 2005, 02:50 PM)
There's a new book out, Listen to the Wind, that is supposed to be a fiction but that explains the origin of pyramids.  www.timothynichols.com They don't claim to know, but the story generally makes sense.
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But it IS a work of fiction.
It says so on the cover
Theres hundreds of books out with conflicting ideas on the origin of pyramids
They can't all be right
At least not in one dimension at a time
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Although it may not be true, it is equally possilbe that it is. Writing a true book under the guise of fiction is a tool some writers use as not to upset the masses. A recent example of this is the divinci code. There are enough emperical sources to call this book nonfiction, or religious, but the guise of fiction was decided upon.
marduk
QUOTE(Adramaleck @ Mar 31 2005, 02:12 AM)
QUOTE(marduk @ Mar 30 2005, 05:03 PM)
QUOTE(AncientOne @ Mar 30 2005, 02:50 PM)
There's a new book out, Listen to the Wind, that is supposed to be a fiction but that explains the origin of pyramids.  www.timothynichols.com They don't claim to know, but the story generally makes sense.
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But it IS a work of fiction.
It says so on the cover
Theres hundreds of books out with conflicting ideas on the origin of pyramids
They can't all be right
At least not in one dimension at a time
w00t.gif
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Although it may not be true, it is equally possilbe that it is. Writing a true book under the guise of fiction is a tool some writers use as not to upset the masses. A recent example of this is the divinci code. There are enough emperical sources to call this book nonfiction, or religious, but the guise of fiction was decided upon.
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It isn't a tool that this Fiction writer uses. He isn't nor has he ever claimed that he writes anything but a good story.
And if you think the da vinci code was written with the intention of not upsetting the masses (of clergy) then I think you should go read it
Sorry but thats just the way it is in this case
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Adramaleck
Yes, but if it was written as nonfiction, the guy probably would have been lynched. You're arguement is invalid as it has no proof, you're playing the three year old game 'no it isnt' 'yes it is' 'no it isnt'
marduk
QUOTE(Adramaleck @ Mar 31 2005, 02:57 AM)
Yes, but if it was written as nonfiction, the guy probably would have been lynched.  You're arguement is invalid as it has no proof, you're playing the three year old game 'no it isnt' 'yes it is' 'no it isnt'
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Lol I'm just saying no it isn't here adralameck, you're the one claiming yes it is. At least I agree with the author.
You'd think he'd know right
Or have you developed some sort of advanced Psychic power now that tells you things even the books writer/publisher/distributor/reading public doesn't know.
Thats impressive
Tell me what I'm thinking as i write this
Bet you can
I believe you thumbsup.gif

btw heres an excerpt from the book so you can actually state that you know of what you speak in future
"In the obscure past, a brave young man sets out to find the authentic ancient inscriptions, expecting to prove that his people have long practiced the Truth. He hopes to silence the scoffers with his findings.

Mibutu launches into the unknown, confronting perils of savage animals, heartless wilderness, and cruel self-doubt. He encounters adventure and challenge beyond imagination.

Witness the deeds of true believers, manipulators, opportunists, blind followers, and simple folk who want nothing more than to be allowed to live in peace and be left alone.

Government, organized religion, and the human spirit collide in this fast-paced adventure. The story hasn't ended..."

Sounds very factual to me you must be right no.gif thumbsup.gif


Essan
QUOTE(Adramaleck @ Mar 31 2005, 01:57 AM)
Yes, but if it was written as nonfiction, the guy probably would have been lynched. 
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Indeed he would have. By the authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail - the 'non-fiction' book upon which Brown based the Da Vinci Code tongue.gif
Adramaleck
QUOTE(Essan @ Mar 31 2005, 09:15 AM)
Indeed he would have.  By the authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail - the 'non-fiction' book upon which Brown based the Da Vinci Code  tongue.gif
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Exactly.
marduk
Essan was being Sarcastic,
did you miss that.
Holy Blood and Holy Grail was speculation, since then evidence has come to light that proves most of its conclusions were fallacious
Adramaleck
Oh, I was confused because it was written as non-fiction.
marduk
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That Essan can be very confusing
when he tries at it
The Roswell Man
any recent news on nazca at all? huh.gif hmm.gif
aquatus1
Nope. Pretty much the same it's been for the last couple of millenia. More tourists, s'about it.
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