I don't know what to say. This video clip is a GENUINE clip from Apollo 12 on the moon - it's on the Official NASA website. Here's the link: http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a12/a12v.1155619.ram

At the 2:11 mark, you will see a BARE ARM flash up to the left side of the screen.


I KID YOU NOT!!!!

There are other very interesting objects that are in the video. Watch from around the 2:05 mark and all hell breaks loose!!!!!!

Unable to locate server.

I cant see the arm.

I've uploaded the part of the clip that shows the arm - look in the Audio/ Video section when they post it. It will be under turbonium. It's HILARIOUS! Then watch the whole clip at the link.

Tips: 1.you'll need to wait a while on the NASA link before it starts.

2. stop the stream at 2:10 and edge it frame by frame to 2:11 - you will see a
BARE ARM swing up to the left on the screen.

i havent seen the video as my firewall came up

but is it possible it is a video in a video ?

the guy shot film of the NASA film and his arm got in it ?

just a thought

Try this link http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/...12/a12main.html

Then go to Video and Movie Clips, TV Troubles Section, then open the very first clip down.
At 2:10, edge the video frame by frame up and almost over the 2:11 mark to see the arm.

No, there in no chance of that when you see the whole clip - this camera was shooting the LEM, moon surface, etc. See the matching dialog at the same NASA link.

i went to that link and clicked on videos and nothing happened

am i screwing it up ?

sorry but id like to see this video

It doesnt look like an arm to me,unless the hand has been chopped off.
The whole video is full of jumpy images that are hard to make out,so I cant find this that amazing im afraid,it could be anything.

ok 1st it was my fault
i had several windows open and the video page changed one of my windows it didnt pop up

2nd saw the video and had to watch it a few times

then it hit me

to me it looks like a bare arm moving a steel rod

a prop maybe ?

how sure are we this is the lunar surface ? aside from the fact that it looks like it
id say a high school A/V group could duplicate this

Can you get in any other formats other than .ram (RealPlayer)?
I've only got WMP and Quicktime.

sorry mine opened in real player

and i thought i saw the lines of the fingers grasping that object at the top of the arm

Yeah,it kinda looks like the top of someones shoulder but isnt attached to a body,or a stumpy arm with a pole sticking out? I think the fingers effect is just the camera shaking.

wierd.

Can;'t download it

Neo - you need to get streaming video capture software. I downloaded a shareware copy of Mr. Captor to download it. Do a google search for 'streaming video capture' and you should get something. Also, you might need to turn off your video accelerator in Control Panel to avoid a black screen capture

I uploaded a video clip and freeze frames from the video hours ago but they still haven't put them in the Multimedia section........

You'll need to give Saruman some time, turbonium, he's over in Scotland and right now its past midnight. The guy does need a little sleep, you know?

Check back tomorrow, also send an IM to him so he'll know that you have something you need tending too ASAP.

MM

Thanks, MM. I'm a little impatient, I guess. Thanks for the IM tip.

Here they are - links to some frames from the official NASA video from Apollo 12 (TV Troubles section - first clip down on this link - http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/...12/video12.html

Below are the pictures Click to link.

Bare Arm on Moon - notice the defined elbow and knuckles
Chairs on the Moon - it appears someone is sitting in the upper chair
Arm Rising Up
Arm Up More
Computer Monitor on Moon
People Behind Black Curtain
Extra People on Moon - on this last picture notice the guy in blue-green longsleeve shirt with his hands pointing up, elbows resting on a surface top, as if to say "oh, man, what's he doing?" to a guy on his left (our right) in a white shirt

ok the arm is clear as day-was that clip supposed to be shot on the moon? i have yet to see the other anomalies but if they are as obvious as the arm then this is a big find!

Thanks, Sun. I hope it is a big find.
The arm is the most obvious anomaly - follow the link I put up to the actual NASA website and you can see the whole movement of the arm! Shot on the Moon?? Just as much as this bouncy guy is real!

poeple behind curtain
^heres the original image turbo isolated from the nasa video-included is a quick illustration showing what i saw in that image(i believe to be at 2m7-8s of the clip?please correct me if i am off a bit turbo)-my writing may be hard to read but it says-------rope?--both turning back --man closer--woman----is it just me?
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Here's two more pics, Sun. It looks like the man is turning to his left and working on something - pic 2 is best. His left arm is under his right arm for support.

Man turning
Man turning 2

By the way, do you see the guy with his elbows on some sort of surface and hands up and wide apart? It's the last pic from the other posting.

clear as day- its as if the camera falls off a mount -the arm doesnt appear to be moving but holding a rope and the camera is what is being jostled around-clearly some type of curtain is lifted as the camera falls and the images appear to have been caught in the scramble to fix the problem--funny thing is they dont even know they are hosting this stuff--ha it should al be saved -from the web page to the videos themselves -because im sure itll be removed as soon as they are aware its there

Sun, here's another pic Man in Tie

I couldn't figure it out at first, but it looks like a man in a shirt & tie facing forward. Put this pic beside the one of the chairs - it looks like he is standing up in front of the chair. Those also look like black cubicle dividers with white post rails along the top of them.

The video clip and pics of the arm are now in the Audio/Video section.
Thanks again, SaRuMan!

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it looks like the same two people from the "people behind the black curtain" image caught just as they were scrambling to pull the curtain down--
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE CURTAIN! LOOK AWAY-YOU SAW NOTHING (flips switch...turns dial...scrambles to fix curtain...pause...elevator music...) here we are back at the moon! bleep...bleep... "GREAT" find turbo!



we're .....off to see the wizard...the wonderful wizard of OZ because...because...because...because........

Thanks, Sun. That's freakin' Hilarious!!! Move right along, everyone - nothing to see here!!

Guess you guys have a more vivid imagination than me. Film quality is far too poor for me to see any of the stuff you lot claim to see.......

the best way to view it is to go to nasa own site here-
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/...12/video12.html
here is a sample of the page with the AMAZING link in red-you have to go down to "tv trouble" then click on the link marked "3minutes33seconds" next to the link labeled 115:56:19 ----its in a real player format and is quick to download -watch the video and the "magic" occurs precisely at 2min 4-5sec in when the camera seems to be knocked from its stand and in the struggle to correct the problem a curtain can be seen accidentally being raised precisely at 2min7-8sec followed by the arm at 2min10-11sec-so the time to pay close attention to is in between 2min4sec and 2min12sec -its simply amazing and clear as day the image captures that turbo has links to are directly from these brief moments and are incredible-"the arm","the people behind the black curtain" and the"extra people on the moon" images are all within this window and when observed at regular speed its amazing how clear the situation is--amazing!-------
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Here's a good pic - you can even see the rims of someone's glasses!

more people; middle profile with glasses

The rims of someones glasses????,Man with tie,people behind curtains, Are you guys pulling our legs as I just see blurry shapes,that could resemble anything!?

I have Mr Capture and the NASA footage. Can you please tell me exactly what to do now?

I looked at this clip when it was first posted and saw absolutley nothing of interest.

One of us is blind or has a very over active imagination because I still don't see anything.

I can't quite work out what you're implying here - are you suggesting this is a video of a faked moon landing with a catalogue of glaring errors that NASA has decided to make available on its own site ???

NASA has made MANY errors in the past - what makes you think they are infallible ?

Look at the stills I captured from the video, look at the clip I added to the Misc. Section of the Video section. If that's not a nice, fleshy arm to you, then I would love to hear what else it could be.
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The thing is - they ALL are flesh toned - even if you try and think of some other explanation - how does it mesh with what we see here ?

Make sure you turn off the video acellerator in Control Panel if it replays a black screen for pictures or movies. Help file should tell you all else you need - post back if not..

Yeah, I don't think this is anything worth loseing sleep over.

I don't think they're infallible - I don't think they're retarded either.

Like others here have said, they didn't see anything as the video played - just went by as a blur. NASA could have easily thought the same thing.
These are the people who thought they could take a picture of John Glenn on Earth in a simulator, then cut, paste & reverse it - and claim it as a genuine Gemini spacewalk thinking nobody would ever know better!!

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What did Apollo 12 bring to the Moon here??

I know - NASA could describe it like this:

NASA DESCRIPTION : WHAT WE SEE HERE IS THE U.R.M. (for Unlimited Range of Movement). IT IS A FLESH COLORED GRASPING DEVICE WITH KNUCKLES AT TOP, ELBOW AT BOTTOM. THE ASTRONAUTS HAVE PROGRAMMED IT TO PERFORM A VARIED ARRAY OF TASKS THAT THEY WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO DO IN THEIR BULKY SPACESUITS.

(DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU?)

turbo i have to admit that i am unable to see everything you are describing-the man with tie,the monitor and the glasses are eluding me maybe you could use an illustration? but one thing is certain-the arm and the people behind the curtain are clearly visible-the best way to view it is to drag the real vid cursor back to the 2min mark after it reaches the 2min14sec mark and observe this loop repititiously--the astronaut actually comments that he is going to "move the tv camera" and as he removes it from its base he drops it raising a blind of some sort that appears to be hiding people beneath the lander and as he readjusts it he catches the arm of someone holding a rope or bar of some type-he tries to play off by talking about the way you "hop" when you run then actually laughs at his blunder unaware of the images that were captured--there is absolutely "NO DOUBT" as to what was captured-i mean the image with the man reaching to pull down the curtain is so clear you can make out the color of his shirt! as well as the flesh tone in the arm-----i am positively certain as to the content of those few seconds--its amazing!!!!!!!!!!!

Watch this amazing device Apollo 12 brought to the Moon!!! The U.R.M.!!

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MR. BEAN GOES TO THE MOON!

You'll be rolling in the aisles with laughter as our hapless hero Mr. Bean (playing himself) goes on a wacky adventure you'll never forget! After unwittingly stumbling across a secret Moon movie set, our lovable "ne'er do well" gets mistaken for the lead actor. Dressed up in Spacesuit garb, watch the hijinks as he trips over the movie camera and flips up a blind that exposes the whole Production Staff!!

We give it a BIG BIG two thumbs up!!!!

Why do I not only.. Not see this "arm" but am not surprized that people are making out anything that fist comes to mind out of huge blurry pictures to create a conspiracy theory....

HAHAHA!! Nope! I saw NO ARM! It's a ...a......well, it's not an ARM! It's a ......um...

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the arm looks like a piece of equipment or something

It looks like neither. It looks too misshapen to be an arm and I just don't know what equipment it could be.
If it was an arm holding something like a piece of rope then wouldn't I also see a fist? Now aren't fists usually bigger than their wists? I know mine are. I suppose it could have grabbed it in a certain way to that the persons fist would be the same size as their wist and then end sharply, but I doubt it.
All you seem to have is a load of blury frames. Would it be possible to enhance one of the frames to see it a bit clearer? I can see how you can see a bare arm in the footage if not looking at it closely but it appears you've been looking too closely at the other footage.
I'm going to learn how to view the rest of the footage and come back with my opinion. At the moment it doesn't seem promising though.

BAH............all this blurry, indistinct Erik Beckjord inspired speculation is absurd. Want clear, undisputable evidense that we didn't go to the moon?

CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO

I'm loading your link now, Majik; even though it interrupted space oddity at the best bit

I don't get that bit at the end though.....