This is public knowledge (although I doubt many people hear of it). I like having a royal family but this is simply taking the mick, and something needs to be done to curb this sort of thing, we pay for it all... it's in this section because in a way it is a bloody conspiracy, to leech as much as possible from the taxpayer!

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THE QUEEN is one of the richest people in the world. The pro-royal Mail on Sunday did a special investigation into her wealth last year. It argued that previous estimates had badly understated how rich she was. It reckoned her private wealth was £1.15 billion, not counting royal palaces, art collections and the like.

The queen personally owns:

Property worth £61 million, as well as official residences like Balmoral, worth £4 million. She also owns a stud farm near Newbury and a deer forest in the Highlands.
Racehorses worth £3.6 million.
Stamps worth £102 million. Her stamp collection is a bit bigger than most. It is kept in 300 albums and 200 boxes.
Jewels worth £72 million. The most valuable are the 105 Cullinan diamonds, cut from what was the world's biggest diamond.
Furs worth £1 million. The queen has 30 luxury furs in special refrigerated storage units at Buckingham Palace.
Cars worth £7.1 million.
Wine worth £2 million.
She also gets an annual income of £7.3 million from the lands and investments of the Duchy of Lancaster.


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What a rotten family

THE QUEEN is always very careful not to let her real views slip out. But the closest members of her family have not been so guarded.

Prince Philip is well known for his racist views.
In 1986 he told a group of British students in China, "If you stay here much longer you'll all be slitty-eyed." In 1994 he asked a local person from the Cayman Islands, "Aren't most of you descended from pirates?" In 1999, when touring an electronics factory in Edinburgh, he pointed to a fuse box which had wires spilling out of it and said, "It looks as though it was put in by an Indian." Earlier this year on the jubilee world tour in Australia he insulted an aboriginal leader by asking, "Do you still throw spears at each other?"

Princess Margaret, the queen's sister, was also a bigot.
She stormed out of a screening of the anti-Nazi film Schindler's List, describing it as a "tedious film about Jews". When visiting Chicago she told the Irish American mayor that the Irish were "pigs-all pigs". She said she hated "little brown people" from India.

The Queen Mother used to describe black people as "nig-nogs" or "blackamoors".
She opposed all immigration and thought black people were incapable of running countries.


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£1 billion deal

WHEN THE queen first came to the throne 50 years ago she cut a nice deal with then prime minister Winston Churchill. It means she is the only person in the country able to reclaim tax on dividends and interest from investments in British companies. That has netted her around £1 billion.
THE EARL and Countess of Wessex are "retiring" from their business ventures.
They won't be short of money though. They will get £249,000 a year from public funds via the "civil list". And they will still live at their 57-room Surrey mansion which costs the public £250,000 a year to maintain.


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The prince in the tower

PRINCE JOHN was the younger brother of kings Edward VIII and George VI. He was brought up with his brothers in the bosom of the royal household-until he was 12 years old, that is. Then he was packed off to an asylum for the mentally ill.

His "loving family" never visited him. His picture was removed from all family portraits. He died alone in the institution in 1919. His death was not announced. Prince John's crime was to be an epileptic.

The royal family believed that if his illness was widely known they would be thought of as weak. So they cast him off.


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They're all at it

THE REST of the queen's family are just as parasitical and nearly as rich as her. Prince Charles has a personal wealth of around £346 million. The Queen Mother was worth around £53 million when she died recently. Prince Philip is worth £28 million in his own right.

Prince William already has £22 million stashed away and his younger brother, Harry, is even richer, with £25 million in his royal piggy bank.


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She owns seabed

The queen gets massive handouts from public funds. Last year her "official" expenditure, funded by us, was £35 million.. She gets £7.9 million a year directly from public funds on the "civil list". As well as land she owns personally she also owns the "crown estate" through her position as sovereign.

This includes 120,000 hectares of agricultural land and the entire seabed around Britain. The crown estate produced £147.7 million profit last year. The queen's palaces at Balmoral in Scotland and Sandringham in Norfolk are her private property. But as queen she also has at her disposal Buckingham Palace, St James's Palace, Kensington Palace and Windsor Castle.

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The Queen Mother was a racist snob who excelled in extravagant living. After all the grovelling, hypocritical tributes paid to her last week, here are some facts to remember.

The Queen Mother referred to black people as “nig-nogs” or “blackamoors”. She backed white minority rule in Rhodesia. She criticised Lord Mountbatten, viceroy of India, “for giving away the empire” and his wife because “her mother was half-Jewish”.

She opposed immigration, and thought black Africans incapable of running their own countries.

The media call her the “nation's favourite granny”, but she enjoyed luxury beyond most people's wildest dreams. The Queen Mother squandered millions on vintage champagne, racehorses and parties. She had five homes, including a Scottish castle with 25,000 acres worth £20 million.

The castle cost £500,000 a year to run. She refused to give it up even though she only stayed there for six weeks a year. A small army of 80 servants was employed to look after her. The Queen Mother dined out at the poshest restaurants, like Claridge's and the Ritz. She liked to have “drinky-poos” before her lavish lunches.

Her fortune was estimated at £60 million. Even so, she couldn't manage on the £643,000 she creamed off us from the civil list every year. Luckily for her, the queen regularly chucked her a million quid or two. Prince Charles had to cough up another £80,000 a year to pay her long-suffering servants.

A royal aide denied she was mean, saying, “She is simply out of touch with the costs of modern life and believes that what she pays is a living wage.” When officials pointed out that she had amassed a £4 million overdraft, she refused to economise or sell any of her huge jewellery collection. This included a necklace once owned by Marie Antoinette.

In her will she left some money to “her darlings”, not relatives but race horses. The Queen Mother was hailed as the first commoner to marry into the royal family. In fact, she was the daughter of the Earl of Strathmore, and her full name was Lady Elizabeth Angela Marguerite Bowes-Lyon. Hers was a typically caring aristocratic family.

Two of Elizabeth's nieces were born disabled and were secretly locked away in a mental institution for the rest of their lives. The public was told they were dead. She married Prince Albert, who was second in line to the throne. One biographer, Michael Thornton, writes: “Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was determined to marry into the royal family so, after his third proposal, she settled for the runt of the litter.”

When Edward VIII abdicated in 1936 to marry Wallis Simpson, Albert became king and Elizabeth queen. The second world war was, the media say, the Queen Mother's greatest hour as she stuck by the people of London during the Blitz. But the idea that she shared the wartime privations of ordinary people is a complete myth.

The king and queen visited Buckingham Palace during the day, but slept every night in Windsor Castle. East Enders booed, jeered and pelted the Queen Mother with rubbish on her first tour of east London. She believed her pampered appearance would “raise morale”. It just showed how she still lived the high life while everyone else endured rationing.

For some 50 years the Queen Mother guarded royal documents in vaults at Windsor Castle that detailed the abdicated king's relations with Hitler and the Nazis. They included captured German documents describing the Windsors' meeting with Hitler in 1937 and plans to restore the Duke of Windsor to the throne if the Nazis won the war. Some of these documents remain hidden from the public.

Before the war began the Queen Mother was a supporter of making concessions to Hitler and the Nazis.

The Queen Mother was vicious to anyone she thought undermined the royal family. Her treatment of the royal nanny Marion Crawford was described by one writer as “symptomatic of the ruthless and brutal cold-heartedness of that family and the way they treat the victims they leave in their wake who have generally done them great service”.

She did not step willingly aside for her daughter to become queen. The then prime minister, Winston Churchill, had to bribe her to get her out of Buckingham Palace.

The media praise her “devotion to duty”, but she was far more devoted to drinking and betting. The establishment is uneasy about what the response to the Queen Mother's death will be. So they should be. For 100 years we paid to keep her in the lap of luxury.

Yeah I saw this on a documentary I think on BBC about the spongers personal wealth. It is disgusting, absoloutely disgusting. I have no respect and no loyalty towards them whatsoever. The sooner they are kicked out into the streets the better.

I love being assiociated with the royal family don;t you?
JK

Dang... thats just insane!

Shows you what centuries of inbreeding will do!!!

I have always personally thought anarchy is better than monarchy, but this really says something

You think that's bad. How much do you think the Church of England has? And as for the Roman Catholic Church......

You should alos bear in mind that a lot of those claims are matters of interpretation.

for example



So the Queen Mother wanted to resolve matters peacefully without the deaths of millions of people and destruction that a major war would cause? Remember too that she would have been unaware at the time of the true evil nature of Nazism. Would you criticise the current Queen too if it was revealed that she opposed the war in Iraq?

There is more than one side to every story

(Not that I'm a Monarchist or anything. Just like seeing fair play )

I've always hated the monarchy. People frequently argue that she brings millions into the country through tourism...

...and l,ook how much she takes out

I wonder how much she donated to the tsunami fund?

Viva Le Republic!

So what (if anything) do we actually need them for? To boost our morale as they spend our money on things they don't need?

[wow , now i hate the royal famil , they dont do anything, they dont ahve any real power , other than 'off with there heads' , royals are weird

wow, I'm not British, but I am certainly no fan of the royal family.

If all this is public knowledge, i wonder what Camilla knows thats damning enough for them to allow her to become queen, scoffing at years of tradition?

It sound an awful lot like the majority of this arguments are simply that the royal family is obscenely rich.

these royals sound alot like Santa Anna. He was elected a president, declared himself dictator, lost a war with texas, lost over 1/2 a million square miles of land to the United States, When the united states marched into Mexico city he feld Mexico for a couple years, THEN came back and declared himself dictator AGAIN, We overthrew him, and he died in poverty 1874.

At one point is this timeline he was the richest man in the western Hemishpere, and he switch sides 3 different times.

So why don't yall kick them royals out and see how long they make it on the streets of say London.

well of course A!? the royal family are among the illumiatti that rule the world-there is a profound difference between being rich and being "obscenely" rich,as you put it,without realizing the impact of your own statement-the difference lies in the respect of your fellow man or brother-being rich means that you do have to worry about need and a majority of your wants are provided for-being "obscenely" rich means that you are accumlating so much wealth that you would deprive a brother on mother earth of,not just his wants but,his needs for the sole purpose of a disrespectful "want" of a bigoted snob not worthy of fellowship-i can assure you that technology and mother earth together could offer every man on earth the luxury of not needing but the problem lies with the minority who do not "want" this to be-know that you serve a purpose to those that wish to oppress his brother man because without the "majority" of man deciding that the oppression of some is worth the current comfortable niche that you find your self in there could be no oppression-its a fine balancing act the elite use to justify their decadence-keeping exactly half of the masses comfortable while downtrodding the rest but it is not necessary nor is it right and the only way there is going to be a change is when the respect of every individual is considered by all and it has to start somewhere by those that do not need or it will never come to pass-i for one am one of those who does not need yet i refuse ignore the plight of my brothers who are in need-its a funny thing when you think about it-the 40% percent of us who are not "obscenely" rich,yet without need, allow it to continue when our lives are not the ones that would be affected by supplying their needs-so in conclusion the "real" solution lies in waking up our fellow man to the few that oppress many of "our" brothers and sisters----- ok where did all this rambling come from? i think ive said enough here

The arguement is that they are obsceneley rich, and taxpayers money keeps them richer.

Put it this way; Her castle costs 500,000 a year to maintain; she used it six weeks a year yet refused to give it up in light of the costs.

If she was faced with paying for it herself, t'would be a whole new matter.

And yet, if the royals decided to live a frugal existance...

What would the British consider respectful, yet cheap for a royal family? If the main problem here is that they are richer than everyone else, what would the solution be? I have sincere doubts that most of the population would be willing to have their Royals be shown on global television closing down palaces and living in a three bedroom down in Soho.

couldn't agree more, theyre just a waste o' cash, and sick bastards too

I used to live there!!

I had a conversation with a buddy of mine about this, I personally think that all they are now are a figurehead. I mean, what they really do? not much! Not like the days of old where a king would command his armies and defend his shores. What is their purpose now?

That's BS mate, sorry. There is a complete difference between "frugal" and living to an excess that is positively beyond all need. The reason we complain is because UK taxes are ridiculous as it is, and to have to fork out so much to keep their lifestyle at this level, without them contributing barely anything, and demanding more each year, is simply a stab in the heart.

If the monarchy had a real use nowadays then maybe, MAYBE it would be justified. But they haven't, and boosting morale is no good if people resent you now is it? This isn't the 17'00s any more... kings and queens don't rule the world and make the laws today, and they don't command the fear that the royalty of old did with their command over life and death.

They are a redundant figurehead that costs the rich and poor (especially the poor) alike for the privelage of merely saying "we have a queen" at a time when education and medical funding is low, and we have a country in serious need of some serious cash spent in the right places.

Wasn't there some story on the news about an Aussie being the rightful king of England. I saw the documentry and i reckon it's true.
Even if he isn't the real king, he'll probably make a better replacement

The Real King?

He said he won't claim it but maybe one day one of his children will...

I never liked those posh snobs.

You wonder how they can live with the knowledge that they live with so much weatlh, and some have nothing, not even a family or house.

Then again, they're probably so high on buying another country they won't even THINK of that!

quoting richdog:" For some 50 years the Queen Mother guarded royal documents in vaults at Windsor Castle that detailed the abdicated king's relations with Hitler and the Nazis. They included captured German documents describing the Windsors' meeting with Hitler in 1937 and plans to restore the Duke of Windsor to the throne if the Nazis won the war. Some of these documents remain hidden from the public.

Before the war began the Queen Mother was a supporter of making concessions to Hitler and the Nazis. "



This is the single-most important aspect. Money was funneled into Nazi Germanys war machine from the Bank of England by Montague Norman-friend of the Windsor family. Also from Union Banking Corporation in AmeriKa run by our Presidents grandfather Prescott Bush and b anking partner Averell Harriman...a so called "statesman"...these kind of people are the forces behind some of the worlds worst attrocities this past century. Millions of lives wiped from the face of the earth...all pre-meditated. Their power corrupts their minds. The present Amerikan ambassador to England , Will Farrish, had a father, Will STamps Farrish, who made money with the Nazis before and during the WW2 under the auspice of Rockefeller Standard Oil. He was caught and fined. Farrish family and Bush family are REAL tight and the Queen and Farrish are good freinds sharing enthusiasm for purebreed racehorses.
In my opinion these forces were behind Germanys war machine and these same forces are behind 9-11, they reap all the benefits, not muslims. They are using Muslims as a scapegoat to carry out thier new agenda which doesn't differ much from Nazi Germany...all those satellites gathering info. in space, the Echelon UK-USA relationship...they have been creating this perfect technological war machine to be used against us, the people. Not to stop terrorism...these people are the terrorists! Think of the Reichstaag Fire.

What are you saying here aquatus? You support the Royals existence? You think Britain needs expensive pedigreed show dogs such as the likes of these Windsors?PaLeeeze! Can you say corporate Socialism...but the Windsors would be the first to decry social programs for the common man...cheap bastards they are...I mean the Queen wouldn't even pay her cleaning lady a decent wage.
Anyone with some common sense can see that we on this post aren't critisizing them for being rich but are appalled at the filth that lies beneath the surface.

Most kingdoms are seized by force and pilage, what can you really expect from the descendents??

i have never liked the royals

Anyway, aren't the Royal Family shape-shifting reptilians or summat? How'd you expect them to behave?

And I'd sooner pay a few pounds a year out of my taxes to maintain Britain's history and heritage than allow politicans final and complete control of the country. At least, in theory, the Monarch can still say no to our constitutionally elected dictator. And we can all live in the hope that one day they will

Quit your belly-aching and abolish the monarchy and spend your
taxes where there needed the most!!!!!

The argument is that her castle, which she used for not even a tenth of a year, costs more to run than many will earn in a lifetime, and she will NOT EVEN PAY FOR IT.

They have done nothing to have their wealth. if the queen was any sort of person she'd sell off her crowns and castles and donate the money to those who really need it,

Strange how I've never heard of a member of the Royal family being assassinated. Has this ever happened? Maybe we should blame gun control.
So people get all this because of their bloodline, providing they haven't got an embarrassing illness?
God save the Queen, indeed.