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Darkwind

Mar 28 2005, 03:17 AM

My youngest comes to visit. After a nice visit I get out my new wand that I have just finished to give him. Then he drops the bomb.

Son: "Uh Dad I have decided to become a christian.":huh:

Darkwind outside: "Oh, well are you sure that is your Path."
(Darkwind inside: AHHH, Goddess where have I failed. Where did I go wrong!)

Son: "Ya, Dad it is my choice."

Darkwind outside: "Well, your Path is your Path. Thats ok, it is your life. I have aways said the choice is yours."
(Darkwind inside: Why did I say that? I know it is the right way raise children, but christian? I want to throw myself on my sword.)

Son: "Thanks Dad, I knew you would be ok with it." (Gives me a hug)

Darkwind outside: (looks at the wand) "I'll keep it for you. Love ya."

Son: "Right, Dad. I'll see ya later."

Darkwind inside: (It's the new girlfriend, I knew she was trouble. Now I know how christians feel when their kids become Pagans. I am going to bury that bible in the back yard.)

jessicalawes11

Mar 28 2005, 12:01 PM

May I ask what religion you are? Just a wondering thought...

And if he wants to be Christian, I'd let him! It is his choice, even if you don't agree with it!

SilverCougar

Mar 28 2005, 12:06 PM

I am so sorry, Darkwind... Maybe it's a faze... maybe it's a cry for attention... maybe you should sit down with him and discuss this...

*hugs Darkwind* Aahh... if our paths had crossed earlier in life....

Q-La

Mar 28 2005, 12:30 PM

No offence but Darwind I think you have won. You have love and tolerance over religion and you have won, quite beautifully for your family.

Hoagy

Mar 28 2005, 01:49 PM

I think you did the right thing, Dark Wind, if only more people could think that way

Essan

Mar 28 2005, 01:53 PM

Sounds like typical Teenagers. He'll be a Communist next week

ANd the week after that listening to Frank Sinatra albums....

:O:O

Essan

Mar 28 2005, 02:02 PM

When he becomes a Veggie.......then you chuck hime out

zandore

Mar 28 2005, 02:45 PM

I agree with SC, It is just a phase he is going through and will snap out of it. You just got to have patience.

PS....Good luck.

The Raven

Mar 28 2005, 07:58 PM

QUOTE(Darkwind @ Mar 27 2005, 10:17 PM)

My youngest comes to visit. After a nice visit I get out my new wand that I have just finished to give him. Then he drops the bomb.

Son: "Uh Dad I have decided to become a christian.":huh:

Darkwind outside: "Oh, well are you sure that is your Path."
(Darkwind inside: AHHH, Goddess where have I failed. Where did I go wrong!)

Son: "Ya, Dad it is my choice."

Darkwind outside: "Well, your Path is your Path. Thats ok, it is your life. I have aways said the choice is yours."
(Darkwind inside: Why did I say that? I know it is the right way raise children, but christian? I want to throw myself on my sword.)

Son: "Thanks Dad, I knew you would be ok with it." (Gives me a hug)

Darkwind outside: (looks at the wand) "I'll keep it for you. Love ya."

Son: "Right, Dad. I'll see ya later."

Darkwind inside: (It's the new girlfriend, I knew she was trouble. Now I know how christians feel when their kids become Pagans. I am going to bury that bible in the back yard.)

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You sound like a wonderful father, and you also sound like a wise man.

I always knew you would be tolerant enough to do something like this. Children should be raised neutrally, not because of whatever religion you will be a part of, but because of the values you can learn and the wisdom you can gain by knowledge and studying instead of being born, and being forced to go to church. Maybe people perfer the Christian way of life even after growing up pagan, but that is their choice. The most important thing is to make sure they are allowed to follow their choice, and not try and bias it in any way. Did you raise your son teaching him the spiritual beliefs that you hold?

EDIT: Obviously you did if you gave him a wand. Care to elaborate, I find this facinating. What does a wand do?

Darkwind

Mar 28 2005, 09:01 PM

QUOTE(The Raven @ Mar 28 2005, 07:58 PM)

QUOTE(Darkwind @ Mar 27 2005, 10:17 PM)

My youngest comes to visit. After a nice visit I get out my new wand that I have just finished to give him. Then he drops the bomb.

Son: "Uh Dad I have decided to become a christian.":huh:

Darkwind outside: "Oh, well are you sure that is your Path."
(Darkwind inside: AHHH, Goddess where have I failed. Where did I go wrong!)

Son: "Ya, Dad it is my choice."

Darkwind outside: "Well, your Path is your Path. Thats ok, it is your life. I have aways said the choice is yours."
(Darkwind inside: Why did I say that? I know it is the right way raise children, but christian? I want to throw myself on my sword.)

Son: "Thanks Dad, I knew you would be ok with it." (Gives me a hug)

Darkwind outside: (looks at the wand) "I'll keep it for you. Love ya."

Son: "Right, Dad. I'll see ya later."

Darkwind inside: (It's the new girlfriend, I knew she was trouble. Now I know how christians feel when their kids become Pagans. I am going to bury that bible in the back yard.)

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You sound like a wonderful father, and you also sound like a wise man.

I always knew you would be tolerant enough to do something like this. Children should be raised neutrally, not because of whatever religion you will be a part of, but because of the values you can learn and the wisdom you can gain by knowledge and studying instead of being born, and being forced to go to church. Maybe people perfer the Christian way of life even after growing up pagan, but that is their choice. The most important thing is to make sure they are allowed to follow their choice, and not try and bias it in any way. Did you raise your son teaching him the spiritual beliefs that you hold?

EDIT: Obviously you did if you gave him a wand. Care to elaborate, I find this facinating. What does a wand do?
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They didn't grow up Pagan. I raise them to keep an open mind and read (I made them read. I would turn off the TV and say it is time to read everyday.) When I became a Pagan they fell right into it. I didn't make them, but I was always handing them books on it. The youngest is in love, he will find is way and if he stays a christian then that is his Path. They spent a lot of time with their grandparents when my wife and I were sick. Sadly I couldn't care for them and her too. It was hard on them, but I think they came through it ok. I am proud of them. To argue with him about it brakes a tenement of my religion. As long as he doesn't try to save the old man I am ok with it.
The wand is to channel energy. Like an athame. I make them out of sticks and beads and whatever I find.

Stellar

Mar 28 2005, 09:23 PM

QUOTE

You sound like a wonderful father, and you also sound like a wise man.

Yes, he does, doesnt he?

Reader519

Mar 29 2005, 02:38 AM

I think you did the right thing, it sounds like your a great dad.

KevinM

Mar 29 2005, 02:55 AM

Can't help but snicker a little at this. Wiccans gripe so much about how we Christians think of kids converting.... More seriously bravo. It takes a degree of maturity far to many people lack to honestly tolerate your kid choosing a different faith then your own. Reservations aside you acted like any good father should act towards there child and thats some thing the world needs more of.

Faeden

Mar 29 2005, 03:07 AM

Yeah this is good. But if I had a kid and they wanted to become Christian, Jewish, pagan, whatever id be its all good

Because I would have brought them up to know that everyone is equal no matter what they believe, I would make sure they knew that the moment they start becoming egotistical or extremist or judgmental then they would feel my wrath

I think id just be happy my kids where taking an interest in something that is going to stimulate there mind, rather than doing drugs, alcohol, or crime.

I used to know a pagan lady thats daughter wanted to be Christian, and she had to take her kid to church every Sunday morning, it was humorous because sometimes she could not be bothered to drive home and back again just to pick her up, so she would just sit in church every Sunday it was humorous to me.

All the best
Faeden

Lost_In_Thought

Mar 29 2005, 03:16 AM

Man, I wish my dad was like this....

SilverCougar

Mar 29 2005, 03:28 AM

Mine to. I still love him, but when I was just learning my path, I got into alot of screaming matches with him.... *sighs*

Darkwind

Mar 29 2005, 03:51 AM

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I used to know a pagan lady thats daughter wanted to be Christian, and she had to take her kid to church every Sunday morning, it was humorous because sometimes she could not be bothered to drive home and back again just to pick her up, so she would just sit in church every Sunday it was humorous to me.

Oh man, I don't think I could be that good. "You can be a christian when you learn how to drive" I wonder if she were her Pentagram. hehehe I wouldn't be able to resist.

I have gone to suppers at churches with mine on. Christian woman are better cooks than Pagan women so if I am invited to a sermon I have to be fed. But I am nice I invite them to a Circle at my house. So far nobody has taken me up on it. I don't think the kid going to invite me to a church social. He knows better. The best way to get back at kids for all the heck they put you through is embarrass them heck out of them.

Just when you all thought I was perfect.

2quillmadness

Mar 29 2005, 04:08 AM

You handled it perfectly.
On the bright side at least there is one more Christian out there now who can educate the ones who think we're all hell spawn.

SilverCougar

Mar 29 2005, 04:19 AM

Assuming he doesn't start telling people that we are >.<

marduk

Mar 29 2005, 04:21 AM

QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Mar 29 2005, 05:19 AM)

Assuming he doesn't start telling people that we are >.<
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No need with you two publicising the christian/hellspawn link is there

SilverCougar

Mar 29 2005, 04:22 AM

Me? rofl.. that's a right trick ;P

If anything I try to stop that. Takes using misconseptions to correct them...

marduk

Mar 29 2005, 04:40 AM

Excuse me,
but if christians aren't hellspawn then who is
no other religion has Hell
Its theirs and theirs alone
hehehe

Maybe frogspawn ?

meep meep

SilverCougar

Mar 29 2005, 04:44 AM

Right.. and now we've veered into left field...

theoric

Mar 29 2005, 05:37 AM

QUOTE(Essan @ Mar 28 2005, 06:02 AM)

When he becomes a Veggie.......then you chuck hime out

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hey! no picking on us vegans.

QUOTE(KevinM @ Mar 28 2005, 06:55 PM)

Can't help but snicker a little at this. Wiccans gripe so much about how we Christians think of kids converting.... More seriously bravo. It takes a degree of maturity far to many people lack to honestly tolerate your kid choosing a different faith then your own. Reservations aside you acted like any good father should act towards there child and thats some thing the world needs more of.
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i agree he is displaying a level of tolorance and understanding not shown by many.

scipherel

Mar 29 2005, 06:45 AM

I am teaching my daughter not to become a fanatics.
What i don't want to happen is. If she met a religious person and was invited to go for them on a sunday service and then she experienced something like happiness that she never felt before. Well that the start of it. My daughter will devote all her time for the Lord above and will close her mind on other truths but only listen to people that surrounds her. Well, its time for daddy to shoot all those people who is corrupting her mind.

SilverCougar

Mar 29 2005, 07:13 AM

QUOTE(hyperactive @ Mar 29 2005, 05:37 AM)

QUOTE(Essan @ Mar 28 2005, 06:02 AM)

When he becomes a Veggie.......then you chuck hime out

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hey! no picking on us vegans.

I;ve live with a veggie for 6 years now.. By law, I have the right to pick on veggies and vegans! ;D