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Batman Begins Site

As a fan of batman from a little kid, I am dying for this movie to come out. Watching the trailers isn't easing my need to watch this either... tongue.gif
Talon
Yeah, I want to see both it and the other one (Batman Resurection, or whatever its called). Thank god Robin hasn't even been born yet.
Neo2005
This movie looks awesome.
I think it'll be the best one
Shakezulah
yeah im really looking forward to this movie. the cast is fantastic too. but i didnt know there was another one coming out too.
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE(Neo2005 @ Mar 28 2005, 08:51 PM)
This movie looks awesome.
I think it'll be the best one
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Nah.

Nothing will beat the 1989 Batman movie, but it'll be the 2nd best, no contest.
TheCrow
QUOTE(Diebytheflyguy @ Mar 29 2005, 03:00 AM)
QUOTE(Neo2005 @ Mar 28 2005, 08:51 PM)
This movie looks awesome.
I think it'll be the best one
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Nah.

Nothing will beat the 1989 Batman movie, but it'll be the 2nd best, no contest.
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I think this one will be better than Tim Burtons version. The '89 version is good don't get me wrong but I think cos it was the first proper Batman movie to be done and it didn't particularly have anything majorly wrong with it is why people hold it in such high regards. But I watched some of it last night and I don't think it's unbeatable... but then again I'm not particularly a Bat fan so...

Christian Bale is awesome and so is Christopher Nolan and I think they will have made a far superior Batman movie to the '89 movie... but that's just me.
TheCrow
QUOTE(Talon S. @ Mar 29 2005, 02:50 AM)
Yeah, I want to see both it and the other one (Batman Resurection, or whatever its called). Thank god Robin hasn't even been born yet.
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What's Batman Resurrection? Never heard of it. You don't mean the indy film Batman: Dead End do you?
Talon
I heard thats its the sequal to Batman 4, rather than a prequal to Batman 1. Supposedly the Scarecrow is only guest staring in Batman Begins so that they can made a big deal of him reappearing in Batman 6. Although I read this last year so its quite possible that its all been scrapped.


There was also talk of doing a Batman Beyond Movie, don't know if thats still planned or not.
TheCrow
QUOTE(Talon S. @ Mar 29 2005, 06:44 PM)
I heard thats its the sequal to Batman 4, rather than a prequal to Batman 1. Supposedly the Scarecrow is only guest staring in Batman Begins so that they can made a big deal of him reappearing in Batman 6. Although I read this last year so its quite possible that its all been scrapped.


There was also talk of doing a Batman Beyond Movie, don't know if thats still planned or not.
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Hmm... Well I heard about Scarecrow been a bigger villain in Batman 6 but not anything about a sequel to Batman 4 but like I said I'm not much of a Bat fan so it's not exactly been on my radar.
Talon
Personally I wouldn't mind if they just pretend Batman 4 never happened
TheCrow
QUOTE(Talon S. @ Mar 29 2005, 07:12 PM)
Personally I wouldn't mind if they just pretend Batman 4 never happened
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Batman what? Eh? I thought there was only two... Batman and Batman Returns. grin2.gif

Batman 3 wasn't too bad, Jim Carrey was good as the Riddler but Batman and Robin definately needs to be forgotten. Having said that, I actually like Arnold as Mr. Freeze blush.gif He's not the greatest actor ever but I think he's actually quite underated and for the types of movies he does, he does good in them. Terminator trilogy, End of Days, Conan, Last Action Hero - all great.
Talon
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Batman what? Eh? I thought there was only two... Batman and Batman Returns. 


No, there are 4 so far, five after this movie

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Batman 3 wasn't too bad, Jim Carrey was good as the Riddler but Batman and Robin definately needs to be forgotten. Having said that, I actually like Arnold as Mr. Freeze  He's not the greatest actor ever but I think he's actually quite underated and for the types of movies he does, he does good in them. Terminator trilogy, End of Days, Conan, Last Action Hero - all great.


I liked 3, it was aiming at a family adience but still took itself seriously enough. 4 was terrible, the only redeeming feature was Batgirl's school uniform. Freeze wasn't as bad as he could have been, but Ivy was a joke.
rickfury188
everyone knows that its coming out june 15th, right? in the u.s.a.
Talon
17th in UK, although preview showings are 16th
riotboy555
The Batman Beyond movie was stopped in production because it was deemed "to expensive" sad.gif

I can't wait for Batman Begins though, and am not sure what other movie Talon is talking about. I think there was a Batman and Superman independant film being made though.
openmind1963
i have always been a batman fanatic since i was a little boy.i hope this movie is better than that batman and robin bullshit a few years back.
Talon
Batman is indeed the best superhero.
nou
any one dont like the batmobile look?
Talon
Well it does look weird, but it'll probably evolve into its current form as we go along.
__Kratos__
4 days, 4 hours and 15 mins... tongue.gif (not that I will see it in theaters right away... sad.gif )
Talon
I unfortunately have a little longer to wait. But with any luck I'll start getting my weekly delivers of anime in tommorrow so that'll do.
AztecInca
Only 2 days before it come out down here and I cant wait, after having to put up with the last so called Batman movie, I am throughly looking forward to a dark, proper batman film to redeem the series and once again push it into the spotlight where more films can be made.
LucidElement
u guys think it will be a good movie overall though?
Paranoid Android
QUOTE(Talon S. @ Mar 30 2005, 03:44 AM)
There was also talk of doing a Batman Beyond Movie, don't know if thats still planned or not.
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I'm not really sure about that, but there was a "Batman vs. Superman" slated. Batman Begins has been made in its place though


Paranoid Android
QUOTE(LucidElement @ Jun 15 2005, 06:33 PM)
u guys think it will be a good movie overall though?
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They are claiming that it will be a throwback to the dark, brooding atmosphere of Batman 1. I seriously hope they do.

But we'll just have to wait and see if the hype matches the truth.

Talon
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but there was a "Batman vs. Superman" slated.


omg, that sounds terrible hmm.gif Unless they wanted to make a Justice League movie, that might be okay huh.gif
Talon
The many faces of Batman
To mark the UK and US release of Batman Begins on Thursday, the BBC News website looks back at the long and chequered big-screen history of the classic comic-book crimefighter.



The Batman (1943), Batman and Robin (1949)

The Caped Crusader's screen debut came in a 1943 film serial, just four years after the character first appeared in comic-book form. Lewis Wilson became the first actor to portray Batman, with Douglas Croft as sidekick Robin.

This low-budget outing proved a humble launchpad for Batman as a cinema hero, but did at least extend familiarity with the character and start the ball rolling.

A series of sequels entitled Batman and Robin followed in 1949, with the eponymous heroes played by Robert Lowery and Johnny Duncan.



Batman (1966)

Almost two decades passed before Batman returned to cinemas in a spin-off from a popular new TV series.

Legend has it that the character's resurrection was thanks in part to fan Hugh Hefner, when the Playboy entrepreneur invited friends - including TV executives - to come and re-watch the original 40s films at his mansion.

Revelling in the opportunity to depict the heroic twosome in colour, this lively new adventure came with a garish colour scheme and scaled new heights of camp cheesiness.

Adam West was Batman and Burt Ward was a rather hyperactive Robin, with the pair pitted against no fewer than four of the comic book's nastiest villains.

In the film, the Joker, the Penguin, the Riddler and Catwoman conspired to steal a weapon capable of turning humans into piles of dust. Batman brought a fine array of hardware with him this time - including the Batmobile, Batcopter and shark-repellent Batspray.



Batman (1989), Batman Returns (1992)

The success of fellow crimefighter Superman in a 1978 movie made a return for Batman more likely. But script and casting wrangles meant that attempts to reinvigorate the franchise amounted to a series of false starts during the 1980s.


The project finally came to fruition just before the end of the decade, with actor Michael Keaton defying many doubters as Batman and the notoriously offbeat Tim Burton directing.

Burton made Gotham a shadowy, hi-rise metropolis which was just as bleak in the few daylight scenes.

Virtually the only element harking back to Batman's previous outing was the presence of the Joker, played with demented glee by a Golden Globe-nominated Jack Nicholson.

The film's box-office success made a sequel inevitable. Batman Returns managed to be even darker, with a look that was often virtually black-and-white and the creepy pairing of Danny DeVito as The Penguin and Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman.



Batman Forever (1995), Batman and Robin (1997)


Director Joel Schumacher took the reins and imposed another Bat-makeover.

Gotham was daubed with an abundance of multi-coloured neon, and leading man Val Kilmer played it very straight.

Robin made a comeback in the guise of Chris O'Donnell while heavyweight classic baddies The Riddler and Harvey Two-Face were played by Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones, both determined to out-ham the other.

Fans had mixed feelings towards Schumacher's take on the character, with the Batsuit's rubber nipples a key cause for concern.

More controversial still was the lavish 1997 follow-up, Batman and Robin.


With the frivolity factor raised further, it had even less restrained visual design, a simplistic plot and close-ups of the heroes' rubber-clad backsides in the opening sequence.

Neither Arnold Schwarzenegger as chief enemy Mr Freeze or Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl won many fans, and critics were savage.

Kilmer didn't reprise the role, so the Batsuit was worn this time by George Clooney, who still regularly voices his dissatisfaction with the film.



Batman Begins (2005)

For the latest Batman film, director Christopher Nolan takes the unusual approach of focusing his film almost exclusively on Batman's origins, showing us in detail how and why he got his name, look and gadgetry.

The very dark tone matches that of Tim Burton's films, but this time there's a grittier, real-world edge to it, stifling the deliberately fantastical comic-book feel that traditionally comes with superhero tales.


And Nolan seems to target an older audience than recent Batman efforts.

Whilst villains have dominated most previous Batman outings, here they play second fiddle, still causing considerable mayhem but without the traditional flamboyance.

The Scarecrow and Ra's Al Ghul are the thoroughly unpleasant characters threatening Gotham - battling it out with a brooding, athletic Batman, played by Christian Bale.

The film's open ending doesn't merely suggest a sequel is inevitable, but points to the identity of its primary bad guy - a returning favourite.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/ente...ilm/4600669.stm
Paranoid Android
QUOTE(Talon S. @ Jun 15 2005, 08:22 PM)
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but there was a "Batman vs. Superman" slated.


omg, that sounds terrible hmm.gif Unless they wanted to make a Justice League movie, that might be okay huh.gif
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Not as bad as you might think. Contrived perhaps. but there was a comic book of Batman vs. Superman, so it can't be totally Hollywood.

The idea, as far as i was aware, was that Gotham City elected a new mayor. A corrupt mayor. Batman, who works for the Mayor, is then sent to get rid of the meddlesome Superman.

I'm not sure how Batman would have a hope in Hell, not without super powers, but as I said, there is a comic with a similar theme so I guess the comic world can accept it. Why not cinema?


Talon
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Not as bad as you might think. Contrived perhaps. but there was a comic book of Batman vs. Superman, so it can't be totally Hollywood.


They also have had Goku vs Superman laugh.gif

Which is totally stupid because Goku wouldn't even notice Superman's attacks. wacko.gif


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The idea, as far as i was aware, was that Gotham City elected a new mayor. A corrupt mayor. Batman, who works for the Mayor, is then sent to get rid of the meddlesome Superman.

I'm not sure how Batman would have a hope in Hell, not without super powers, but as I said, there is a comic with a similar theme so I guess the comic world can accept it. Why not cinema?


Nah, that wouldn't work. 1. Superman would kill Batman easily 2. Batman would never work for a corrupt Mayor, he'd be the one trying to bring him down.
nick_fury
not if he didn't know he was corrupt wink2.gif yes.gif
girty1600
Although I really like the Tim Burton "Batman" I am glad he is not directing this one. "Batman Begins" looks very good and is opening here in a couple of days. I hope I am not disappointed!
Talon
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not if he didn't know he was corrupt 


But why would he kill Superman though? They both know each other from the Justic League, or could this be how they met to form the Justice League? huh.gif
Talon
Or am I just reading to much into a comic book made for profit wacko.gif
nick_fury
could be. Or maybe Superman was framed for a crime or portrayed badly by the mayor, so batman thought he'd gone off the rails
riotboy555
Well, I saw it last night on the midnight showing, and it was awesome. Christian Bale was an awesome Batman. Probably the best. This movie isn't like the other Batman movies or comic book movies. It seems more like a movie that would be nominated for Oscars and stuff. Anyway, I give it two thumbs up. thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif
Talon
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Anyway, I give it two thumbs up.


Its that two out of two thumbs up? Or two out of three? tongue.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Going to see it tonight at 10pm.
nick_fury
crying.gif i gotta wait untill next week
looks awesome though i love batman, and i reckon bale is the best actor to date to portray him, he'sw got a much broodier quality that people like keaton (although don't get me wrong he did a great job) and clooney lacked. Gonna be a smash hit
Talon
Yeah Clooney could play Wayne okay, but he just lacked the Batman element. To be fair though, look at the script he was working with.
openmind1963
batman begins came out today did'nt it?i was gonna take my boy(he's 8)to see it for my birthday,but is it too hard or intense for an 8 year old to follow? thumbsup.gif
riotboy555
I liked it. I say you take him. There were quite a few kids in the theater I was in. thumbsup.gif
colorless
How was Gary Oldman's performance?
rickfury188
the movie was spectacular. christopher nolan got it perfect, and your kid will LOVE it!!! it never had a dull moment, and it was just great.
Tommy
I saw this last night and have to say I really enjoyed it! Great acting, superb plot and script. There wasn’t a whole lot not to like!

It was interesting the detail they spent showing the discovery of the bat cave; The Wayne manor exterior has never looked so impressive! I definitely preferred this to the first Spiderman. Highly recommended thumbsup.gif cool.gif
Talon
I'm going take Sera to it in 3 hours, I'll just go see if a friend wants to go as well
Talon
Okay, saw it, loved it. grin2.gif Sera thought it was 'okay' tongue.gif
TheCrow
Just got back from seeing it. Pretty good, dragged on in some bits but Christian Bale was awesome. My only real beef with it was the style used to film some of the fight scenes... That right up close, fast cut, shaky camera, different angles thing... I don't like it. I find it hard to follow what is happening and most of the time you don't actually see the fight you just see random punches/tackles and it's like "Who threw that punch?", "Who just got taken down?"... Not really a problem with the film itself, just my personal dislike that that approach to a fight scene.

But a good film none the less... Much better than the Tim Burton version. And the Joker reference at the end was a nice touch... Benico Del Toro or Crispin Glover for Joker!

And I got to see trailers for The Island, which looks pretty good and Narnia which looks down right awesome.

I saw Sin City yesterday too which is awesome thumbsup.gif
Talon
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My only real beef with it was the style used to film some of the fight scenes... That right up close, fast cut, shaky camera, different angles thing


Yeah that was Sera' criticism also. She believed after the first fight seen we'd introduced Batman, everyone knew what he now looked like so they should have moved onto well chorographed fight scenes, not continued as if trying to hide what Batman looked like again... and again.. and again.
BurnSide
That's my general critism in ALL action movies as of late.
Mr and Mrs Smith was exactly the same. Excellent action, but the fighting was all close up camera shakes.

I think the directors feel it 'puts you in the scene' more but really, i just can't see what's going on and get a headache. disgust.gif
Talon
All the new Star Wars movies, no matter what you say about script, acting or over use of CGT, can say though that they got it right with the fighting. The Jedi/Sith fights were a perfect example of how fight scenes should be. They were explosive, they were fast, they were exciting, they were well chorographed, and you saw every single peice of the action clearly.
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