looking at some of these pictures people have of 'ghosts' or 'orbs' it's so pathetic how people believe that they are fooling anyone ... dust on a camera lense hardly seems like a spirit to me, lights reflecting off things dont either, and most of all, when people have a photo of a 'ghost' and it has no perspective at all, and what they fail to mention is that they are smoking a cigarette, if anyone smokes you will know what i mean... it's just so pathetic in my opinion that people crave the attention, and worse that people believe it .. when an orb appears and it's clearly in the foreground of the picture, and infront of everything, its on your lense, when a 'ghost' appears and it's coming from your hand... it's obviously smoke... get a life.

This should explain it.

" People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true."
-Terry Goodkind, Sword of Truth book series.

Although that is simply a meager quote from a fantasy book, it has great meaning to it. People want orbs to be real and are very desperate to see a ghost, or they fear that they are ghosts and if seen in their house, elevate their fear even more. People are stupid!

Not all cases have to do with cigarette smoke and not every orb is a smudge on the lens. My friend has taken a picture of a ghost before and it cant be explained as anything else( If i could prove it was anything other than a ghost i would have). People have seen ghosts with out wanting to see them..its not always just because they yearn to see one. Your obviously pretty ignorant on the subject.

PS- Your right The Raven, people can be very stupid.

i didnt say every orb was fake, or every pic was fake, obviously you're too ignorant to read the post.. try reading it again, bet your foot will be in your mouth pretty quickly.

'when an orb appears and it's clearly in the foreground of the picture, and infront of everything, its on your lense, when a 'ghost' appears and it's coming from your hand... it's obviously smoke... get a life.'

incase you are still too ignorant, this is the part you should focus on, although im sure you had passed judgement before getting this far into the post.. but thanks for the reply! (sarcasm)

Yeah, it's amazing how so many so-called "orbs" or "wisps" do not appear to be behind or in-between anything in the pictures. Most appear to be between the camera and the subject.

exactly

i think ppl just so desperately want to believe because of a loss or a fear of death or the unknown. it is a trait of the human mind to want to have an explanation for everything. plus, if someone watches a program where an authority figure tells them an 'orb' is a ghost, then they're more likely to believe.

I never believed in Orbs, I think its just an excuse to call somthing a ghost. But hey,It could be real... nobody will ever know.3

scrdshtlss befor you say all orbs are fake why dont you go do some research i know some are real ive seen them in my own home

I think a lot of people desperately want to believe in something other than real life. I don't think it's any different than playing the lottery; if there's even the remotest (is that a word?) chance than something like this could actually happen, then some people will hold on to it for all it's worth. To believe in ghosts is to believe that logic and science aren't always the answers to things with no reasonable explanation. To believe there's a chance to communicate with lost loved ones. Basically to have an open mind and be willing to accept the fact that there are no definitive answers. I've never seen a ghost, but I keep telling myself that you just never know...

Maybe because the pics are so outrageous and unbelieveable that people just want to believe.
I know i;ve been fooled once in a while

Exactly.

It's easy enough for someone to say, "Four million, trillion, zillion scientists have examined this and have found that it CAN'T BE CAUSED BY DUST SO ITS REAL," without backing their claims or providing any sort of reputable reference. People accept that as fact without looking further into things.

Plus, ghosts are far more interesting than a speck of dust. People would rather believe that an orb is a spirit, as it's entertaining to them.

That said, I've yet to see an orb photo that couldn't be attributed to a worldly cause. If someone has one they'd like to share, I'd love to see it.

i know orbs are real not all that ya see in pics are real but ive seen some real 1s

But how did you know that they were real?

cause i know they where moveing in air

People believe in lots of different things, its called faith and really there is nothing bad about it.

Ettiquette, Manners, now THERE'S something everyone should believe in and practice, and yet , apparetnly they don't.

this is not faith this is reality

As certain replies in this thread have proven.

I like debating things as much as the next person, but calling someone "ignorant" for their beliefs crosses the line.

I was going to give the OP heck for that, but I figured he'd come back calling me all sorts names and whatnot, so I refrained.

i dont really care what he said he knows nothing

I would say to scrdshtlss that this today's posting by him seems completely out of tune with his call for help yesterday (or was it the day before?). Does he or she not read the replies offered by readers of this column? How can he call people's beliefs "pathetic" after what he wrote about last time when he justified the pseudonym SCRDSHTLSS Lonecat

no no no no, you've got this thread all wrong, i wasn't saying that none of them were real, or anything like that.. im saying that there are such obvious fakes out there, i dont see how people could believe that they are real, and especially how people believe they are fooling anyone with them.... i am in no way saying that they are all fake.

i love seeing 'ghost' pictures but orb pics imo aren't as interesting. i mean, i'll give anything a chance, but unless i took it myself i'd be skeptical. that said, i'd much rather see an orb pic than one of those pics where someone's camera strap is illuminated by the flash!

This may be what you strongly believe in, but that does not mean it is or was right. Look how awful the Inquisition was, and just to think, at the time the people truely believed in what they did. You should try and respect other beliefs like your own before bossing them around and saying yours is right and theirs is wrong, because in fact they probably have more proof that you are wrong than they are -- always know your enemy and don't make biased, flawed assumptions.

Ok, so does everyone understand that i was not calling all pictures fake, or that you were pathetic in anyway... i was more refering to the people that do things like this for attention :/ sorry

lol, this is a conversation I had with a member of my investigation team.

Bobby: It's an orb?

Me: Does it have it's own light source?

Bobby: I dunno...

Me: So what makes you think it's an orb?

Bobby: it's round...

Me: Smart ass.

I've never seen a "real" Orb. or one I couldn't properly dismiss with a little investigation into the camera.
The whole theory of "collected energy" that supports the orb "Phenomena" Is shaky at best, considering that manifestation would have to be cross dimensional. Which would disperse energy, rather than create it.

People just want to believe :/

First orbs on film are pretty much all garbage. Maybe 1% COULD be legit. Before any one asks some thing silly like why do they move let me explain. Not all orbs are smudges on the lense. Many if not most are in fact dust or another airborne particle. The ones that might be some thing are the ones that are expanding into some thing more complex.

Second as to why people believe. Two reasons the first people have a desperate need to believe in some thing. Any thing that reinforces there beliefs must be real and legit(heck look how many people take discredited charliatans like Praagh, Edwards, Browne and Geller seriously no matter how many glaring 100% failed predictions they make). If some one is determined enough to believe some thing no ammount of evidence logical or other wise will convince them its not the case.

It also doesn't help that some "experts" on ghosts champion orbs and other fake pictures so heavily. The worst offender of the bunch has to be Dave Oester or as I prefer to call him Ghoster Oester. Relying entirely on a mail order doctorate in divinity and a mail order ordination(both taken from www.ulc.com who will ordain any one any where for free and give you the doctor of divinity title for less then twenty bucks) to support his case. The majority of inteligent investigators realize he's a joke but a lot of people listen to him or his lackeys like PGHS for there information(check out www.ghostweb.com for details on Daves nonsense)