The diplomat who remembers his past lives
Posted: 11:50 PM (Manila Time) | Jan. 12, 2004
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Together for 6,000 years
Part 2
"THE MEMORY of my past life started with people close to me," said Carlos A.L. de Carvalho, a Brazilian lawyer and career diplomat.
For example, I remember my past lives with my parents. We have been together for the last 6,000 years, always the three of us.
"Most of the time, my past life is shown to me while looking at the mirror. My facial features would change to reveal who I was before.
"It was in the mirror that I first saw my past incarnation as a high priest of the Egyptian god, Ptah, during the time of Akhnaton and Nefertiti. My name was Saddji. Ptah was the great initiator in charge of the ceremony of the little death, which was really a preparation for astral journey."
Carlos is well aware of the tremendous flight of fantasy and mental confusion that people have regarding their past lives. "I have met many women who claim to be the reincarnation of Nefertiti. Well, I have news for them! Nefertiti has not yet reincarnated back to earth. One time I was challenged to prove this, and Nefertiti appeared or materialized before us!
"Everybody thinks he is a reincarnation of some great personage in history, like Napoleon or Julius Caesar. Nobody wants to be a common person or peasant in a previous life."
But there are more ordinary or common people than famous ones, isn't it? "For example," continued Carlos, "I saw myself in one previous incarnation as a clown! Yes, I was a clown once, and why should I deny that?"
"That's in fact a nice profession, isn't it," I said, "to be able to make people laugh and forget their troubles?"
Carlos agreed with me.
"In another lifetime I saw myself in 19th-century Spain as a famous ballerina. I was so beautiful that my husband committed suicide because of jealousy. In this lifetime, I met the same man, and this time, I saved him from committing suicide again."
From Lemuria
Carlos also saw himself in the mirror as an antedeluvian man from Lemuria. "I was a big black man with a thick beard."
[COLOR=blue]Then Carlos asked me if I knew that the Philippines was part of Lemuria. I said yes, and told him I even saw a map of Lemuria, and the Philippines was in it. And this could explain why in the Philippines there are so many healers, psychics, clairvoyants, mediums and spirits.
Lemuria was known for two things, high telepathic powers and high spirituality, which present-day Filipinos are known for.
"Don't you find your belief in reincarnation to be in conflict with your profession and your Catholic religion?" I asked Carlos.
"Not at all," he replied instantly. "I've always been very discreet about my personal beliefs. And as far as religion is concerned, you yourself pointed out in a recent newspaper column that the Catholic Church has not formally condemned belief in reincarnation."
Full Version: Lemuria & the Philippines connection
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Lemurian Unnonfiction
Puzzling consistencies between rocks, fossils, and animal species found in South Asia and Eastern Africa led 19th Century palaeontologists and geologists to postulate a lost landmass that once connected the two now separated regions. This theory was vigorously supported by E. H. Haeckel, who used it to explain the distribution of Lemur-related species throughout Southern Africa, South and South-East Asia. On this basis, the English Zoologist Phillip L Sclater named the hypothetical continent Lemuria, or Land of the Lemurs. Lemurs are treated as relics, or biological remainders of a hypothetical continent: living ghosts of a lost world.
Haeckel's theoretical investment in Lemuria, however, went much further than this. He proposed that the invented continent was the probable cradle of the human race, speculating that it provided a solution to the darwinian mystery of the 'missing link' (the absence of immediately pre-human species from the fossil record). For Haeckel, Lemuria was the original home of man, the 'true Eden,' all traces of which had been submerged by its disappearance. He considered the biological unity of the human species to have since been lost (disintegrating into twelve distinct species).
As a scientific conjecture Lemuria has been buried by scientific progress. Not only have palaeontologists largely dispelled the problem of the missing link through additional finds, but the science of Plate Tectonics has also replaced the notion of 'sunken continents' with that of continental drift.
'When the theory of continental drift was developed, people realized that it and other more prosaic theories explained the distribution of animals, fossils, and plants better then lost continents. As a result, Lemuria was allowed to fade away into obscurity, while eclipsed by more realistic theories long before there were GEOSAT and SEASAT satellite data to demonstrate the fictional nature of Lemuria. - [SPHINX group].
Now bypassed by oecumenic rationality as a scientific fiction or an accidental myth, Lemuria sinks into obscure depths once again.
There are two sub-orders of primates, the anthropoids (consisting of monkeys, apes, and humans) and the prosimians, which include madagascan lemurs, asian lorises, australian galgoes (or bushbabies), and the tarsiers of the Philippines and Indonesia. The prosimians constitute a branch of evolution distinct from, and older than, the anthropoids. Outside Madagascar, competition from the anthropoids has driven all prosimians into a nocturnal mode of existence.
With the submergence of the Lemuria hypothesis, the presence of lemurs on Madagascar becomes puzzling. Lemurs are only 55 million years old, whilst Madagascar broke away African mainland 120 million years ago.
Lemurs have also come to serve as icons of ecological tragedy. In 1987, World Wildlife International declared lemurs to be the most seriously endangered group of primates in the world.
In the late 19th Century the conception of Lemuria was eagerly seized upon by occultists, who - like their scientific cousins - wove it into elaborate evolutionary and racial theories.
In The Secret Doctrine, a commentary on the Atlantean Book of Dzyan, H.P. Blavatsky describes Lemuria as the third in a succession of lost continents. It is preceded by Polarea and Hyperborea, and followed by Atlantis (which was built from a fragment of Western Lemuria). Atlantis immediately precedes the modern world, and two further continents are still to come. According to Theosophical orthodoxy, each such 'continent' is the geographical aspect of a spiritual epoch, providing a home for the series of seven 'Root Races.' The name of each lost continent is used ambiguously to designate both the core territory of the dominant root race of that age, and also for the overall distribution of terrestrial landmass during that period (in this latter respect it can even be seen as consistent with continental drift, and thus as more highly developed than the orginal scientifc conception).
L. Sprague de Camp describes Blavatsky's third root race, the "ape-like, hermaphroditic egg-laying Lemurians, some with four arms and some with an eye in the back of their heads, whose downfall was caused by their discovery of sex" [LC:58]. There is broad concensus amongst occultists that the rear-eye of the Lemurians persists vestigially as the human pineal gland.
W. Scott Elliot adds that the Lemurians had "huge feet, the heels of which stuck out so far they could as easily walk backwards as forwards." According to his account the Lemurians discovered sex during fourth sub-race, interbreeding with beasts, and producing the great apes. This behavior disgusted the spiritual Lhas who were supposed to incarnate into them, but now refused. The Venusians volunteered to take the place of the Lhas, and also taught the Lemurians various secrets (including those of metallurgy, weaving and agriculture).
Rudolf Steiner was also fascinated by the Lemurians, remarking that: "This Root-Race as a whole had not yet developed memory" [AL:68]. The "Lemurian was a born magician" [AL:73], whose body was less solid, plastic, and 'unsettled.'
More recently Lemuria has been increasingly merged into Churchward's lost pacific continent of Mu, drifting steadily eastwards until even parts of modern California have been assimilated to it.
Although Blavatsky credits Sclater as the source for the name Lemuria, it cannot have been lost upon her, or her fellow occultists, that Lemuria was a name for the land of the dead, or the Western Lands. The word Lemur is derived from Latin lemure, literally: shade of the dead. The Romans conceived the lemures as vampire-ghosts, propitiated by a festival in May. In this vein, Eliphas Levi writes of "Larvae and lemures, shadowy images of bodies which have lived and of those which have yet to come, issued from these vapours by myriads…" [HM:126].
Works Cited
AL - Rudolf Steiner. Atlantis and Lemuria. Theosophical Publishing Society, 1911
HM - Eliphas Levi. History of Magic. WeiserBooks, 2001
LC - L. Sprague de Camp. Lost Continents ...
http://www.ccru.net/occultures/mythlemuria.htm
Puzzling consistencies between rocks, fossils, and animal species found in South Asia and Eastern Africa led 19th Century palaeontologists and geologists to postulate a lost landmass that once connected the two now separated regions. This theory was vigorously supported by E. H. Haeckel, who used it to explain the distribution of Lemur-related species throughout Southern Africa, South and South-East Asia. On this basis, the English Zoologist Phillip L Sclater named the hypothetical continent Lemuria, or Land of the Lemurs. Lemurs are treated as relics, or biological remainders of a hypothetical continent: living ghosts of a lost world.
Haeckel's theoretical investment in Lemuria, however, went much further than this. He proposed that the invented continent was the probable cradle of the human race, speculating that it provided a solution to the darwinian mystery of the 'missing link' (the absence of immediately pre-human species from the fossil record). For Haeckel, Lemuria was the original home of man, the 'true Eden,' all traces of which had been submerged by its disappearance. He considered the biological unity of the human species to have since been lost (disintegrating into twelve distinct species).
As a scientific conjecture Lemuria has been buried by scientific progress. Not only have palaeontologists largely dispelled the problem of the missing link through additional finds, but the science of Plate Tectonics has also replaced the notion of 'sunken continents' with that of continental drift.
'When the theory of continental drift was developed, people realized that it and other more prosaic theories explained the distribution of animals, fossils, and plants better then lost continents. As a result, Lemuria was allowed to fade away into obscurity, while eclipsed by more realistic theories long before there were GEOSAT and SEASAT satellite data to demonstrate the fictional nature of Lemuria. - [SPHINX group].
Now bypassed by oecumenic rationality as a scientific fiction or an accidental myth, Lemuria sinks into obscure depths once again.
There are two sub-orders of primates, the anthropoids (consisting of monkeys, apes, and humans) and the prosimians, which include madagascan lemurs, asian lorises, australian galgoes (or bushbabies), and the tarsiers of the Philippines and Indonesia. The prosimians constitute a branch of evolution distinct from, and older than, the anthropoids. Outside Madagascar, competition from the anthropoids has driven all prosimians into a nocturnal mode of existence.
With the submergence of the Lemuria hypothesis, the presence of lemurs on Madagascar becomes puzzling. Lemurs are only 55 million years old, whilst Madagascar broke away African mainland 120 million years ago.
Lemurs have also come to serve as icons of ecological tragedy. In 1987, World Wildlife International declared lemurs to be the most seriously endangered group of primates in the world.
In the late 19th Century the conception of Lemuria was eagerly seized upon by occultists, who - like their scientific cousins - wove it into elaborate evolutionary and racial theories.
In The Secret Doctrine, a commentary on the Atlantean Book of Dzyan, H.P. Blavatsky describes Lemuria as the third in a succession of lost continents. It is preceded by Polarea and Hyperborea, and followed by Atlantis (which was built from a fragment of Western Lemuria). Atlantis immediately precedes the modern world, and two further continents are still to come. According to Theosophical orthodoxy, each such 'continent' is the geographical aspect of a spiritual epoch, providing a home for the series of seven 'Root Races.' The name of each lost continent is used ambiguously to designate both the core territory of the dominant root race of that age, and also for the overall distribution of terrestrial landmass during that period (in this latter respect it can even be seen as consistent with continental drift, and thus as more highly developed than the orginal scientifc conception).
L. Sprague de Camp describes Blavatsky's third root race, the "ape-like, hermaphroditic egg-laying Lemurians, some with four arms and some with an eye in the back of their heads, whose downfall was caused by their discovery of sex" [LC:58]. There is broad concensus amongst occultists that the rear-eye of the Lemurians persists vestigially as the human pineal gland.
W. Scott Elliot adds that the Lemurians had "huge feet, the heels of which stuck out so far they could as easily walk backwards as forwards." According to his account the Lemurians discovered sex during fourth sub-race, interbreeding with beasts, and producing the great apes. This behavior disgusted the spiritual Lhas who were supposed to incarnate into them, but now refused. The Venusians volunteered to take the place of the Lhas, and also taught the Lemurians various secrets (including those of metallurgy, weaving and agriculture).
Rudolf Steiner was also fascinated by the Lemurians, remarking that: "This Root-Race as a whole had not yet developed memory" [AL:68]. The "Lemurian was a born magician" [AL:73], whose body was less solid, plastic, and 'unsettled.'
More recently Lemuria has been increasingly merged into Churchward's lost pacific continent of Mu, drifting steadily eastwards until even parts of modern California have been assimilated to it.
Although Blavatsky credits Sclater as the source for the name Lemuria, it cannot have been lost upon her, or her fellow occultists, that Lemuria was a name for the land of the dead, or the Western Lands. The word Lemur is derived from Latin lemure, literally: shade of the dead. The Romans conceived the lemures as vampire-ghosts, propitiated by a festival in May. In this vein, Eliphas Levi writes of "Larvae and lemures, shadowy images of bodies which have lived and of those which have yet to come, issued from these vapours by myriads…" [HM:126].
Works Cited
AL - Rudolf Steiner. Atlantis and Lemuria. Theosophical Publishing Society, 1911
HM - Eliphas Levi. History of Magic. WeiserBooks, 2001
LC - L. Sprague de Camp. Lost Continents ...
http://www.ccru.net/occultures/mythlemuria.htm
The legend of Lemuria and sunken Sundaland
The legend of the sunken continent of Atlantis has been popularized through Western literature and film. A less known, but similar legend from Asia is that of the sunken continent sometimes called Lemuria.
The Lemuria legend is interesting because geologists have confirmed that large sections of land mass formerly connected to Asia were indeed submerged thousands of years ago. The largest chunk of such submarine real estate is known as Sundaland,
Sundaland formerly connected mainland Southeast Asia with Indonesia. Nearly all the islands of Indonesia formed one great land mass extending to Palawan in the Philippines. By the time the Holocene period was over 8,000 years ago, Southeast Asia had lost well over half of its surface area. Island groups in the Philippines and Eastern Indonesia were also formed during this period.
What makes this pertinent to the Lemuria myths is that the whole region of Sundaland and the neighboring islands were believed to have been populated before the ocean levels began rising. Not only populated, but rather relatively densely populated. Scientists have determined this by studying the current population levels along the "Asian waterfront" and also by evidence of extensive land clearance in early times.
During the 1930s, James Churchward made the legends of Lemuria known to the public after he studied the extensive myths of peoples living from India in the West to Hawai'i in the East.
For example, the old Tamil Sangam tradition contradicts modern theories that the Tamils were driven into South India by invading Aryans. Tamil legend states that they came from a sunken continent somewhere south of India.
Similar beliefs are dispersed throughout the equatorial Asia Pacific region.
If Sundaland and nearby regions were as heavily populated in pre-Holocene times as some specialists believe, the rising sea levels must have cause massive migrations.
Buckminster Fuller, a noted engineer and futurist, formulated a theory that the great voyages of the Malayo-Polynesian peoples were stimulated by whole populations losing their land to the sea.
Fuller was followed by Thai ethnographer Sumet Jumsai who correlated a mass of beliefs along the Asian waterfront and the Pacific and theorized that they belonged to the migrating peoples of sunken Sundaland.
The overall argument is rather reasonable. Although the drowning of Sundaland occurred over many thousands of years, during some periods sea levels rose rather drastically. The Holocene era saw such a dramatic rise.
The experience of relatively large numbers of peoples driven from their homelands by rising seas would definitely leave a mark on the collective psyche and cultures of these peoples.
Although the legends of Lemuria have been used by New Age types to devise various far-out theories including those involving extraterrestrials, the case of Sundaland argues that there may well be more behind these legends than pure myth.
The legend of the sunken continent of Atlantis has been popularized through Western literature and film. A less known, but similar legend from Asia is that of the sunken continent sometimes called Lemuria.
The Lemuria legend is interesting because geologists have confirmed that large sections of land mass formerly connected to Asia were indeed submerged thousands of years ago. The largest chunk of such submarine real estate is known as Sundaland,
Sundaland formerly connected mainland Southeast Asia with Indonesia. Nearly all the islands of Indonesia formed one great land mass extending to Palawan in the Philippines. By the time the Holocene period was over 8,000 years ago, Southeast Asia had lost well over half of its surface area. Island groups in the Philippines and Eastern Indonesia were also formed during this period.
What makes this pertinent to the Lemuria myths is that the whole region of Sundaland and the neighboring islands were believed to have been populated before the ocean levels began rising. Not only populated, but rather relatively densely populated. Scientists have determined this by studying the current population levels along the "Asian waterfront" and also by evidence of extensive land clearance in early times.
During the 1930s, James Churchward made the legends of Lemuria known to the public after he studied the extensive myths of peoples living from India in the West to Hawai'i in the East.
For example, the old Tamil Sangam tradition contradicts modern theories that the Tamils were driven into South India by invading Aryans. Tamil legend states that they came from a sunken continent somewhere south of India.
Similar beliefs are dispersed throughout the equatorial Asia Pacific region.
If Sundaland and nearby regions were as heavily populated in pre-Holocene times as some specialists believe, the rising sea levels must have cause massive migrations.
Buckminster Fuller, a noted engineer and futurist, formulated a theory that the great voyages of the Malayo-Polynesian peoples were stimulated by whole populations losing their land to the sea.
Fuller was followed by Thai ethnographer Sumet Jumsai who correlated a mass of beliefs along the Asian waterfront and the Pacific and theorized that they belonged to the migrating peoples of sunken Sundaland.
The overall argument is rather reasonable. Although the drowning of Sundaland occurred over many thousands of years, during some periods sea levels rose rather drastically. The Holocene era saw such a dramatic rise.
The experience of relatively large numbers of peoples driven from their homelands by rising seas would definitely leave a mark on the collective psyche and cultures of these peoples.
Although the legends of Lemuria have been used by New Age types to devise various far-out theories including those involving extraterrestrials, the case of Sundaland argues that there may well be more behind these legends than pure myth.
how long ago did lemuria start the antlantian civ? 
Lemuria, ( Mu ) is a very facinating topic, but somehow I still find myself a bit skeptical of it ever existing.
Um... this is a bit off topic... but
namelessone, your avatar looks so much like the cookie monster its scary
no offence....
COOKIE!!!
namelessone, your avatar looks so much like the cookie monster its scary
no offence....COOKIE!!!
So when Carlos finds out that there was no such place as Lemuria, think he'll be upset or just console himself with the memory of being elizabeth the 1st
if plato heard stories of antlantis, he heard of lemuria also or sumthing?
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ Apr 7 2005, 09:34 AM)
if plato heard stories of antlantis, he heard of lemuria also or sumthing?
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Naw, they're completely different.
why are they different. Neither of them exist ?
Even plato agrees on that one
Even plato agrees on that one
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