Why would God care aobut what we do? He is a higher being with the power to weave the very fabric of the universe. I don't really question that there is a god, I question religion. Religion states that god loves all of us. Why would he? Religion was made by man, years and years after man was created. Why would god, if he cared so much, wait so long to give the world jesus christ? I would like to hear your thoughts on this.

I don't believe he ignores us totally, or hate us... but I think he is getting bored with us, or at least I imagine he is..but you never know. He prob. is like a kid with a new toy, after he is bored... he goes and buys another one ( or creates it in this case )

if you had a kid, would you care what he/she did?

that's all i'm gonna say

I hate religion too. There's a christian song that goes, "I'm sorry Lord for the thing I made it; it's all about you...it's all about you Jesus." Mankind makes worshipping God into something it shouldn't be, but God wants us to be good to each other. If you were God, would you say, "Alright, I've created man and they can do whatever they want. No punishment or anything!" How crazy would things get? Are you trying to advocate that people should be able to do whatever they want? If you look at everything God commanded of man, there's a reason why we shouldn't do it. You may not accept it, but that's the way it is. Of course, you can live your life like a rebel and do whatever you want and see where it gets you. Most likely, in the end, you'll end up in prison or dead. It happens everytime.

We Deist believe that the Creator, for reasons of his/her/its own, does not interact with us. For that matter, why should we be favored by him? We are no more deserving of his care and concern than any of his other creatures. We are little more than brainy, incessantly chattering primates, with an overblown sense of worth. We (Deists) do believe that the Creator loves us and point out the life-friendly world and universe that he has given us as proof of that love, but he loves us no more nor no less than any other of his creations. Religion is naught more than Mankind’s primitive striving to understand the world and universe that he lives in. How else can primitives explain the stars, the winds, the endless waters of the ocean but with religions and Gods. We really don’t know when man first invented religion, but there have been altar-like arrangements of stone slabs and cave bears skulls found in Neanderthal caves and burials that show sign of the body being painted with red ochre (maybe to emulate the rosy color of life) and then covered with wild flowers. This could be indicative of religion and then maybe not. Circumstantial at best; but still evidences of the possible stirring of religion. I personally do not believe that the Creator had any need for human sacrifice, nor did mankind have need of personal redemption in the manner of Christianity, Judaism or Islam, so I reject the idea of a Christ as totally superfluous. He would have no reason to send an offspring in the guise of a brainy primate living on a minor planet orbiting an average star, to be executed in order that all the other brainy primates could be saved from sin (a concept that I doubt the Creator subscribes to). You asked for our thoughts on the matter and there they are - CD

how about this:

enter the higher order being into existence:
it is young, and curious, and growing. It needs to discover what it is.
as part of that, it creates a little "terrarium" of life, which which to experiment.
at first it is all consumed by its creation. It thinks that what it created owes something back to itself. So it gets involved, "stirring up the ant colony" if you will. It picks favorites, it picks victims, it enjoys the entertainment value of inflicting suffering on its little creations.....

as it ages, it has less interest in the terarium. it takes a look in a every once in a while to see if things are still alive or not, and then carries on with more interesting things....

perhaps one day it looks in and the colony is dead, so it throws the whole thing out.
or
perhaps one day it looks in to discover the ants have figured a way out of the terarrium. Not wanting its little creatures scurrying about, it quickly kills the entire terarrium off.

thus we can see the "gods" as children going through the stages of development.

It is not watching now becuase it has seen it all before, so it isn't very interesting to stir the nest anymore.

OR: perhaps it is more sinister?
maybe it is more like a lab experiment. We are the simple orgaisms created to create something else the "god" can't create on its own. Once we create what it is waiting for, then we are in for a disturbance as it extracts its goal from our tank.

There's no thing such as God, God is everything, he isnt a "person" (with person i mean a singularity). God is the Whole.

Consummate Deist, probably had the most fitting answer. That we are just to minor of a thing in the universe.

So... "If a billion people died tomarrow, would it affect the universe?" Sort of approach. Thanks for all your thoughts.

systems theory allows the same approach without appealing the the supernatural.

Consummate Deist did have a pretty good answer. I myself believe that God is all-mighty, all-loving and non-judgemental. I can't say that I have ever been able to understand how everything ended up revolving around Jesus. I am by no means saying that it shouldn't, but why him and why then? I said this before in another thread on religion--All roads lead to "your" God. As long as you pick one of them to travel on, you will reach your personal destination--no matter what.

The thing about Jesus is that there seems to be nothing in existence in reference to him outside the Church. This leaves the Church in a position to interperate everything thier way...example...what if Jesus was like Martin Luther King...showing people how to really live amongst each other...see how dangerous self-growth and spiritualism would be to a super-power like the Romans? I think the Romans twisted what Jesus was really all about into something completely foreign to true spirituality...I am heartened by some posts here in that some see the difference between religion and spirituality. Of course no god would wait 'til 2000 years ago to give us "the One True Religion". Religions have come and gone throughout history. They divide us all...especially the strict fundementalists...or "conservatives", they have been guilty of wars and age -old hatreds. No religion gives you spirituality...you have to work for it. What of god? How does god fit in? Well....what god? He? She? It? Describe god. My point is no one knows...so if we don't really know then why build up all these different religions around someone elses interpretation? How can someone say..."this is the way and it is the only way"...? I see some wisdom in all religions but those are spiritual principles. I think it all boils down to what level of conciousness do you want to reach in this life? Or understanding. I think it is about growth.

wow hey, nothing like... seeing things...