I think this will be a good thread for everybody.

With all due respect:

I think that since Atheists do not believe in creation, they should castrate themselves, in this way they will completely renounce the idea of creation, thus they will be 100% Atheists!

And if Believers want to truly born again, they have to start saving their sexual energies for such a purpose! And stop eating from the forbidden fruit!

What do you think about this?

...as an atheist?

not much.

I think you didn't need the exclamation point..The title is an attention grabber by itself..
And with all due respect I think you've missed several obvious points here..One being that not believing in creation leans you towards evolution and survival of the fittest. Propagating the species is essential to surviving and continuing the species and so you'd need all your organs intact to fulfill your biological duties..
It would be the Ultra-Religious who wouldn't need thier naughty-bits, not we scientifically minded folk..After all, with the belief that there's some great and perfect afterlife out there you wouldn't need to waste time with pleasures of the flesh would you?
I think you've got your argument backwards..

well see the whole thing about being an athiest is that you can fornicate, fornicate, fornicate! thats the whole point...your not creating for the purpose of creation, your creating for the purpose of you dna living on..this how evolution works, the more fornicating the more chance of survival....but you believers only get to fornicate with your wife and ONLY when you are trying to have a baby...have fun

to add: to be closer to god is to be more akin to god. to be more like the "god" that does not reproduce the way mortals do, castration would make you more like said "god". Neither of you reproducing physically.

So, are you against contraception pills, abortion, vasectomy, fallopian tubes tied, diaphragms, etc., that do not help evolution and that destroy the organs of the fittest survival to be intact in order to fulfill their biological duties; and think that the Ultra-Religious folks should be the ones who need to be castrated since they do not believe that the pleasures of the flesh are good?

Do you mean "Immaculate Conception?"

Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but the sexual creative energy shall destroy both with AIDS.

Do you not know that the one who performs a sexual act shares all the psychosomatic sicknesses in one body? for they are one flesh.

Fornication: Every stupidity that a man does is without the body; but he that commits fornication corrupts his own body.

And, with this topic, Loge has earned the distinction of becoming the very first person on my ignore list. Congratulations Loge, have an interesting life.

Thank you for giving me such a privilege!

I really like it!

BTW Who are you any way?

Do I know you?

Oh you are "Jump More Please Dear 1"

First of all, not beleiveing in creation doesnt mean you don't beleive in sex. In fact, it means you beleive in it if not more so.

Secondly; the topic is half-baked, pointless, and will acheive no intelligent discussion beyond that which has already been said.

Yup, pretty much. It shouldn't matter wether or not you are a religious person. Everyone was born with sexual organs for a reason. People are intitled to use it for whatever reason they want to. If they just so happen to want to use it to degrade their body, then that's their personal choice. This post is pretty pointless.

I'm a believer. I'm also married. What purpose are you speaking of here? That the sexual act is strictly for procreation and for nothing else?

LOL, to be born again we have stop and save sexual energy? Doesn't God want us to enjoy our wife? I'm lost Loge, maybe an athiest wants a wife too? That's kinda rude telling them to castrate themselves.

Am I rude?

I don’t think so!

Deuteronomy, chapter 23:
1: He that is wounded in the testicles, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
2: A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

"Bastard - derogatory term for a variation that is not genuine; something irregular or inferior or of dubious origin."

Leviticus, chapter 15
16: "And if a man has an emission of semen, he shall bathe his whole body in water, and be unclean until the evening.
17: And every garment and every skin on which the semen comes shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the evening.
18: If a man lies with a woman and has an emission of semen, both of them shall bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the evening.

31: "Thus you shall keep the people of Israel separate from their uncleanness, lest they die in their uncleanness by defiling my tabernacle (sexual; organs) that is in their midst (of their bodies)."
32: This is the law for him who has a discharge and for him who has an emission of semen, becoming unclean thereby;

1 Corinthians, chapter 7
29: I mean, brethren, the appointed time has grown very short; from now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none,

Leviticus, chapter 15:
18: If a man lies with a woman and has an emission of semen, both of them shall bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the evening.

Luke, chapter 1
5: In the days of Herod, king of Judea, there was a priest named Zechari'ah, of the division of Abi'jah; and he had a wife of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth.
6: And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
7: But they had no child, because Elizabeth was barren, and both were advanced in years.
8: Now while he was serving as priest before God when his division was on duty,
9: according to the custom of the priesthood, it fell to him by lot to enter the temple of the Lord and burn incense.
10: And the whole multitude of the people were praying outside at the hour of incense.
11: And there appeared to him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense.
12: And Zechari'ah was troubled when he saw him, and fear fell upon him.
13: But the angel said to him, "Do not be afraid, Zechari'ah, for your prayer is heard, and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you shall call his name John.
14: And you will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth;
15: for he will be great before the Lord, and he shall drink no wine nor strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb.

Much better idea Loge, let's have all non-Deists castrated. After all they don't believe in the Creator and as such don't believe in the true creation. Now that we have that out of the way, why don't you get real for a change....I liked you better when you were always putting out that bogus Hindu/Buddhist crap!

What do you mean by "saving their sexual energies" and " stop eating from the forbidden fruit" Do you mean stop having sex??
Is castration only for men, how is a woman castrated???? Are you saying only men are Atheists???
What a sad day, when there are a bunch of ball-less atheists walking around with a bunch of horny Christians.... Humanity at its best!!!!!

Love it!!!

Buddhist, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, ATHEISTS, DEISTS, etc., wouldn't be here if it wasn't for SEX.

And if there is a CREATOR, this one is hidden within the Sexual Energy.

But, you cannot understand or handle this truth!

Maybe I could if it were put forth in a coherent secular manner, instead of being wrapped in all the obsolete religious Male Bovine Manure -

salpingectomy
The fallopian tubes are long, thin tubes about as big around as a pencil that come from the side of the uterus. They function to collect and transport the egg from the ovary to the inside of the uterus, where it can implant and begin developing. The ends of the fallopian tubes, called "fimbria," collect the egg, while tiny hairlike fibers called cilia transport it towards the uterus. Fallopian tubes can develop a number of problems, including cysts, inflammation (infection), scar tissue (called adhesions), tubal ectopic pregnancies, and, in extremely rare situations, even cancer. Surgery on the tubes is usually undertaken through a laparoscope, a thin tube inserted into the belly button. The tubes can be tied when a woman does not want anymore children. Actually, the tubes are almost never just tied. They are often tied then cut, or burned, or clipped, or have constricting rings placed on them. Other surgical procedures can cut scar tissue, remove tubal pregnancies, open the ends of the tubes, and even tie them back together (although this last surgery does not always work and is very expensive).

Vasectomy
Sperms are produced in a man's testes and it is the sperms that enter the woman during sex to fertilise the egg to make her pregnant. When a man climaxes, the sperms travel through the two tubes, mix with semen and then comes out of the penis.
During vasectomy, the two tubes are cut and blocked to prevent the sperm from mixing with the semen to result in pregnancy. Without the sperm, a man would no longer impregnate a woman.
Dr Bentsi said the method currently practiced in the country is the Nonscapel Vasectomy (NSV), which was developed in China. Under this method, one does not need a scalpel to cut the skin. Rather, the doctor pierces the skin of the scrotum then gently stretches the opening to reach the tubes and blocks them.
When this is done, the doctor cuts the tubes and removes a small piece of each, cuts the ends and then ties them. Because the puncture is so small that stitches are not needed.
This type of method has fewer complications, is less painful and allows for early resumption of sexual activity after surgery and offers several advantages.
"Because this type of method does not require any incision in the scrotum, it is more comfortable and helps reduce a man's fears about vasectomy,"

Deuteronomy, chapter 23:
1: He that is wounded in the testicles, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

Well, I did not know about your religious PHOBIA!

With all due respect...... the best fruit is the forbidden fruit and i like my nad's (balls) left right were they are thank you very much .....( " YOU RELIGIOUS TYPES SCARE THE HELL OUT OF ME ")

and a big "high five" to Mr. Dollarhyde!

"The best fruit is the forbidden fruit"


5: For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like Gods, knowing good and evil ."

6: So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, and he ate.

7: Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked;..

" SORTED MATE ......US FORBIDDEN FRUIT LOVERS HAVE GOT TO STICK TOGETHER "

“SORTED MATE ......US FORBIDDEN FRUIT LOVERS HAVE GOT TO STICK TOGETHER " "

Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil ; and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever"

Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he was taken..

Hey! It is not a big deal. If you want my Bible, you can have it too!

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Do you actually believe that atheists should have their balls cut off or are you just pondering whether this is what god wants ?

I know nothing about religion but isn't that just saying if you have no balls you won't get into heaven rather than if you don't believe in heaven you must lose your balls ?

Which begs the question, if I was a perfect believer in every way and I was involved in some kind of industrial accident which resulted in me becoming separated from my testicles would I not be allowed in heaven ?

Here's a thought for you, the early church father, Origen castrated himself so that he would not participate in the sins of the flesh, maybe that's what all Christians should do! Just a joke folks, not serious at all!

kinda off subject.... what do u call a cowboy w. 90% of his brain missing? Castrated

So all I gotta do to get out of going to church on Sunday is get kicked in the balls?

It is true, you don't need to cut your jewls!

But, think about this:

God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply,

Many believers understand fruitful as an external action, though fruitful can be also understood as evolving or developing understanding of one’s own human nature.

Multiply, to have spiritual offspring.

For it is written, "Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear; break forth and shout, you who are not in travail; for the children of the desolate one are many more than the children of her that is married." Galatians, chapter 4: 27

That is a thought for all the true believers out there. No according to Loge you have to have them CUT OFF removed. You know.....hitting the high notes on a permanent basis!

You mean like Clay Aiken!

What do you mean, that maybe sex is the door and way to heaven?

Galatians, chapter 4
22: For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave and one by a free woman.

23: But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh , the son of the free woman through promise

In both cases, you need your balls!

I didn't really mean anything, I was asking you what you meant.

Since you ask I think it seems a bit harsh to lead a perfect god fearing life and then just before you're about to pop your clogs you get your pods caught in a meat grinder and lose your ticket to heaven along with your testicles.

perhaps a bit harsh but yeah the general idea is correct

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