Well Faeden let's try this again and without brainwashing.Ok first off I call LSD brainwashing anyways.heheh But LSD is just a mind substance. You take some you hallucinate. I think maybe with the hallucinations, fear of the unknown and unasureness of what was reality then maybe that could be what you assumed to be you connecting outside your being.
I have had plenty of experiences of something outside of my being and unknown without LSD. I think everyone does. The mind is so powerful! It can do anything. I mean taking LSD is like adding fuel to the fire.
I'am glad you had the experience u did and learned from it and stopped after that one bad trip whereelse others prefer being drugged up like zombies all the time till they die.---which is wasting a beautiful life. Anyways, maybe it wasn't that you were having experiences dealing with outside your being, but did you think that maybe God was giving you a message. Not trying to force that ideal that, that is what happened. But maybe? you have to be open to all possibilities that this is what could have happened. If you don't, then at least you know that something good came out of it right?? And that is you'll never do it again.

Ok, my 2 cents....


I think LSD is bad mmmkay?

Yes Kate, perhaps I was not open to possibilities, and I was to narrow minded

I’m glad at least some intelligent debate took place here. Thanks for all your posts.

I find people bizarre to be honest. Sometimes I realise just how lucky I am to be me Its a crazy old world.

All the best
Faeden

yeah ive done lsd an about everything else that didnt envole needles...im allergic to needles.
im not proud of it nor am i ashammed to mention im a recovering addict, i dont hold that against anyone cause every one has the right to be wrong/right.
for me ill say it was both good and right it shapped me into the person i am today,
and i also feel it opened me up to a whole diffrent side of spirituality i didnt know existed.
the first time i did lsd was great, the second time was not so great it was a very bad trip i split a hit with a friend and i didnt even get the biggest part of it, it would be the last substance i abused before i became proud and sober.

my trip litterly lasted for 3 days and seem to(in my mind) last an eternity.
i wont go into details of every thing that occourd that would for now be to time consuming.
but during the halucination/vision or what ever you'd call it. i had flash backs of my life as a child and one real bad reacuring dream(i still have it every now and then). in the flash back i was seven i clearly remember that, i woke up from the reaccuring dream i dont remember the time but it was late cause my mom and dad was up and my dad at the time worked third shift. i eased down stairs terriblaly affraid of the dream and my mom asked me what whats amatter?
i said i had another bad dream can i come down with you they said yes and as i started down the steps i ask my mom if i had any phone calls and she started laughing and said no are you expecting any i said yeah i "P"-"H"-"B"(those are names of my best friends ive just abreviated them seeing you all dont need to know ) it kinda freaks me out cause i wouldnt have met any of them until bout 4 years later....when i got to my mom i told her i wanted her to write some things down but she wouldnt do it she told me it was all a bad dream and for me to go back to sleep, so i did and when i woke up i was coming down off the trip.

my mom and dad both remember that night when i cofessed about all the drugs i had takenand they remebered vagly about the nightmare i had when i was a kid...
how ever they chalked it up to being crazy an coincadence and becomeing a boarder line schitzo..lol belive it or not but i am not insaine(i am sane by medical terminology) i belive it sounds crazy but i dont think its its entirerly impossible for this to happen..
i think may be when i was younger i might have had a vision of my future but blacked it out because it was tramatic and that the only way i can make sense of it.. dose it make sense to you ?

During my teens I experimented with LCD as well as other hallucinogins. Now while I did experience some weird fantastical things. I never doubted that it was the drug talking. Mind you I saw purple apes.

Altered voices, first off good for you on your sobriety I also have gone down that road and I understand how difficult it is to go through.

About your dream, I think it is highly likely that you may have blocked out something that was to painful. Strange things happen all the time which we will never be fully aware of. But yes, I do get what you are trying to say.

I think this topic is very interesting and caught my attention immediately. During my drug years (4 long years) I remember vividly many occurences which left me thinking about this very issue. Before using drugs I felt so empty and numb and I do know that the reason I enjoyed them so much was because I actually felt something. That may sound strange. When I was using my mind would think of things that seemed so weird on so many levels but really opened me up to my spirituality. Now before anyone takes this the wrong way, I am not saying I wouldn't of found it otherwise, nor do I recommend anyone using. Yes, it most definitely was just the substance altering the chemicals in my mind, however, I don't know if I would be where I am today if I didn't go down that path. I had many hallucinations and thought very strange things such as faeden described. After I would come down it made me think that perhaps these drugs were a "doorway?" Anyhow, it caused me to seriously try to find my beliefs and I took an interest in spirituality which I never had before. To this day however, I do not use and will NEVER again. I am finding my spirituality clean and sober.

PS Just wanted to say that I find this forum to be a great help to me in the search for my beliefs, and that I enjoy everyone's opinions.

Hi sprinkles

I agree drugs can be a doorways, but more than not they can be a doorway to not so good things, I was lucky I think, as some of the people I did drugs with have amounted to nothing, one of them even went from someone with everything in front of him good job and family, to having nothing but a room and a few possessions. Drugs can over power people so easily, so its best not to take the risk, but I know people are always going to. I think you can open doors through much safer means, such as meditation and lucid dreaming ect.

all the best
Faeden