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__Kratos__
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So, were ancient cats really rat-like animals?
SilverCougar
*cries horribly*

I had JUST posted likes explaining these little cretures... Not.. a week ago... >.< IIt was demanded of me.. and no one paid it any mind... WHY??

*bangs her head on a sharp corner* WHY do you people do this to me??

QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Apr 11 2005, 04:18 PM)
what do you think I've been doing ;P  I remember strange things.. and this was one of them from a biology course.  I'm trying to find a website...  patience.

Ok.. here is what I can find... screw unbias anything, because anyone can say that any site is bias or not.. that's a personal perseption.  I went with Scientific descriptions and explinations.

Basicaly the animal is known as Miacids. The beginner for all sorts of todays carnivors like canines, bears, cats, mongooses...

http://www.hevanet.com/jkl/miacids.html


http://www.sdnhm.org/fieldguide/fossils/miacids.html


http://7thfloormedia.com/projects/exwork/b...rden/evolve.htm

http://www.searchingwolf.com/wevolve.htm  (chart)

There... the links to back up my claim... though it's not so much as a claim as basic biology.
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mrmonsoon
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Apr 19 2005, 03:29 PM)
*cries horribly*

I had JUST posted likes explaining these little cretures... Not.. a week ago... >.< IIt was demanded of me.. and no one paid it any mind... WHY??

*bangs her head on a sharp corner* WHY do you people do this to me??
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Did you say something? tongue.gif

Just kidding, somes times I just can not help myself. devil.gif

Actually my cat (MOW, yes his name is MOW) and I send you love. wub.gif thumbsup.gif





ROGER
Its like in the first grade, learn by repeating crying.gif .
SilverCougar
Except, unlike school... people don't learn after they ask for proof...
hyperactive
QUOTE(ROGER @ Apr 19 2005, 02:38 PM)
Its like in the first grade, learn by repeating crying.gif .
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say it often enough an it becomes the truth! (any advertising agency can tell you that sad.gif )
__Kratos__
QUOTE(SilverCougar @ Apr 19 2005, 05:29 PM)
*cries horribly*

I had JUST posted likes explaining these little cretures... Not.. a week ago... >.< IIt was demanded of me.. and no one paid it any mind... WHY??

*bangs her head on a sharp corner* WHY do you people do this to me??


O sorry... unsure.gif
saucy
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SilverCougar
tcha Saucy... you have nothing relivant to add to this thread.. then why bother?
_hAiLO_
Its like an Atheist posting in a Christian forum...

Maybe cats did evolve from rat-like creatures...but its not my place to believe in that, and so I won't.
hyperactive
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Apr 19 2005, 06:57 PM)
Its like an Atheist posting in a Christian forum...

Maybe cats did evolve from rat-like creatures...but its not my place to believe in that, and so I won't.
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"not my place"? interesting wording. what exactly do you mean by that?
__Kratos__
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Apr 19 2005, 09:57 PM)
Its like an Atheist posting in a Christian forum...

Maybe cats did evolve from rat-like creatures...but its not my place to believe in that, and so I won't.
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I'm not atheist and I didn't know this whole forum was for christians... Here all this time I thought this was for all religions and beliefs. Funny how that works.
SilverCougar
Not your place only if you don't allow it hon. If you don't want to allow it, then fine. Atleast you don't insist to those who do that's it's not. I thank you for that.

And yes, Krotos... last I knew.. this was a forums for all faiths.
Ashley-Star*Child
It is for all faiths, and skepticism of it. One big happy explosion....or 'Big Bang' lol j/k

And yeah, you are right Hyperactive, I learnt a vey long time ago, promotion is everything. Like Britney Spears (or anyone popsicle...do like some of her songs though, it's got to me tongue.gif) being able to actually sing without mountains of studio help, spoon feed it enough, and people believe it. No matter what it is.

As for cats coming from rats...uh....interesting turn of evolutionary events....cat comes from rat, cat later eats rat...hmmm I'm not seeing the resmblance between a lion and a lab rat...but anyway.
_hAiLO_
Wow, I didn't expect to create such a controversy.

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"not my place"? interesting wording. what exactly do you mean by that?
In my place, the position I hold and the beliefs I concur with, do not expect me to believe that cats evolved from rat-like creatures. I am a Christian, I believe in creationism(but don't expect all Christians to believe in creationsim, some believ ein evolution). In my standings in the whole belief system, I hold my place to believe in what I want to.

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I'm not atheist and I didn't know this whole forum was for christians... Here all this time I thought this was for all religions and beliefs. Funny how that works.
I'm sorry if you misunderstood me. I was giving an example. I did not, in any way mean to proclaim this forum a Christian forum. This forum is very well welcome to all Atheists, Christians, other religous folk and anyone alike.

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Not your place only if you don't allow it hon. If you don't want to allow it, then fine. Atleast you don't insist to those who do that's it's not. I thank you for that.
I should be thanking you for your kind words original.gif . But that doesn't mean I will refuse to learn of other beliefs, I just merely choose to believe in something else.
mako
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I'm not atheist and I didn't know this whole forum was for christians... Here all this time I thought this was for all religions and beliefs. Funny how that works.

Kratos, you have to learn how the Christian mind works, if you say anything that they remotely preceive as against their beliefs, "POOF" you are an Evil Christ Hating Atheist, no matter what your personal beliefs are! I have even seen them accuse other Christians of being Atheists when they didn't agree with the mainstream dogma! w00t.gif grin2.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif

_hAiLO_
Not all minds are alike, mako.
hyperactive
QUOTE(mako @ Apr 20 2005, 03:41 AM)
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I'm not atheist and I didn't know this whole forum was for christians... Here all this time I thought this was for all religions and beliefs. Funny how that works.

Kratos, you have to learn how the Christian mind works, if you say anything that they remotely preceive as against their beliefs, "POOF" you are an Evil Christ Hating Atheist, no matter what your personal beliefs are! I have even seen them accuse other Christians of being Atheists when they didn't agree with the mainstream dogma! w00t.gif grin2.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif
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i too have witnessed this phenomenon.

religion breeds the binary brain: you are either one of us, or the enemy; Muslem or infidel; christian or athiest;.... if it wasn't so sad, it would be funny wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
_hAiLO_
Like I said, not everyone is alike. Some Christians have Muslim wives. Some Pagens have Athiest husbands. Many people don't see other peoples beliefs as what you call, an 'enemy'.
hyperactive
QUOTE(Hailo_hellFIRE @ Apr 20 2005, 03:35 PM)
Like I said, not everyone is alike. Some Christians have Muslim wives. Some Pagens have Athiest husbands. Many people don't see other peoples beliefs as what you call, an 'enemy'.
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true. i am not saying everyone is like that. however, the vocal ones sure are! As usual, it is the vocal and motivated minority that paint the picture of the majority.
Loge
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Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. So, I brought you bananas! rofl.gif
hyperactive
QUOTE(Loge @ Apr 20 2005, 03:38 PM)
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Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.  So, I brought you bananas! rofl.gif
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loge, is darwinism your new religion? /sarcasm

nobody with their senses intact would worship darwin, or darwinism. The same can be said of any man or idea put forth by a man. Too bad that simple reasoning is abandoned as soon as the man is perported to be a messenger of a higher being.

I am a god eater and I am hungery, so make me up a new one! thumbsup.gif wub.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif rofl.gif ph34r.gif innocent.gif
_hAiLO_
QUOTE(hyperactive @ Apr 20 2005, 03:37 PM)
true.  i am not saying everyone is like that.  however, the vocal ones sure are!  As usual, it is the vocal and motivated minority that paint the picture of the majority.
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Sorry for the misunderstanding...always happens dontgetit.gif . But I do agree that the minority, however possible it could be the majority that sets the reputation to their beliefs are the ones who speak to much...thats a good point original.gif .
Loge
QUOTE(hyperactive @ Apr 20 2005, 06:41 PM)
nobody with their senses intact would worship darwin, or darwinism.  The same can be said of any man or idea put forth by a man.  Too bad that simple reasoning is abandoned as soon as the man is perported to be a messenger of a higher being.

I am a god eater and I am hungery, so make me up a new one! thumbsup.gif  wub.gif  w00t.gif  w00t.gif  w00t.gif  rofl.gif  ph34r.gif  innocent.gif
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This is your new God that eventually will swallow you! thumbsup.gif wub.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif rofl.gif ph34r.gif innocent.gif
hyperactive
QUOTE(Loge @ Apr 20 2005, 03:56 PM)
QUOTE(hyperactive @ Apr 20 2005, 06:41 PM)
nobody with their senses intact would worship darwin, or darwinism.  The same can be said of any man or idea put forth by a man.  Too bad that simple reasoning is abandoned as soon as the man is perported to be a messenger of a higher being.

I am a god eater and I am hungery, so make me up a new one! thumbsup.gif  wub.gif  w00t.gif  w00t.gif  w00t.gif  rofl.gif  ph34r.gif  innocent.gif
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This is your new God that eventually will swallow you! thumbsup.gif wub.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif rofl.gif ph34r.gif innocent.gif
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nah... i defeated that beast years ago! cool.gif
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