What would happen to religion! The entire Basis in which God Created Earth as a special place would be ruined! Or we could change it to say that God created The Entire Universe and everything in it!!!!! Or we could say like the Greeks believe, there are more than one god, but that brakes the first commandment! What would happen it is so confusing!!!

nothing.. in the bible it does say that God created the universe... the firmament which became the sky and the heavens is space and such... God created everything in our reality... everything.... and if aliens were proven existent, then God's power would be expressed even greater than it is... creating more than one planet with inhabitants...

I am not religious, but for example, God created man-he never said he only created man on Earth.


God created all the creatures, he never said they all only existed on Earth....

In my opinion, the Bible has a few scriptures that support alien existance. So, it would do nothing to "ruin" my religion.

I think a lot of people will lose their faith as predicted.

You are right, many people already have. And many more will....

i like mrmonsoon and amalgamut's posts, and i think they are right... it never specifies in the bible where all the creatures are. just that he created them all.

God will allways be in religon. even if aliens are proven to be real.
like LOVER OF GOD said that would just prove he is mightier then most thought.

and it will just show the awesomeness and complexity of God... it may even turn some heads up to Him

At one time it was heresy to think the world was round or that the Earth revolved around the Sun. As soon as it was proven to be true, people had to reinterpret their belief systems. If there are Christians today that think they we are the only intelligent beings in the universe and they find out they we are not, then they will just go on to reinterpret their belief systems. Unless we actually get properly introduce to aliens and their technologies and their belief systems. Then we just get acculturated to the aliens' belief systems.

and what would happen, chrisv, if the aliens belief was the same, or similar, to the christian belief?

What verses are these?Or totally different or had none (With proof)?

its all a question, right? what if? what if the end times never comes? what if the AC never shows up? what if Jesus was not who he said he was? what if the sun died? what if? that is the question.. and u can ask that about anything... what if the sky turned pink? see?

Genesis 6:4 for one. Almost all of the book of 1Enoch talks about this matter as well.

or, people might start to worship the aliens and their advanced technology. Conversely, true believers might just agitate for a purge and slaughter of the "demonic (alien) monsters" in the name of god.

NONONONONO.. TRUE BELIEVERS WOULD WELCOME THEM AND TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY BELIEVE.. AND TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY ARE LIKE AND ALL THAT..

God would never want us to kill anything in his name. And those of us whos faith is stong in god we would never change our faith to the aliens.
i know i would not worship them.

I fear you are right.

This site has a strange mix of syncretic beliefs, dovetailing aliens and demons into one species, and ironically aliens and angels as one species too.

This is why I find this site so interesting. It is a mongrel of various unsubstantiated and irrational beliefs, i.e people looking for anything physical to legitimize their beliefs.

A floating light in the sky could just as be an angel to someone on this site, as it could be a wheat-field raiding UFO to another.

The real problem is critical thinking is missing to evaluate these truth claim, or even the inner-compulsion to believe without unsubstantiated faith.

AC ????

Are you talking about the "Sons of God"?How sure arer you on this? The original post ask what would happen to religion. Nothing about changing your religion.


EDIT: Fixed quotes

And QS, I think that is due to the fact that in the last decade or so, the PC crowd has pushed an agenda of 'valuing others opinions as if they had the weight of fact'. Too often, people spout the wildest allegations about <fill in the blank> and defend its validity by stating: "It's My Opinion!!"

Um, yeah. And don't tell me "its the sons of Seth" because that doesn' hold water with the rest of the text.

No that is not what I was going to say. Read the first chapter of Job. You will find another reference to the sons of God.

Adherence to critical thinking would easily see through the sophistry of yammering You are just being PC! The statement in itself is so broad that it means nothing.

Jmpd, you must Hate Freedom! LOL. Same sophistry.

Anyway, before we value someone opinion, we should evaluate it.

Conversly, when someone states to me It's just your opinion!!! I know I have beaten them and evaluated their position as false, regardless of what they hold to be truth or not. Basically screaming about one's opinion, it's the last gasp of a person in an indefensible position.

Maybe I missed it, but I didnt see where it referred to the sons of God.

EDIT// It doesnt mention that name in the NIV version. I will have to look at a different version.

Ok, got it. "Sons of God" a.k.a angels.....yeah I knew that.

So Zandore I'm not sure what you meant by your post.

it was in response to a post saying that the bible has some mention of aliens, it was an opinion.

There was a thread running a while ago that I posted the thought of what if God was an alien scientist and the angels was his assistants. Which I think is a good possibilityYes and some what yes. I was trying to find out where he was coming from.

Ok, sorry. I didn't understand what you meant.

everyone hug now.... aawwww.. how cute.

Careful there

how's comes?

Lets get back on topic.

Thank you zandore.

Yes, I beleive that if Aliens were real then I would have to agree with LOG that God created a universe with another planet with aliens outside our being. I beleive it could be possible. For my grandmother has been a christian her whole life, she loved everyone, never forcing her beleifs on others, she spoke with truth and love. She said she was abducted and when she was alive she would tremble and go weak from speaking of it. And let me tell ya, she wasn't feable and was a good healthy woman. For she died at the young age of 54 and was buried on my bday last yr. She was very wise and so if she said she was, then I beleive her. I beleive that possibly there is somthing out there. I think for the people that don't beleive in God that this would make them jump for joy for it could be an excuse to prove they're beleifs even more. But as far as Christians, then no I don't think the religion aspect would change much. Just the way we live our lives and and a global panic would be the biggest change.

If they had no conception of "sin", would you introduce this concept to them?

If so, would they need a savior? Would this savior be your Jesus? Would their savior be from their own people so to speak?

Or are they exempt because they are not human?

For some I think it would have a major religious impact, but for most that have a firm belief there would be little or no negetive effect.

well, their savior would be jesus, and i wouldnt introduce them to sin, only to what sin is, if they didnt already know, which i doubt would be the case...

As I postd before.

Really? V. interesting LOG.

First off, Jesus died for humanity as we are made in God's image, and says so in the bible that god gave his only son for us to be washed of sins and all that, so salvation doesn't apply to E.T. in this case. If so, find me a passage.

Despite that, let's presume for a moment that these Aliens are of a much more enlightened sentient life. They have better science and technology, better understanding of the universe, more effective ethics and how to practice subsequent virtues, and tell you in a philosophical discussion that they have rejected the notion of sin for any sentient creature of the universe because of this fuller understanding of nature and of sentience.

What would you say to them?

I'd be interested to see humans trying to enforce the fact on a super-advanced species that we are actually the superior beings, since god created us in his image, not them.

LOL depending on how they are... "Send by God!" or "Send by the Devil!"

What if they turn out like the greys or reptilian looking.

Smurfs.

Now, lets reverse the question. What if, in a few hundred years, WE develop the ability to travel accross the cosmos. We find a habitable, and inhabited planet of civilized non humans. They have their own cultures, morals and mores. They have long ago forsaken the notion of sin, and live peacefully among their various nations.

Would we be justified and 'moral' if we introduced our religious beliefs, and emotional baggage on them? Perhaps even force our views upon them to the point where we are destroying their culture in order to "save" them?

What say you? And please, in the spirit of the question, don't respond with the mathematical probobilities of finding intelligent life within a few hundred years; or that we don't have the tech to do it. We are engaging in a "what if...?" scenario.


Editted, because there is no "t" in 'our'.

well, the effects of aliens on religions could be any of the following:

1) people take the aliens AS gods, and worship them
2) people take the aliens AS creators, but accept them only as another species
3) the aliens prove there are no gods, some accept, the others declare the aliens the evil-ones!
4) knowledge of another intelligent species unites man, lets him see his own potential, and religion dies.
5) the religous take it as a sign to unite against a common enemy (knowledge), and bring about the destruction of humanity
6) aliens offer proof of what man calls "gods", the skeptics reject it, the religious are all too eager to get on bended knee. the aliens then kill the skeptics, and make a slave race of the believers.
7) aliens offer proof of what man calls "gods", the skeptics reject it, the religious are all too eager to get on bended knee. the aliens kill off the religious, and welcome man to the table as an equal.

Either way, they wouldn't be human, so i'd like to see how the bible explains a race of being even more intelligent than us, since they travelled across space to get here, yet we were the ones created in gods image. I think they would have a thing or two to say about that, .

Nothing would happen to religion. There are texts which deal with 'aliens' and they aren't angels.

It would be absolutely awesome to some people to know that aliens really do exist, and it would absolutely break the foundation loose from other people who really don't believe that God would create anything else besides us. For certain, it would cause everyone to re evaluate themselves in relation to the universe, and provide for an even larger perspective about our connection to each other.

It also might strike the fear into a lot of people who might think that aliens are just like the way they've been portrayed in hollowood movies.

I think there would various reactions, and not all of them good, and not all bad.

Nothing would have happened to religion since it's all based on personal interpretation. Those Christians who don't believe in aliens would simply reevaluate their beliefs and move on. And the new generation of believers would act like nothing ever happened and aliens were always part of the religion. Organized religions simply make too much money to allow its followers to divert their faith for any reason what so ever. From the Old Testament's strict laws, to the New Testament's "all you need is faith," and to todays acceptance of homosexuals as pastors, it has been constanly evolving to attract more and more people and become a giant money-making machine that it is today.

I agree with you there.

In fact, people on this site have already incorporated them into their quasi-religious beliefs.



Regardless of proof, funny how we, humanity, has to prove that aliens exist eh?


I think you stress money to much, its a means to power, but not power inself.

Power for organized religion is in the dominion over all aspects of human expression, thought, and lifestyle.

Simply put, it's worldview subsumes and crushes all.