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Antarctic Mystery Lake and Deadly Creatures
By Joseph Held - http://www.informantnews.com




This is part of a conversation I had with my friend Bill, a down to earth ex-air force man who's seen enough things to know we are not alone. Anyway, this has to do with Antarctica, it's kinda spooky, so I thought I'd share it.



Joe: Haven't heard anything more about Vostok lately. It's been hushed up.

Bill: Yeah! I noticed that. When I was working with old navy divers working on Ice Harbor dam I heard an interesting story. They were in the Antarctic diving in a secret location way below the ice. They wouldn't say where. They had one buddy that was deep and panicked when something came at him. Whatever it was got him. They said it was not a whale or shark because it was in a fresh water lake. Inland. These guys had been professional divers their whole life. Made me realize that these guys were either diving in Vostok or there is a similar place somewhere else in the Antarctic that is secret. They said they refused to work any more at that location and the Navy flew them out, debriefed, and discharged them. But it was supposed to be quite close to McMurdo station and that is a long way from Vostok. I listened real good. As you know stories are what keep me going. Yeah! They were diving at the dam working for me. I was the Foreman They were doing the underwater work on the new spillways. When they were out of the water decompressing I would chat with them and this story came out. Yeah! It rang my bell at the time. In light of the Vostok story it has renewed my interest in the conversation. Strange goings on at the bottom of the world. They said that the guy underwater said a few words. "It's horrible I don't have a chance!" and "Don't come down here." before he screamed. I would like to know the real story on that one. You know that these sorts of things contain only a grain of the real facts. But these guys were so serious. And they were a couple of real serious first rate people. I'm sure about the fatality they were too serious about that.

Joe: The facility wasn't the McMurdo station, but somewhere else?

Bill: No Lake Vostok is way up in the central part of Antarctica in the region the Russians have claimed. McMurdo is on the western coastline. Somewhere close to McMurdo in fresh water. I know that there is no such known place. But I'm remembering them saying something about fresh water in caves. And that it was secret. I remember the conversation started with me talking about Ham Radio and how my favorite radio contact had been with McMurdo station on CW. These two guys were real interested.


openmind1963
could the divers have been oxygen deprived,which led them to hallucinate?mixing those gases to dive with,can be tricky i've heard.
mr_halo

who knows whats down there?

i mean creatures can live in these frozen oceans and temperatures...

plus many creatures in the ocean have yet to be discovered....

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Apocalyptic Cryptid
well anything could be in there.. i have no doubt they saw somting.. i mean.. there are so many undiscovered Aqua-Creatures
mr_halo
QUOTE(Apocalyptic Cryptid @ Apr 20 2005, 11:20 PM)
well anything could be in there.. i have no doubt they saw somting.. i mean.. there are so many undiscovered Aqua-Creatures
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maybe there is creatures that hibernate most of the time due to the temperatures, but come out sometimes, this could explain why they aren't seen very often...

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charnelhound
hey it's like predator hell and hot water
cor_raven
Interesting, but inconclusive, i doubt there could be predators in the center of antartica, what would there be for them to eat? besides divers. Not alot of plant growth in ice cold frozen caves, and not any other animals likely
Conspiracy
QUOTE(mr_halo @ Apr 20 2005, 05:56 PM)
QUOTE(Apocalyptic Cryptid @ Apr 20 2005, 11:20 PM)
well anything could be in there.. i have no doubt they saw somting.. i mean.. there are so many undiscovered Aqua-Creatures
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maybe there is creatures that hibernate most of the time due to the temperatures, but come out sometimes, this could explain why they aren't seen very often...

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ya i agree
Redneck
Actually there is a fierce predator in Antarctica - the Leopard Seal. Incidentally, they have a very eerie, reptilian appearance. They have been known to attack and kill people. One of these could have certainly migrated to an inland lake, unlike a whale or shark.

Leopard Seal Kills Scientist in Antarctica

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MJB222
That thing about the seals is creepy, I thought seals were cute and friendly. mellow.gif

That storie that no one knows what happend is also creepy. blink.gif
Cendari
This is the first time I've seen or heard of a leopard seal. It's like the pirrahna (sp)? of the Antarctica. What's scary from the article is that the seal isn't curious just to be curious. It may be sizing up its future prey.

Antarctica is another place I won't be going to see. ph34r.gif
ROGER
I had trouble with the topic story so I read an article from" Universe Today"
July-13-2004 addition. the ASSUMED fresh water Lake" VOSTOK" is covered by 3700 to 4300 Metres of Ice. As of last year they didn't even have core samples that deep yet. Scientist are looking for other way to get to it for water samples. From radar and imaging the lake appears to be a closed system.

I really don't think a diver has been in the lake yet. The Women killed by the Tiger Seal was in the ocean and is the second person attacked.
ROGER
alien.gif I also checked out the " Informantnewws.com" Sight. Not a great source of "NEWS" but it looks amusing. Some of the Really Bad Science I can use on other treads, were truth is not that important. rolleyes.gif
Vallheru
QUOTE(cor_raven @ Apr 21 2005, 02:10 AM)
Interesting, but inconclusive, i doubt there could be predators in the center of antartica, what would there be for them to eat? besides divers. Not alot of plant growth in ice cold frozen caves, and not any other animals likely
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I tend to agree.
If you look for a logical explanation, you'd be hard pressed to find one. As Cor said, not much life around in the first place, thus, no big predators. Unless they wait all these years for a diver to come from the sky!! (unlikely).

On the other hand, if an unknown something is lurking around there....who knows then? I'm certain all Lovecraft fanatics can think of a lot of creatures that could be there!!!

As to the leopard seal, other mammals are known to attack humans from time to time (sperm whales-orcas) when felt threatened, so no big surprise here. If the poor girl tried to play with off-springs or went close to the nest....who knows....I'm certain though that humans are not part of their diet....
The Roswell Man
i suspect the case about the leopard seal seems to be as dramatic as shark attack.
hopefully media hysteria and misconception wont take hold, and more is studdied about these creatures and understand whether they see us as prey or a threat.
Johnsy
QUOTE(The Roswell Man @ Apr 21 2005, 12:15 PM)
i suspect the case about the leopard seal seems to be as dramatic as shark attack.
hopefully media hysteria and misconception wont take hold, and more is studdied about these creatures and understand whether they see us as prey or a threat.
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The leopard seal is a horrible animal i remember reading a newspaper retelling the events of a seal attacking a young biologist.

it seems logical
AnimangaBloodThorn
QUOTE(Johnsy @ Apr 21 2005, 07:34 AM)
The leopard seal is a horrible animal i remember reading a newspaper retelling the events of a seal attacking a young biologist.

it seems logical
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Not horrible. Just surviving. disgust.gif
Johnsy
QUOTE(AnimangaBloodThorn @ Apr 21 2005, 03:13 PM)
QUOTE(Johnsy @ Apr 21 2005, 07:34 AM)
The leopard seal is a horrible animal i remember reading a newspaper retelling the events of a seal attacking a young biologist.

it seems logical
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Not horrible. Just surviving. disgust.gif
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yep you are totally right. Sorry
AnimangaBloodThorn
That's alright. yes.gif
XSAS

Leopard seals are proabbly just defending their territory.
mr_halo
indeed there have been cases of leopard seals attacking and killing divers, mostly by pulling them under, i guess these creatures could explain the encounter...

and seeing one of those creatures up close while underwater would certainly be scary, i mean in that photo it looks like a monster....

i mean look at it unsure.gif creepy

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BiffootRoxSox
wow rednecks first pic sort of looks like nessie if u didnt no it was a seal
Undefined_innocence
Someone mensioned that a predator wouldnt live there because of lack of food. But... look at snakes.. the dont eat very often at all, but when they do... they stock up. If something is down there then it could be just like that.. Lazy and slow moving untill it has a reason to move.. like.. Feeding time.
Vallheru
QUOTE(Undefined_innocence @ Apr 22 2005, 01:07 AM)
Someone mensioned that a predator wouldnt live there because of lack of food. But... look at snakes.. the dont eat very often at all, but when they do... they stock up. If something is down there then it could be just like that.. Lazy and slow moving untill it has a reason to move.. like.. Feeding time.
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Well, partially true. Snakes live in areas where their food is abudant or at satisfactory levels. But in a secret frozen lake? What can be living there? And snakes and other cold-blooded ones need a meal every month or so....

Anyhow, what could have happened there, if the story is true of course, is probably a type of a big reptilian and not any seal. A seal might be able to drag a small young female biologist but an experienced diver with knife and all....on the other hand, a knife is totally useless against a crocodile's hide....just a logical theory, nothing more.
Vallheru
QUOTE(Vallheru @ Apr 22 2005, 08:23 AM)
QUOTE(Undefined_innocence @ Apr 22 2005, 01:07 AM)
Someone mensioned that a predator wouldnt live there because of lack of food. But... look at snakes.. the dont eat very often at all, but when they do... they stock up. If something is down there then it could be just like that.. Lazy and slow moving untill it has a reason to move.. like.. Feeding time.
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Well, partially true. Snakes live in areas where their food is abudant or at satisfactory levels. But in a secret frozen lake? What can be living there? And snakes and other cold-blooded ones need a meal every month or so....

Anyhow, what could have happened there, if the story is true of course, is probably a type of a big reptilian and not any seal. A seal might be able to drag a small young female biologist but an experienced diver with knife and all....on the other hand, a knife is totally useless against a crocodile's hide....just a logical theory, nothing more.
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Damn....I must be drunk....I am a sceptic and believer together....I offer a dispute and then cancel it myself!!! original.gif original.gif

N-droe
Hmm... this seal sounds like a very good candidate to me.

I did a little search on the net and found that they eat mainly penguins and krill. So this makes it easy for them to survive on Antarctica, since there are penguins enough over there. Baleen Whales live in arctic and antarctic regions too because they eat krill and there's also a lot of that around there.

And that seal would certainly be able to attack and kill a full grown diver. It attacks rapidly to surprise it's victim and hides very well when hunting. Then it appears in the way seen in that picture. The person scares, is disoriented and has no chance. Even if the human wasn't surprised he still wouldn't stand a chance I think.

The point wron ghere is that they're talking about a freshwater lake. Now I know seals swim up rivers so that's possible. But I read somewhere that freshwater krill (yes, that exists) isn't as rich in numbers as saltwater relatives. Second, there wouldn't be much penguins there since it's under the ice. Perhaps this lake isn't covered with ice (entirely), since it's not the lake near vostok, and it's closer to the shores of antarctica. So there will be penguins to feed on normally and the occasional human too.

Just some thoughts...
soulswordsman
i could be a shark, kraken or no a giant demon snake?
Calico2005
QUOTE(soulswordsman @ Apr 22 2005, 02:28 PM)
i could be a shark, kraken or no a giant demon snake?
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Yeup... theres your answer, a demon snake... definently a demon snake... yes.gif
mr_halo
QUOTE(BiffootRoxSox @ Apr 22 2005, 12:51 AM)
wow rednecks first pic sort of looks like nessie if u didnt no it was a seal
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i can see that...

if you labelled the photo as "nessie", many would believe it....

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jobot37
im really feeling the demon snake answer.........

but no really i find the seal much more believable, but do they actually live in fresh water? i thought seals were more seafaring, i suppose it could have just moved inland, but i dont see why it would have
Rye Guy
How could it be a giant reptile if it is in antartica? How could a cold blooded animal live in a lake covered in ice in the coldest place on the planet?
mr_halo
QUOTE(Rye Guy @ Apr 23 2005, 01:58 AM)
How could it be a giant reptile if it is in antartica? How could a cold blooded animal live in a lake covered in ice in the coldest place on the planet?
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maybe its a giant mammal, some sort of undiscovered whale/seal etc...

these creatures could survive in those conditions, but i see your point a reptile could not, good point thumbsup.gif

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informantnews
Wow, I'm glad to see so much debate and interest in my post! Thanks for all the comments. These are my favorite type of stories, creepy I guess is why.

I'd just like to ad, though we all know there is no way to prove a story like this, this is a good story all by itself. However, My friend Bill, whom I've know for several years, is a 63 year old, ex Air Force Radar man, with a wealth of technical knowledge in many areas. He is a no nonsense, prove it to me first kind of guy. I believe this story is true.

Navy divers are the best. Also, serious, no nonsense, VERY professional people. They know their environments, their capabilities, and know how to push the limits. My friend Bill pointed out that they were very distraught, and still very upset at the loss of their buddy, even though this happened many years before. Lending creedence to their story. The lake was FRESH WATER, and NOT lake Vostok. So the shark theory is done. The guy who died said "It's horrible!!! Don't come down here!!!" then apparently was gone that fast. Giving me the idea that what ever killed him did it super fast. He wouldn't have panicked, and said what he did if it were any known species he was familiar with, he would have at the very least, gave a quick report of what was attacking him, IF he was familiar with what it was! Also, the guys Bill was talking to, the EX-Navy divers, were frightened enough by the whole event that they quit, and were taken and debriefed. Guys like this don't just quit a mission because of sharks, or killer seals, and at the time of the conversation with Bill, were still involved in dangerous underwater construction for private contractors.

I've seen enough weird stuff that defies explaination in my life to know theres some weird sh*t out there and right here on Earth. On top of that, I've known, and met so many others who've seen and experienced many things also, all of whom have no reason to make up tales. Hypothetically, minus out 99% of all these people just to say those had made it up, and you still have 1% that are true! (Ridicule my stats if you want, but it makes sense to me yes.gif) Anyway, check out my site, even if some of the science is flawed. If you dig into the deepest levels, and check through the mass of data there, you just might be surprised to find some more very interesting things. Peace!
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