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Ryo Ohki
I already asked that.
GoddessWhispers
QUOTE(Ryo Ohki @ Dec 9 2006, 01:13 PM) [snapback]1455655[/snapback]

I already asked that.

Did you!? I did not see the question in this thread. huh.gif
Ryo Ohki
It was a thread in spirituality religion and beliefs.
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(Moondoggy @ Dec 8 2006, 05:00 PM) [snapback]1455535[/snapback]
Would love to read the original story, could you reference it please?


It is called Bibleorigins.net But be warned that the site owner takes a purely secular and atheistic view of these subjects, unlike me. But there can be no doubt when you read it that this far older Sumerian story is where the Adam, Tree of Life , and talking Serpent comes from. And as you will see, the Serpent (dragon) wants to help Adam and works for God.
GoddessWhispers
Speaking of dragons, I happened upon this article looking for wallpapers ,utilizing the "dragons" keyword.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/etc/ddl/ddl14.htm
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(GoddessWhispers @ Dec 11 2006, 06:38 AM) [snapback]1457926[/snapback]
Speaking of dragons, I happened upon this article looking for wallpapers ,utilizing the "dragons" keyword.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/etc/ddl/ddl14.htm

At face value it seems a scholarly article, but it is not. Being a devout Christian, he does not want to acknowledge that Seraphim in Hebrew means fiery flying serpents, and that both the ancient jews and christians translated this word to drakon (dragon). Also, all of the Sumerian stories on which the Hebrew theology was based, are filled with dragons. He probably doesn't realize that the same Seraphim that surround the throne of God in one Book, are creatures he would think are simply poisonous snakes sent by God in another.
GoddessWhispers
Fascinating. I read a book years ago wherein the ancient Sumerians were claimed to have owed their genesis to an alien race called the "Nefillim" . However, because this is all new to me about fiery flying serpents, I conducted a yahoo search on keywords:seraphim's translation Hebrew fiery flying serpents
and found these links.

In all the references to Seraphim's I don't see that the fiery is indicative of the translation meaning a full, fiery flying serpents. http://www.answers.com/topic/seraph Rather it is said to denote, "Fiery" only. hmm.gif

However, in the course of a Yahoo, this article seems right up that alley. blush.gif http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/png/crsarticle.pdf
JMPD1
Maybe "god favored" Abel because it was Abels descendants that wrote, or told, the story.........


"history is written by the victors"
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(GoddessWhispers @ Dec 11 2006, 09:03 AM) [snapback]1458053[/snapback]
Fascinating. I read a book years ago wherein the ancient Sumerians were claimed to have owed their genesis to an alien race called the "Nefillim" . However, because this is all new to me about fiery flying serpents, I conducted a yahoo search on keywords:seraphim's translation Hebrew fiery flying serpents
and found these links.

In all the references to Seraphim's I don't see that the fiery is indicative of the translation meaning a full, fiery flying serpents. http://www.answers.com/topic/seraph Rather it is said to denote, "Fiery" only. hmm.gif

However, in the course of a Yahoo, this article seems right up that alley. blush.gif http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/png/crsarticle.pdf


You will probably like my book as it examines virtually every aspect of dragon legends, pariticularly those related to the bible, and the other religions related to the Bible.

Yes, you generally will not find the Seraphim identitiied as flying serpent and dragons on Christian based websites, because of the identification with Satan, but it is really an undeniable fact, as I believe was demonstrated in the Satan thread. They are really quite stupid in this matter. The ancient Jewish and Christian scholars translated the word Seraphim to Dragon, and their artwork depicted these dragons around the throne of God just as the Seraphim are described. The Bible also indicates Satan is an important Heavenly creature, and also called a dragon, exactly like the rest of the Seraphim. But modern Christians seem to have the idea that if Satan is a dragon, the "good" seraphim cannot be dragons too, so they have come up with all of the convoluted and improbable explanations to explain why the same "seraphim" are fiery flying serpents in the 'book of Numbers, but humanoid, "cartoon" angels in the book of Isaiah.

The Ptersosaur article has some good info in it, but this guy's agenda is completely different again. He is trying to say the dragons of the Bible are simply prehistoric pterosaurs, to prove "young earth creationism" and doesn't want to confront the issue that in Isaiah they are the highest heavenly creatures.
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