Here's a question, if Adam and Eve were the only humans on earth at first, and they had 3 sons, how did their generation continued to reproduce?

They had more offspring than just 3 sons, the Bible only describes some of the people. But they all slept around with others daughters, and their sisters. But back then, God allowed this because it had to happen in order to increase the population for his plans of the future.. later God introduced Family and it's laws.

So incest was expected back then, but now it's a sin? Why?

How do you know about these other people if they are not described in the Bible?

They are not described specifically I meant, by name.
"When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. 4 After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters."

It wasn't incest back then. Then, women's priority was to bear children, to be with her husband. Man was to work and make his food or things to exchange for food, and be with his wife. God has his purpose for bringing in his laws when he does. This was way before the ten commandments, and before family was even a word.

But we are still talking about brothers and sisters having sex with each other, and then their sons and daughters having sex with each other or their parents, right? I wonder if there were any genetical problems.

It's true, they had sex with their brothers and sisters, and however it worked. But people back then lived for a much longer time, so they had more and more offspring. But after a while, God made men only live to about 120 at most. If there were genetical problems, I can't tell you, haha, because none of that stuff is written.

According to Genesis God had already made Man and Woman on the 6th Day - long before he set about making Adam. Doesn't say how many he made but no doubt by the time Adam and Eve had been chucked out of the Garden of Eden there were thousands of humans wandering the Earth

Essan, the first part of Genesis is the creation. When it talks about Adam and Eve, it goes back a step to where God created man to give details.

"When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens- and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no man to work the ground, but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground- the LORD God formed the manfrom the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. "

Wait, what's this? Adam was not the first man? What about the whole "original sin" of the mankind?

Mmmmm, the orgies they must have had... just like in Sodom and Gomorrah!

hmmmm....a theory of an ancient philosopher ?
Take this theory of 20th century scipherel.
God took millions of years to perfected the anatomy of human being.

loadsa codswollop

where did black people, and chinese people and asian people come from?

no such thing as adam and eve

Since this whole gig is nothing more than mythology stolen from older Semite cultures, by the Hebrew Temple scribes when they wrote the majority of the OT in 569 BCE, it remains nothing more than a fairy tale, believed only by the faithful or simple minded! Yes scipherel, I agree with your take on the matter!

Black and chinese people came from when the people tried building that tower of babylon to reach heaven. and god struck the tower down and split they're toungues and race so they wouldn't be of the same race and wouldn't speak the same language so couldn't communicate with each other as a lesson, so that they may not build the tower again.

How could they possibly build a tower to reach heaven??? We can fly into space and we still cant reach heaven!!! Is this for complete morons? WTF

The story is symbolic. There wern't really an Adam and Eve, there was no tower to heavan. It represents the birth and temptation of man.

well next time u say you don't beleive in adam and eve or the tower then remember it's hard to have an opinion on the bible when you dont beleive in it right or don't follow it??

Let me give ya advice dear, you can't question something you don't have the whatever to read or find out yourself. if you wanna know all this stuff then all you gotta do is look it up in the bible. they built the tower cuz they wanted to reach heaven. it speaks somewhere in bible that they were numb and didn't know anybetter. i beleive it even says that a angel went and told them not to and they disobeyed god. they did it like a test to god to prove his existence cuz if they could reach heaven and there was a god then they could be like him or something like that. if i ever get the time to look it up then i'll post it up. anywyas it went something like that. they disobeyed god and they were testy little people.

Tower of Babel - Genesis 11

verse 4 - "Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves..."

In other words, their current status wasn't good enough for them. They wanted to be like God.

Im sorry but how exactly does "Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves..."
translate into "They wanted to be like God?"

Many Kings and pharaohs made themselves great cities with great monuments and actually demanded to be worshiped as gods, why didnt God intervene then? And how does the whole FREE will apply to God not letting people do what they want to??

Thanks for finding that or remembering that. I thought it was something like they wanted to be like God and to reach to the heavens. they were testy little people! eheheh

because it states they wanted to be like God. look it up instead of questioning so many things that you won't take the time to find out. if you are so curious and wanna question so much then look it up dear. just open the bible up. it will give you every answer you wanna know..

tower my arse

just another load of codswallop

how ppl can believe these things is totally beyon dme

you can't questions somethings existence when you don't have the intellect to open yourself up to everything and everyone. you don't have to follow god. just be open that he could be true and be open to everyone elses beleifs.

i am open to things, just not things that reek of bull

my mum is an old school catholic

taught by nuns etc

a priest at her school even told her that the bible was merely "fables" made up to entice people into their religion and to give stories with a meaning in order to help ppl figure out their problems

I have several problems with the adam and eve story.

First in genesis it says (basically) God created man and woman, blah, blah, blah.

Right after that it says (basically) God created Adam and he was lonely, so he took a rib and created Eve.

Well, which is it, did he create them together(at the same time) or did he make Adam and then Eve from his rib.

Now, as for genetic diversity, even if they had 3 sons and 3 daughters, it would not provide enough diversity to work well. Look at areas where people interbred with family members, they become small, deformed and tend to have many genetic diseases.
I have not even touch on the part about insest-a sin...................

Why didn't God intervene with othe rulers and kings and pharaoh's? Only God can answer that one. I can't speak for him in this matter.

The ancient world universally agreed that the abode of God (heaven) was in the sky. By wanting their tower to reach the heavens (sky), they wanted to get to God by their own means. Ergo, be like God themselves.

a priest told her that. well that outta tell u something kiddo that the priest is a liar, lukewarm chrisitan, and hypocrite. which don't make him a good follower of something he lives for yet he deny's the beleifs in which he follows. i hope he's smart enough to know that blasphemy. why follow something and spend your life around something you don't beleive. now that is the only load of codswallop i see here.

That is the most ludicrous thing I have ever read, you are actually buying into a story stolen from the religion of the city of Ugarit (destroyed 300 years before Moses supposedly led the Exodus). Did you know that in the original version the God’s name was Baal? LMAO!


Typically Christian waffle and tap dance, seems like they would learn something new!

Here, entire Genesis 11, now point me to the verse which says they wanted to be like God.

11:1
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

11:2
And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

11:3
And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

11:4
And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

11:5
And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

11:6
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

11:7
Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

11:8
So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

11:9
Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

11:10
These are the generations of Shem: Shem was an hundred years old, and begat Arphaxad two years after the flood:

11:11
And Shem lived after he begat Arphaxad five hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.

11:12
And Arphaxad lived five and thirty years, and begat Salah:

11:13
And Arphaxad lived after he begat Salah four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.

11:14
And Salah lived thirty years, and begat Eber:

11:15
And Salah lived after he begat Eber four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.

11:16
And Eber lived four and thirty years, and begat Peleg:

11:17
And Eber lived after he begat Peleg four hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters.

11:18
And Peleg lived thirty years, and begat Reu:

11:19
And Peleg lived after he begat Reu two hundred and nine years, and begat sons and daughters.

11:20
And Reu lived two and thirty years, and begat Serug:

11:21
And Reu lived after he begat Serug two hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters.

11:22
And Serug lived thirty years, and begat Nahor:

11:23
And Serug lived after he begat Nahor two hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.

11:24
And Nahor lived nine and twenty years, and begat Terah:

11:25
And Nahor lived after he begat Terah an hundred and nineteen years, and begat sons and daughters.

11:26
And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.

11:27
Now these are the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot.

11:28
And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees.

11:29
And Abram and Nahor took them wives: the name of Abram's wife was Sarai; and the name of Nahor's wife, Milcah, the daughter of Haran, the father of Milcah, and the father of Iscah.

11:30
But Sarai was barren; she had no child.

11:31
And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.

11:32
And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.

what a load of poop

a lot of people who believe in and follow god dont believe that the bible is all truth

Just because it was a priest that said this doesn't make it universally true. That is just one person's opinion. Just like your answers are just one person's opinion. and just like my answers are one person's opinion.

You don't have to agree with any particular answer, but to scream "That's bull crap" just because you don't/won't/can't consider the possibility of it being true is just plain close-minded and ignorant.

in order to believe i n the christian God, u have to believe the bible is ALL TRUE!

Context my friend. Context.

Reach unto heaven. They wanted to reach heaven on their own. Put God out of the picture.

do u eck as like

my mum believes in god

but she doesnt believe that everything in the bible is true

stories change as years go by, things get twisted, left out, added...chinese whispers

how can you follow God and not follow his word. that is denying God's good word. i'am sorry but if you don't beleive in something then it's hard to comprehend this stuff dear. but no you dont live a life as a priest and not beleive in God's word. The bible is his living testimony for everyone to hear. I guess then that the priest don't beleive in the commandments or noah or adam and eve and jesus. if he's saying bible is load of crap then he is denying his faith and denying god's word. god says you judge a person by fruit they bare, well he's got purple apples and blue oranges.

Appp-tpcal-chooo. Excuse me.



Ok, which one is it, they wanted to GET to God or BE like God? Nevermind, please answer my previous question instead. Aren't we suppose to have a free will? Why did he intervene?

like i sed tho...is it the good word of god?

things change over the years

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yes it is the good word. but if you don't follow god then you can't opinionate the beleif of his word. now can you?

of course i can opinionate the belief of his word

thats like sayin if u dont believe in aliens, u cant have an opnion on them!

like i said, maybe there is a god, but i dont believe that the bible is gods work WORD for WORD

The thing with Chinese whispers is that you go around the room in a period of say 15 minutes and try to learn the whisper and pass it on. Scrolls, stories and the like are learnt by heart over a generation. If there's a mistake, people will pick it up. and even if they don't....

Have you ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? They were scrolls of the Bible found, strangely enough, near the Dead Sea, which pre-dated previous copies of the Bible by well over a thousand years.

Scholars, upon finding this were amazed at how similar the two were.

Granted this isn't "hard proof" that the Bible is the same today as it was two thousand years ago, but hey, it's close.

If the Bible is inspired by God, it stands to reason that it would pass the test of time.

not neccessrily

there is always someone out there who wants to dramatise a real event.......

maybe someone was so devoted to god, they wanted to glorify him even more by making the bible more....for want of a better word....."juicy"

have u ever read the old old bibles? u know, the ones that the catholic families have? that are like a bizilion years old??? my great grandma has one, i aint catholic so i dont get to have it, but she has one and it is like over a hundred years old, she had it when she was a kid, and her great grandma had it when she was a kid, it says the same thing, different writing style, as the bibles of today say.

Do you know that the Bible is a compilation of selected works by humans commanded to be put together by Constantine? A lot of books did not make it into the Bible simply because HUMANS chose not to include them in.

Do you believe that God is a loving and merciful God, and at the same time, that he killed, no not killed, MURDERED, every firstborn son in Egypt in Exodus?

Get to God, be like God. The answer - both.

Free will. We do have free will. There are also consequences. The difference is that at Babel the consequences were immediate - their languages were confused. The consequences for us may not be so immediate - "it is every man's right to live once, and after that to face judgement" (Romans).

We will have to account for our actions eventually, whatever we do.

Of all the people who could say that, I knew it;d be you.

I'm a liberal christian. You're clearly a fundamentalist. Not beleiveing the bible fundamentally doesnt make me any less of a christian and doesnt mean I don't follow and obey the teachings of the bible properly.

Get your facts right before you start calling me a bad christian.

Suppose I were to say that on September 12 2002, two busses crashed into the World Trade Centre, driven by Australian tourists on a field trip.

Would you believe me????

Of course you wouldn't. We all know what happened that day.

If there were changes, people would immediately spot them - they were current events at the time. And if they were changed at a later date, then only some manuscripts would be different. not all.

y do u keep sayin that? its not hard to have an opinion on it at all

u sayin u cant have an opinion on somethin u dont believe in?

so if u dont believe in ghosts u cant say "that cant b a picture of a ghost because....."

or if you dont believe in aliens u cant say " aliens dont extist because..."

get a grip

we know what happened that day due to media/television/newspapers etc

in those days, there was no way for people all over the world to know for sure something had happened as there was no sure proof apart from eye witness accounts!

WOW. Immeadiate consequences of the free will... on earth... even before the tower was complete... wow. So much for the free freakin will then, EH?

It's too bad God doesn't stop criminals right before they are about to kill or rape someone. You know, immeadiate consequences...