Of course. That's what the apocrypha is - the writings that were left out. However, the books left out are primarily (not exclusively) from New Testament times.

To be fair, I haven't read the entire Apocrypha yet, but while there are some writings that may be useful in the Bible, on the whole they do not agree in a lot of way with what the Bible has said in the Old Testament. Thus the conclusion that they do not belong.

In any case, the omission of books does not detract from the truth (or otherwise) of the Bible. If i read a book written today about a particular Biblical topic and it doesn't contradict the Bible, then, hey, why not use it. If it contradicts then it obviously doesn't belong on the same reading list.

In those days, the whole world meant the whole Roman world alone, which is where the manuscripts came from. And people would have known of the events.

walken, i really don't appreciate that nasty pm you sent me. only thing i said was it's hard to have an opinion on something you don't follow or don't beleive in. would anyone call that bashing. if that is bashing then everyone that has said something mean to me should be expelled off the site. i don't appreicate the threat either. be a man and take it. i didn't say anything other than you can't opinionate something . i mean isn't you saying that adam and eve aren't real, isn't that bashing my beleifs cuz it goes against what i think?? i mean common, i bashed you no more than you did me

my friend, have u READ the apocrypha??? have u READ the gospels of mary, andrew, phillip, or judas??? have u READ anything about the council of Nicea or Constantine?

so ur saying that if there was no such thing as the media and something happened in ur town center tomorro.....that u didnt witness.....and someone wrote down what had happened.....even if it sounded a bit off the wall....u would whole heartedly believe it?

again....what a load of plop

i just dont get y u keep sayin that

how did you know it be me. isn't that judging. i never called you a bad christian. i didn't even know you were a chirtian cuz only thing i've seen you say is how you don't beleive what some of us beleive. when someone deny's something without telling they're motives then it leaves it open for people to figure that you don't beleive in god..right? and hwo did you know it'd be me?? cuz i've never had a problem with you till now except for you accusing me and someone else on the tolerance post of flirting with each other...noooo i dont' think so!

Excuse me? I have a copy of that PM right here.



Yes. Very nasty.

No, because I clearly respected your beleifs. I did not challenge your faith, indirectly accuse you of ignorance then tell you your beleifs were wrong.

NOBODY in this world has the right to EVER call ANYONE a bad christian... judge not lest ye be judged... we are all judged accordingly by God the Father, not by each other...
anyone that calls someone else a bad christian, needs to reevaluate their own faith... when u point ur finger, there are 4 fingers pointing at u.

Make fun of the statement if you wish. It is still free will. The consequences of free will are no different today. It's called responsibility.

And yeah, it is too bad that God doesn't stop criminals. But as I said, there are still consequences. They too will have to answer for their deeds at some point.

Yup, it's for humans to decide what constitutes a holy scripture of words by God, and which books are a sham. And i'm sure God doesn't mind that some of his Holy Words were simply left out. There are still plenty that got in!

nobody said what they did was right.... but just because they did it, it doesnt mean anything... u can say that they were controlling, but if u read all of it, if they were put in the bible, there would be less contradiction and less disbelief... why they left it out i dont know... being dumb i guess

Tell that to the victim

so what, blaming things on God again, are we? too scared and childish put blame where it is due... ha... if God were to interfere there, he would have to interfere with every bad thing that happens... and there aint no point, cause then people would take advantage of it.

This will be my last response for tonight. It's after 1am in my country and I'm supposed to be at uni tomorrow

If it was a small, isolated incident, then no, I wouldn't expect to know the truth.

But for something like the miracles that Jesus performed where whole townships went to be healed and saw people crippled for life stand up and walk out. People who were blind since birth suddenly see. A popular teacher who was crucified, and somehow days later appeared to over 400 people at a time. You can find out those events from first hand sources - not heresay, but eye-witness accounts.

And before you say they could be lying, well, liars don't die for their lies. Early Christian leaders such as Paul and Peter were killed for claiming belief in Christ. all they had to do was say "ok, he's not true" and they would be free.

Well, this topic has turned completely off topic, and resorted to not much more than offensive bickering, so it's done.