Confusion of Thoughts are expressed through the tongues!

The Tower of our body is our head, thus the Insanity of Babel is within the mind!

Therefore, this 'Spirituality and Skepticism' board is indeed a replica of the Tower of Babel!

Thus with violence shall this Tower of Babel be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

The Tower of Babel is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of nonsense, and the hold of every foul thought, and a cage of every unclean and hateful idea.

MYSTERY, THE TOWER OF BABEL, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

AAAAAA, ok

No place to voice our opinion? No place to talk of "what if"? This board is great, in my opinion! And if a "God" would be so terrible as to stop us from achieving great things, and stop us from reaching heaven, then I say shame on him, for he is not a REAL father...

A REAL creator, pushes us, encourages us to strive for bigger and better things. If we choose to attempt the impossible, the Creator supports with what he can. After all, aren't we supposed to be his children?

IDEAS aren't bad at all. IDEAS are what got us to where we are now. It wasn't "God". We did it on our own (with a tiny amount of help maybe). "God" mearly got things started and helps us here and there when we really need it. Of course these are just MY opinions and I don't expect anyone else to believe them, but to me they make sense. And all these "Religious" books out there, are just STORIES to scare children and simple minded people into a train of thought and belief system...

Those books are the work of MAN, not "God"!!!

Loge,

You're cool and wise and all that. But, sometimes I just don't get you. At all.

Tower of Insantiy? I thought you were refering to this website.

This website’s 'Spirituality and Skepticism' board is just a mirror of the confused minds or Towers of Babbles from Atheists and Religious Zealots!

As opposed to an areligionist-theist with mongrel-quasi-religious beliefs, Loge?

Oh, there's a confused mind here all right.

No kitten!

Society is the extension of the individual, so, if society exists, it is because the individual exists!

Or as Immanuel Kant (the philosopher of Konigsberg) said: “The exterior is the reflection of the Interior” This society is a man-made society and it is also a mad-made society!

Therefore, if this society is insane, it is because we are insane!

The problem is that many people don’t realize this fact!

People in this planet are insane; meanwhile, the religious zealots declare to the four winds that people in this planet are made into the image of God. Such dimwitted statement!

And on the other hand, we have the Atheists that “intelligently” declare that there is not evidence of intelligent design in THEIR universe!

Aren’t we a KucKoo’s Klan?

It is very good, that you recognized that confused mind there!

Ah, that's a unacceptable presupposition.

One can make the choice to believe in God our not, therefore God is an unnecessary presupposition for the design or creation of universe that you and I share Loge.

The rest of your argument relies on an unnecessary presupposition so the rest of what you say is as equally suspect if not outright invalid.

Kitten?

Kittens give Morbo gass.

(And that f***ing insulting LOge.)

but that is just loge! (love it or hate it )

I think I am in just in sensitive i.e bad mood today. Time for drinks!

Babel...just keep babbeling...
Thank you Loge...but these people don't ever seem to get it.
They would rather babel than consider your teachings.

I think my favorite part of this forum is this smilie: But, its not really smiling is it? Now I'm babbling aren't I? Contagious isn't it?

"So if we decide there is no cosmologically penultimate sentience, we are deciding that humans are the top of the scale of universal and collective bio-cognition. Rationally, this is absurd. As a collective, we form something we can barely discuss. We certainly rarely experience it directly — and what of the collective of a living planet? Of all scales and moments of Life in endless universes within universes?" El Kybalion

Um... I have no idear who the "El Kybalion" is and I don't feel like using my Webkinesis, nor do I really care for that matter, but I will just respond to it anyway.


Fallacy of False Dilemma.

Just because one chooses not to make a proactive and conscious decision to believe in the supernatural, does not equal a person putting himself above an alleged god, or above all other biological entities.

Funny thing, with a belief in God, it seems that many of the religious have done that already. Assuming the mantle of supremacy above other creatures in our world and above other groups of men, like the bloody children of Abraham's religion have done.

So much for an objective standard of truth that the religious proclaim.

When El Kybalion states "Rationally, this is absurd" he is exactly right.

And his reasoning by reductio just doesn't work.

Vanitas vanitatum dixit Ecclesiastes vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas.

What is this, some kind of new fallacy? The Fallacy of Answering Back in Latin?

Anyway, Loge, you're an oddball for sure, but that's all right.

Without having to use my new wonderful brilliant power of googlekinesis, whose vanity? My vanity, or the vanity I cited above of the false dilemna fallacy of El Taco, oh Master of the Vulgate Loge?

I am saying!

"When wisdom will come into your mind, and knowledge will be pleasant to your psyche; discretion will watch over you; understanding will guard you; delivering you from the way of the wicked, from men of perverted speech, who forsake the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness, who rejoice in doing wickedness and delight in the perverseness of wickedness; men whose paths are crooked, and who are devious in their ways."

Right. I couldn't agree more.

Now, it's a matter of and of crucial difference of method in how you do so.

Wow, for a moment there I was completely lost. It took a bit but I think I understand now.
The Spirituality and Skepticism deal is just another Tower of Babel(duh, already said). So this forum is just slowing breaking down because of people mix things up, get them confused, change them for themselves, and so on. We aren't making this forum any better by some of our replies, the negative ones, so instead we should stay on the topic and not attack people. Otherwise, we get nowhere.

I'm probably completely wrong but i tried.

"Before the false dawn came over this earth, those who survived the hurricane and the storm gave praise to the Innermost, and to them appeared the heralds of the dawn."